Author Topic: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY (Read 11887925 times)

itsu · « **Reply #19365 on:** April 03, 2018, 09:28:12 PM »

Nick,

if i understand it right, in your above scope shots, yellow is the kacher signal (35Vpp @ 892Khz) using a probe nearby without its ground lead attached, just sniffing the HV.
Blue is the signal across the grenade which has a similar HV signal superimposed on it when ONLY using the probe tip without its ground lead. (118Vpp @ 892Khz).

When attaching the blue probe ground lead (to a common ground point i trust) that HV signal disappears, right?

If so, i guess thats OK as with a properly grounded scope probe it should only show the basic blue signal (15 KHz), and not anymore this also picked up RF signal.
If you now decrease the time base setting, you should be getting the grenades 15Khz AC like signal and at the same time the yellow kacher signal should show
a solid band.

Itsu

NickZ · « **Reply #19366 on:** April 04, 2018, 01:05:29 AM »

Hoppy:
Would it help to connect the scope probe negative lead that's just hanging next to the Kacher antenna, to a separate earth ground?
I'm currently using my 100X probe for the HV readings (yellow channel), three inches away from the antenna coil, with no negative lead connected,

Itsu: I don't get a grenade scope signal after the full bridge rectifier, if the scope probe negative is also on, as it kills the HV superimposed on it. Even by dropping the settings no grenade signal at the bulb with the negative probe lead connect.
I do get a signal at the wima cap. Shown below at the blue trance on channel 2.

I'm still trying to obtain something similar (both waves) to what Stalker was showing.

My current set up below, using two 12v, 7A batteries, for 24v input, and no input from the grid.
A couple of pictures of my device now, just to give you a little better idea of what I've got going on at this point.

Hoppy · « **Reply #19367 on:** April 04, 2018, 10:11:08 AM »

Quote from: NickZ on April 04, 2018, 01:05:29 AM

Hoppy:
Would it help to connect the scope probe negative lead that's just hanging next to the Kacher antenna, to a separate earth ground?
I'm currently using my 100X probe for the HV readings (yellow channel), three inches away from the antenna coil, with no negative lead connected,

Nick,

I don't know if it would help you to see what Stalker shows but as I mentioned earlier, the channel ground leads should not be connected to separate earthing points unless you are sure there is no potential difference between them.

itsu · « **Reply #19368 on:** April 04, 2018, 10:37:01 AM »

Nick,

the screenshot looks good, its the same as what you showed earlier from Stalker? etc.
Only difference is that he was switching / interrupting his kacher signal so it shows packages of HV while you have a continuous flow.
Try to reduce the blue signal time base even further to show only 1 cycle. That would zoom in more on the kacher (yellow) signal.

Not sure about what you mean with "i don't get a grenade scope signal after the full bridge rectifier, if the scope probe negative is also on, as it kills the HV superimposed on it"
As mentioned before, connecting the ground lead will probably remove the HV pickup signal from the kacher on that blue channel.
As it will be DC now (after the FWBR (plus caps??)), it will NOT show up on your blue channel as it is in AC coupling, like i also mentioned earlier, so thats normal for me.

Thanks for the pictures, looking good, but it won't show all the interconnections like a diagram would/should.

To be clear, i remember that at my setup, the grenade signal looks similar (27Khz AC sinewave like) as the inductor / wima cap signal with a slight kacher
signal superimposed on it.

Itsu

Hoppy · « **Reply #19369 on:** April 04, 2018, 11:03:58 AM »

Quote from: itsu on April 04, 2018, 10:37:01 AM

Nick,

the screenshot looks good, its the same as what you showed earlier from Stalker? etc.
Only difference is that he was switching / interrupting his kacher signal so it shows packages of HV while you have a continuous flow.

Itsu

That makes sense given what the Stalker waveforms are showing but I assumed that Nick believed that Stalker was not using a pulsed / interrupting Kacher, thus why he is trying to replicate Stalkers waveforms using his continuous waveform Kacher.

T-1000 · « **Reply #19370 on:** April 04, 2018, 12:00:13 PM »

Hi all,

When mixing frequency on high and low ranges - both frequencies should be on resonant harmonics to each other. Then you will see "fish waves" (AM modulation style) on the scope.
Just this does not make any OU condition by itself. The Tesla coil / nanopulser should be one tapping to electricity from air and ground. And I highlighted this many times but people seem to keep ignoring this fact... The order of tuning is with high voltage and high frequency causing charging effect after discharge on receiver first then grenade/bucking coils should be made and tuned to charge as capacitor on resonant harmonics from that frequency.

Cheers!

AlienGrey · « **Reply #19371 on:** April 04, 2018, 12:39:15 PM »

Quote from: T-1000 on April 04, 2018, 12:00:13 PM

Hi all,

When mixing frequency on high and low ranges - both frequencies should be on resonant harmonics to each other. Then you will see "fish waves" (AM modulation style) on the scope.
Just this does not make any OU condition by itself. The Tesla coil / nanopulser should be one tapping to electricity from air and ground. And I highlighted this many times but people seem to keep ignoring this fact... The order of tuning is with high voltage and high frequency causing charging effect after discharge on receiver first then grenade/bucking coils should be made and tuned to charge as capacitor on resonant harmonics from that frequency.

Cheers!

Hi there hope you are good, could you draw possibly the katcher waveform, to show what it should look like, it's the old saying you can take a horse to water but you cant make it drink

many thanks.

color · « **Reply #19372 on:** April 04, 2018, 03:52:00 PM »

① Coil is 12V DC plus of PSU.
The yoke plays an important role in forming a half wave on the secondary coil.
The No. 1 coil has 12VDC plus current capability
It is a dual function coil that supplies the current generated from the yoke to the bulb.

② No. 12R06 diode
If you borrow Ruslan's words
At the yoke it is said that the help of the magnetic field strengthens the half pulse.
It seems to prevent backflow as well

Installing diodes in step 3 is often seen in Romanov and other installation methods.
Ruslan does not install a diode in ③
Regardless of half-cycle pulse and diode installation configuration
Or maybe Ruslan is silent.

I accept your objection.

color · « **Reply #19373 on:** April 04, 2018, 04:01:32 PM »

① Coil is the same function.

color · « **Reply #19374 on:** April 04, 2018, 04:06:40 PM »

It is a part of a circuit which came up in a Russian cafe a while ago.
Note please.

color · « **Reply #19375 on:** April 04, 2018, 04:10:35 PM »

plus?
minus?

NickZ · « **Reply #19376 on:** April 04, 2018, 04:13:19 PM »

Quote from: Hoppy on April 04, 2018, 11:03:58 AM

That makes sense given what the Stalker waveforms are showing but I assumed that Nick believed that Stalker was not using a pulsed / interrupting Kacher, thus why he is trying to replicate Stalkers waveforms using his continuous waveform Kacher.

No, I'm not that dumb.
I've been trying to obtain a scope readings of both HV and the induction circuits, at the same time, so that I can tune and sync them both together. That is the point.
I realize that Stalker is using an interuptor Kacher signal, as being different than my simple Kacher circuit. I'm not trying to replicate his Kacher's wave form, just his way to tune both circuits.

Adrian was the guy that showed a self runner in the field, using only the simple kacher, like what I'm using, as well as the same type of TL494/Tc4420 for the induction circuit. So, that means that the simple Kacher can also be made to work for a self runner device, Alien. No need to keep repeating the same thing.
Other guys have made self runners, outputting KWs, using only a Kacher circuit, with no separate induction circuit.

I agree with T-1000, that the Kacher circuit is the key to the mystery. As there is nothing unusual about the way that the induction circuit works. It's just a standard and simple push-pull circuit. But, the interaction of the HV with the induction circuits, is what is different. And that's what needs attention, at this point.

color · « **Reply #19377 on:** April 04, 2018, 04:20:22 PM »

AG:

Some people have an easy problem, I try to solve it by letter.
I know Alpha or Omega is not Yeshua's will.

NickZ · « **Reply #19378 on:** April 04, 2018, 04:47:20 PM »

Quote from: color on April 04, 2018, 03:52:00 PM

① Coil is 12V DC plus of PSU.
The yoke plays an important role in forming a half wave on the secondary coil.
The No. 1 coil has 12VDC plus current capability
It is a dual function coil that supplies the current generated from the yoke to the bulb.

② No. 12R06 diode
If you borrow Ruslan's words
At the yoke it is said that the help of the magnetic field strengthens the half pulse.
It seems to prevent backflow as well

Installing diodes in step 3 is often seen in Romanov and other installation methods.
Ruslan does not install a diode in ③
Regardless of half-cycle pulse and diode installation configuration
Or maybe Ruslan is silent.

I accept your objection.

Color: What you have shown is the older 2014 version of Ruslan's earlier simple Kacher circuit device.
The one that apecore thinks is not just a simple kacher, but, it is. And it also worked as shown in his videos. Whether you can trust that that is was real and working version, or not, is another thing.
Below was the more recent updated 2016 version of the same thing.
Geofusion has added his own ideas to that basic design.

AlienGrey · « **Reply #19379 on:** April 04, 2018, 05:26:25 PM »

Oh for crying out loud ! that's a Tesla coil above ? IT WONT WORK like that! try rectifying it and charging a bank of capacitors and dumping it into a spark 'gap' and a coil!

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