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« Reply #9675 on: July 28, 2015, 08:10:37 PM »
  Tomtech:
  You'll notice that the bigger wattage bulbs on the Akula video are not fully lit, either. But, without using those bigger high wattage bulbs, the device will not self run, as it won't be able pull in any "extra" energy, and then just works like an low efficiency inverter, instead.  At least, that's what I think, and notice on my set up. That, there is an optimum load level, where the device works best.

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« Reply #9676 on: July 28, 2015, 09:46:03 PM »
Dear All.

I'm busy with TinMan's RT device at the moment but noticed some interest in our experiments from 2 years ago. Here's a link to the video I made at the time.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOqjTHmmumU

The internal LC arrangement consisted of two concentric Aluminium slit tubes with a suitable dielectric ( A3 Lamination pouch ) and a 600 turn 32 SWG coil on 50 mm PVC former.
This LC circuit was monitored by a 10 turn 3mm thick insulation coil and was suggesting up to 10 Kv PP resonating at 3 times approx. the input frequency. 

I gave up with this device after attempting to heat up a 30mm Dia Steel bar, which it did very well but managed to burst one of the £13.00 per unit IGBT's !! At the time our family budget was a little grim so I could not afford to replace them.

The coil still sits on the bench, a Monolith to the pursuit of free energy for all !! :)

Cheers Grum.

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« Reply #9677 on: July 29, 2015, 12:38:13 AM »
I'm currently using the


hi Tomtech29,

Try not to use the varistor i have previously removed those as those were getting heated really bad,swelling up.
The varistor rating i was using 470volts high Amps rated.

Instead of 7.1 ohms i just sticking with 5.1ohms 2 watt resistor which is the same value resistor to mosfet drain.It would be better to place a 30volts sk diode in parallel with resistor 5.1ohms to drain.
This i have not implemented during PCB circuit designing.
3Amps 1000volts diodes UF5408 is used between drain source and another for snubber.

Akula was using 600volts IGBT but i am using 1200volts IGBT which did not fail even without snubber.But the waveform looks better with snubber circuit in place like i have attached few days back.

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« Reply #9678 on: July 29, 2015, 12:46:30 AM »
:)
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so when you watch you will see that the generator is set to about 75% shorter cycle course this time uses less energy by heating of the transistor and the loss.
- of 2 amps and resonance is achieved at the expense of 12 amps so because of a good core and a thick cable on it 6mm2.
However, in the next film where an incandescent lamp 300W. with high power and power from the power supply almost very low energy consumption!
what is cool?

hi Tomtech29,

I know.But Akula is using interrupter circuit to TL494 to drive IGBT which we never once thought about it.This is the next stage of designing and testing for me.

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« Reply #9679 on: July 29, 2015, 12:49:33 AM »
  Grum:
  That was the diagram that I further corrected. As the rectified 311 volts from the inverter goes to the 28 turns yoke coil, as can be seen in the video. Not to the center tap on the yoke. There is no earth ground shown on that diagram, either. And some other things as well.

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« Reply #9680 on: July 29, 2015, 12:54:08 AM »
Dear All.

I'm busy with TinMan's RT device at the moment but noticed some interest in our experiments from 2 years ago. Here's a link to the video I made at the time.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOqjTHmmumU

The internal LC arrangement consisted of two concentric Aluminium slit tubes with a suitable dielectric ( A3 Lamination pouch ) and a 600 turn 32 SWG coil on 50 mm PVC former.
This LC circuit was monitored by a 10 turn 3mm thick insulation coil and was suggesting up to 10 Kv PP resonating at 3 times approx. the input frequency. 

I gave up with this device after attempting to heat up a 30mm Dia Steel bar, which it did very well but managed to burst one of the £13.00 per unit IGBT's !! At the time our family budget was a little grim so I could not afford to replace them.

The coil still sits on the bench, a Monolith to the pursuit of free energy for all !! :)

Cheers Grum.

hi Grumage,

May i ask if you can recall the number of windings for the outer pvc pipe which you have used in the device previously.The winding does look more complicated on the Akula circuit diagram than it looks.

I will give this a go if got the winding spec.Thanks.

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Interrupter circuit will be implemented for my pwm generator.Currently running at around 6.8% (2us pulse width) duty cycle to drive both IGBTs.

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« Reply #9681 on: July 29, 2015, 01:06:56 AM »
  Magpwr:
  The red taped inductor was 12 turns, or (twice 12 turns, possibly bifilar). The yellow taped feed back loop is also about 12 turns. Both together make up 1/2 of the number of winding on the bigger output coil, which has 48 turns, if only a single layer was used. There are no exact turn counts that I know of.  These are my observations, and how I made my big air coils. You can compare them to what you see on the video.
  And there are no correct diagrams of that device, either.  All that have been made are wrong. And that is also why it looks more complicated in the diagram than can be seen on the video.
  We did a lot of close examination of that first self runner video, back then, but could not get it all figured out, as there were too many unknowns.
 I switched over to the second Akula device, when Ruslan came out with more information on how to replicate it.

  Geo was going to connect the TL494 driver board that he made as a replication of the first Akula device driver board, to the grenade/yoke set up. But, hasn't shown it if he did do it. So, I don't know what happened with that idea.
 

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« Reply #9682 on: July 29, 2015, 01:18:57 AM »
But the waveform looks better with snubber circuit in place like i have attached few days back.

Just curious, am I the only one that has tried driving the toroid transformer with an audio amplifier?  If you want a clean sine wave, the push-pull isn't even in the same league with an audio amp.  A decent Class-D amp can deliver 600 watts at better than 90% efficiency, with less than 1% THD; no snubber required.

I got to ask, do you all think there is some magic behind using the push-pull driver?  Is it necessary to have all those harmonics in there?

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« Reply #9683 on: July 29, 2015, 01:45:44 AM »
  Dog-One:
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  "I got to ask, do you all think there is some magic behind using the push-pull driver?
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   Yes, only because up to now all the higher powered FE generators use a push-pull configuration to create a strong Magnetic Pulse, that is superimposed by the HV HF pulse from one type of HV pulser driver circuit, or another. 

  I believe that the magnetic field from the induction circuit is the main factor in the effect. As high voltage by itself won't do much work.
   If you can create a strong magnetic field with the use of your audio amp, which should be able light several hundred watts worth of bulbs as a load, than I see no problem to superimpose it, rectify the output, and send it back to the input. Simple, right?

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« Reply #9684 on: July 29, 2015, 02:38:33 AM »
Just curious, am I the only one that has tried driving the toroid transformer with an audio amplifier?  If you want a clean sine wave, the push-pull isn't even in the same league with an audio amp.  A decent Class-D amp can deliver 600 watts at better than 90% efficiency, with less than 1% THD; no snubber required.

I got to ask, do you all think there is some magic behind using the push-pull driver?  Is it necessary to have all those harmonics in there?

Good day Dog-One

Yes, you are quite correct concerning the clarity of a Sine Wave audio amp............... Zero Harmonics, only nice clean sine wave @ one frequency.

My question is:

How will a *Zero harmonic* sine wave excite a 3rd, 5th or 7th harmonic of the fundamental?

I thought the idea is the operate the *push-pull* @ a sub-harmonic of the high frequency inductor  (ie: 100:1????)............


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« Reply #9685 on: July 29, 2015, 03:03:23 AM »
   Yes, only because up to now all the higher powered FE generators use a push-pull configuration to create a strong Magnetic Pulse, that is superimposed by the HV HF pulse from one type of HV pulser driver circuit, or another. 

  I believe that the magnetic field from the induction circuit is the main factor in the effect. As high voltage by itself won't do much work.
   If you can create a strong magnetic field with the use of your audio amp, which should be able light several hundred watts worth of bulbs as a load, than I see no problem to superimpose it, rectify the output, and send it back to the input. Simple, right?

My feeling about the push-pull driver is it's a commonly used power inverter type circuit.  Many DC to DC converters operate this way.  Also, with push-pull, you effectively double the input voltage to the primary.  This is all well and good as long as you plan on taking the output of the secondary and rectifying it, since you don't really care about the harmonics--they'll all go away once rectified and filtered.

For the Ruslan device, it would seem to me you actually want a clean sine wave, since what is going through the two coils (grenade and heater coil) is AC.  We've seen this on several Ruslan scope shots.  Personally, I think Ruslan went to a lot of trouble to make sure his push-pull driver and yoke would output a clean sine wave.  I went down this road and finding the proper combination of components is hard enough, but then you toss into the mix the push-pull has to run at a specific frequency makes things ten times more difficult to get the nice sine wave you're after.  Hence my decision to try something easier.  Enter the Class-D audio amplifier...

When I use this amplifier, getting a clean sine wave running at the frequency I want is nearly child's play.  And yes, it will make a screw driver almost glow if you insert it into the air core.  There is no difficulty in getting the capacitors tuned and lighting up several 100 watt light bulbs.  I still don't know yet if things will self-run this way or not, I'm about ten days out from having my new Tesla driver boards fabricated.  I modified the ones I have about as far as I could go and hit a wall getting them to where they need to be.  The new ones are simple and should do the job just fine.

I'm hoping someone might try testing an audio amp as I have done, so I have someone to compare notes with.  From what I have seen so far, this method is by far easier and gives very consistent results.  The only large change I had to make going this way is to switch to a 48 volt power supply because most Class-D amplifiers I have tried need at the very minimum 25 volts to operate.  With this voltage one has to be a little careful rectifying it down to 12 or 5 volt to run the other logic circuits.  I suppose you could use two power supplies though--a 48 volt for the amp and a lower voltage, lower power one for the other circuits.  Anyway, it's an option and I'd like to see someone give it a go and share their opinion.

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« Reply #9686 on: July 29, 2015, 03:17:58 AM »
How will a *Zero harmonic* sine wave excite a 3rd, 5th or 7th harmonic of the fundamental?

I thought the idea is the operate the *push-pull* @ a sub-harmonic of the high frequency inductor  (ie: 100:1????)............

I'm not clear understanding what is exciting what.  I thought the impulses from the Tesla coil running at 100 times the frequency of the grenade/heater coils was providing the excitation.  Studying the complete design of Ruslan's device, I get the feeling the Tesla secondary and antenna create a condition between the grenade and heater coils that stimulate a parametric oscillation, whereby the capacitance/inductance between those two heavy wire coils is knocked out of balance.  On Ruslan's earlier device that used the nanosecond generator and coax, the grenade and heater coils are still performing the same function.

So, we can still maintain the frequency ratio with clean sine waves, but is this enough?  Is there more to it then we fully comprehend?

I hope to at least find out what doesn't work and understand why.  If there is an easier solution, I'm certainly not going to rule it out until I've tested it.

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« Reply #9687 on: July 29, 2015, 08:34:16 AM »
Hi Dog,
So you reccon to use the amplifier?  I have at home similar to this one - http://www.ebay.ie/itm/200W-12V-Mini-Hi-Fi-Amplifier-Amp-Radio-MP3-Stereo-Car-Bike-home-/330748381081?hash=item4d0223c799.  Would it be OK to try it out?

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« Reply #9688 on: July 29, 2015, 09:03:35 AM »
So you reccon to use the amplifier?  I have at home similar to this one - http://www.ebay.ie/itm/200W-12V-Mini-Hi-Fi-Amplifier-Amp-Radio-MP3-Stereo-Car-Bike-home-/330748381081?hash=item4d0223c799.  Would it be OK to try it out?

If you wouldn't mind giving it a try, I'd sure like to hear about your results.

I'm currently using this one with good success.  It's bigger than needed, so I crank it down where the distortion is practically zero.
http://store.sure-electronics.com/aa-ab31392

The first amp I used was a 300 watt Public Address amplifier and after seeing how it performed, I decided to get an amplifier dedicated for this project.  One I could potentially loop with.

It's real nice being able to just turn a volume control knob to completely control the amp draw and behavior of this device.  Trying to adjust a PWM push-pull or adding big power resistors is much more difficult.

What you will need to do though John is use all 24 turns on the primary, don't try it with just 12.  With your amplifier being only 12 volts, you probably won't get it to light up any bulbs because of the turns ratio of the toroid/yoke transformer, but you will at least be able to experiment with the tuning and possibly see the effects of the heater coil.  Hopefully you see the clean sine wave coming through your new current sense transformer.  Take note of how different this looks compared to the push-pull driver.

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« Reply #9689 on: July 29, 2015, 11:18:19 AM »
My feeling about the push-pull driver is it's a commonly used power inverter type circuit.  Many DC to DC converters operate this way.  Also, with push-pull, you effectively double the input voltage to the primary.  This is all well and good as long as you plan on taking the output of the secondary and rectifying it, since you don't really care about the harmonics--they'll all go away once rectified and filtered.

For the Ruslan device, it would seem to me you actually want a clean sine wave, since what is going through the two coils (grenade and heater coil) is AC.  We've seen this on several Ruslan scope shots.  Personally, I think Ruslan went to a lot of trouble to make sure his push-pull driver and yoke would output a clean sine wave.  I went down this road and finding the proper combination of components is hard enough, but then you toss into the mix the push-pull has to run at a specific frequency makes things ten times more difficult to get the nice sine wave you're after.  Hence my decision to try something easier.  Enter the Class-D audio amplifier...

When I use this amplifier, getting a clean sine wave running at the frequency I want is nearly child's play.  And yes, it will make a screw driver almost glow if you insert it into the air core.  There is no difficulty in getting the capacitors tuned and lighting up several 100 watt light bulbs.  I still don't know yet if things will self-run this way or not, I'm about ten days out from having my new Tesla driver boards fabricated.  I modified the ones I have about as far as I could go and hit a wall getting them to where they need to be.  The new ones are simple and should do the job just fine.

I'm hoping someone might try testing an audio amp as I have done, so I have someone to compare notes with.  From what I have seen so far, this method is by far easier and gives very consistent results.  The only large change I had to make going this way is to switch to a 48 volt power supply because most Class-D amplifiers I have tried need at the very minimum 25 volts to operate.  With this voltage one has to be a little careful rectifying it down to 12 or 5 volt to run the other logic circuits.  I suppose you could use two power supplies though--a 48 volt for the amp and a lower voltage, lower power one for the other circuits.  Anyway, it's an option and I'd like to see someone give it a go and share their opinion.

hi Dog-One,

I would suggest not to waste time on audio amplifier with 2 simple reason
1)PWM Generator can easily do eg:1Khz to 1Mhz without changing any components.We are not into audio fidelity.

2)Duty cycle can be varied from 3% to 49% as an example for PWM which can still produce sine-wave across capacitor example after 3 turns.Varying PWM give us the full control to limit the current consumption as desired.Duty cycle control also effect amplitude of the sine-wave to a desirable level.

Nothing more to talk about regarding audio amps.