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Author Topic: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY  (Read 10174457 times)

Offline Jeg

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5190 on: September 20, 2014, 03:26:54 PM »

Ruslan wrote the following:

I removed the inductor and do not want this garbage :whistle:  I have much better results without the inductor now. 


If he can give the low frequency straight to the output coil and not inductively, then the same applies to the high frequency also. Something like this...

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5191 on: September 20, 2014, 03:32:06 PM »
Here were Ruslan speaking about divice, who light two 75 light bulbs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyDaVspeeNE).
"...Блок питания -импульсник 3-6 ампер 12 вольт хватает вполне   Пропеллер от компа 12 вольт для охлождения.
Качер (не очень хорошая задумка) Бровина на частоту до 2х МГц !!! Надо подобрать по катушке в резонанс. Вот тут
пороаботайте головой   Например конкретно в этой системе 37,5 м длинна провода..."
"Power subly 3-6 amperes 12 volts is enought.
Kacher Brovina frenquency up to 2 megaherc!!! Need choose needed acording coil to resonance. ... for example in that system wire lenght is 37.5 meters [probarly he means output coil, not kacher]."
So key here is, I think, choose proper kacher for output coil. All kachers is diferent, ones resonate on 2 megaherc, others on 500 kiloherc, others on 1 megaherc and so on. Here just need trial and error way found proper kacher for output coil. Wound many secondaries, with diferent wire lenght for kacher. But wire lengh must be, I suggest, betwen 70 meters and 30 meters for 30-40 meters kapanadze style output coil.
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Hi MenofFather,

We know that it's not logical that someone use 37.5meter wire to create kapanadze.Think about it using 1 or 1.5 or 2.5 mm sq wire imagine how thick this wire would be will never look the same as shown in photo.
Maybe it's the tesla coil which may need 37.5meter depending on the pvc pipe diameter which needs around 780...1000 turns using thin wire.The length don't make sense but we need to know the estimated
turns on certain diameter pvc pipe.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5192 on: September 20, 2014, 04:05:28 PM »
Hi MenofFather,

We know that it's not logical that someone use 37.5meter wire to create kapanadze.Think about it using 1 or 1.5 or 2.5 mm sq wire imagine how thick this wire would be will never look the same as shown in photo.


2.5mm2 has 3.4mm outer diameter.

48T X 3.4mm= 16.3cm long.

It is exactly as it looks in the photo.. ;)

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5193 on: September 20, 2014, 04:29:15 PM »
2.5mm2 has 3.4mm outer diameter.

48T X 3.4mm= 16.3cm long.

It is exactly as it looks in the photo.. ;)

Can't see where you guys are getting your numbers from.  :)
2.5mm^2 should be the cross sectional area of the wire.
A wire with a cross sectional area of 2.5mm^2 has a diameter of 1.78mm, plus whatever thickness the insulation is.
Area of a circle = Pi x r^2
2.5 = Pi x r^2
sqrt(2.5/Pi) = r
r = 0.892
d = 2x r = 1.78mm

Or you can use a chart like this:
http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/awg-wire-gauge-d_731.html
All the best...




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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5194 on: September 20, 2014, 04:32:46 PM »
Can't see where you guys are getting your numbers from.  :)
2.5mm^2 should be the cross sectional area of the wire.
A wire with a cross sectional area of 2.5mm^2 has a diameter of 1.78mm, plus whatever thickness the insulation is.
Area of a circle = Pi x r^2
2.5 = Pi x r^2
sqrt(2.5/Pi) = r
r = 0.892
d = 2x r = 1.78mm

Or you can use a chart like this:
http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/awg-wire-gauge-d_731.html
All the best...

Its is exactly as you say, but you have to count the outer diameter with the insulation to calculate the length... and this is as i said 3.4mm

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5195 on: September 20, 2014, 05:19:56 PM »
If he can give the low frequency straight to the output coil and not inductively, then the same applies to the high frequency also. Something like this...

Hi Jeg. There are of course various possible configurations. What I was wondering was if Ruslan had
explained in his latest video what he is actually doing or planning on doing.
All the best...

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5196 on: September 20, 2014, 05:25:23 PM »
Its is exactly as you say, but you have to count the outer diameter with the insulation to calculate the length... and this is as i said 3.4mm

Ok, I see. So you were including an estimation of the insulation thickness when you referred to the diameter
of the wire.


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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5197 on: September 20, 2014, 06:11:58 PM »
  I've wound my Ruslan type air coil using thick wire, I don't know how thick it is exactly, probably is 2.5mm. It fits the 1 1/4" former tube to about the same width as what is shown in the images. Using the 48,48, 24, 24, 12,12 turns for the output coil, and 12, 12 turns for the input air coil. 
 
  All the coils like the Kacher secondary as well as the yoke coils, and the air coil output coil can be adjusted for best resonance by adding or removing wire turns.
 
   It would of course be nice, if we didn't have to guess about the number of coil turns, former tube size, turning caps, and voltage and current levels, that are actually needed, as we may be doing now. This info and more should be included in the schematic.  The one that Ruslan has never shown.

  Ruslan says that Akula's schematic is not totally correct. But then Ruslan does not provide us with any working diagrams of his circuit, at all.
  It may also be that the diagram that someone else made of the Ruslan circuit that we've are looking at, may also not be totally correct, besides not providing all of the information needed to replicate it.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5198 on: September 20, 2014, 06:23:59 PM »
Ok, I see. So you were including an estimation of the insulation thickness when you referred to the diameter
of the wire.

The following equation is for accuracy maniacs like void and me! It is tested of course.

By giving the meters of the cable that you decide to use and the outer diameter of the wire including  insulation, you can calculate the exact diameter of the PVC pipe that you need for a 48-48 24-24 12-12 output coil.

R=(L-(1733.28 X D))/1055.04

R, the radius of the PVC pipe or any other material in mm
L, the length of the wire in mm
D, the outer diameter of the cable including insulation in mm

Example.

Length of the wire L=33.75m / 33750mm
Outer diameter of the cable D=3.4mm

Rpvc= 26.4mm So diameter is 2X26.4mm= 52.8mm or 5.28cm

In my case I used 35cm connection cables for each coil ends so in equation for a wavelength of 33.75m I put as L=33.05 m



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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5199 on: September 20, 2014, 07:56:30 PM »
The following equation is for accuracy maniacs like void and me! It is tested of course.

By giving the meters of the cable that you decide to use and the outer diameter of the wire including  insulation, you can calculate the exact diameter of the PVC pipe that you need for a 48-48 24-24 12-12 output coil.

R=(L-(1733.28 X D))/1055.04

R, the radius of the PVC pipe or any other material in mm
L, the length of the wire in mm
D, the outer diameter of the cable including insulation in mm

Example.

Length of the wire L=33.75m / 33750mm
Outer diameter of the cable D=3.4mm

Rpvc= 26.4mm So diameter is 2X26.4mm= 52.8mm or 5.28cm

In my case I used 35cm connection cables for each coil ends so in equation for a wavelength of 33.75m I put as L=33.05 m

hi jeg,

Thanks for getting the numbers for this kacher portion of the device.
Around 33meters ...37m max of cable is required for kacher portion.

We would need to document this part so that there is no confusion
for others.2.5mm sq cable to be used on around 5.28cm diameter .

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Upon getting deeper into don smith device.
Please take note to use only white pvc pipe .This needs to be applied for Ruslan or Akula device.
Base on research there is higher capacitance noted for grey pvc pipe as compared to white pvc pipe.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5200 on: September 20, 2014, 09:01:02 PM »
hi jeg,

Thanks for getting the numbers for this kacher portion of the device.
Around 33meters ...37m max of cable is required for kacher portion.

Base on research there is higher capacitance noted for grey pvc pipe as compared to white pvc pipe.

Thanks for this PVC info. I'll search for it!
The above numbers are for the bifi output coil calculation and not for katcher. It is the same core though

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5201 on: September 21, 2014, 03:46:54 PM »


The way Akula explained in his latest video was - he showed bit about finding resonant frequency in coil as antenna then attached ground (his scope is grounded too) and showed how resonant frequency changed. Then he took lower frequency harmonics which was in kHz range and this was a resonant frequency for induction heater circuit (17-35kHz) and using spikes with a frequency of Tesla coil on 1/3rd resonant frequency of output bifilar coil with ground. All ties up with with sine wave on kHz range with spikes on peaks...

Is it possible to attach the link of this specific akula's video please?

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« Reply #5202 on: September 21, 2014, 03:58:46 PM »
Is it possible to attach the link of this specific akula's video please?

I think this is the Akula video that was being referred to, in regards to Akula's second self runner:
"Installation №2"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rALEpvBQig

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5203 on: September 21, 2014, 04:37:32 PM »
I think this is the Akula video that was being referred to, in regards to Akula's second self runner:
"Installation №2"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rALEpvBQig

Hi,

I am unable to co-relate thick tesla coil winding with this circuit diagram in the video.

Do anyone know where tesla coil with thick wire belong to if compared with winding shown in circuit diagram.
There isn't a clear indication which is the tesla coil in the drawing.
Although it seems obvious this tesla coil layer need to be the first layer,if i am right to mention.
This thick tesla coil was also seen as standing pvc pipe in older video before the winding is completed.

Can anyone please advise  where is this thick  tesla coil in circuit diagram as seen in this video.

We need fit all the missing puzzle together with no doubts before even thinking of replication.

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In the meantime i am waiting for expensive capacitor and air coil to arrive for don smith.
Valuable time is lost yet again due to long delivery time.



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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5204 on: September 21, 2014, 04:56:29 PM »
  The big white coil is not what is being used in the schematic, or on the device.
The tesla coil is the one with the magnet wire, going to the ferrite rod, then to the thick coil antenna. Tesla coil primary is the 5 to 6 turn thick primary with the oscillator connection in the center of it.
 I hope that was what you were wondering about.

  Ruslan and Akula are now using very different set ups.  I would personally go with Ruslan's way of doing it, as it's simpler, and still can produce about 2.3kw.
 The difficult part of their circuitry is the duty cycle/frequency modulator circuits.
I wish that that those units could just be purchased, instead.