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Hoppy · « **Reply #6825 on:** November 14, 2014, 09:16:09 AM »

Quote from: NickZ on November 14, 2014, 12:12:08 AM

Nothing special? But, it works, and Ruslan is not an experienced electronics hobbyist. Or is he? AND, in such a short time? Think about it...
Just my observation.

But does it really work?? That's what we are trying to establish.

Hoppy · « **Reply #6826 on:** November 14, 2014, 09:32:02 AM »

Quote from: NickZ on November 13, 2014, 11:35:56 PM

"No need to import nowadays, plenty of Chinese businesses over here! Hopefully, it will stay smoke free for a while".
end quote.

I wish that I could say the same, as I can't even get the new fets I need to continue on, here in C.R. But, they are ordered and will be here, any month now, coming by turtle shipping, from China.

Reminds me of the first page of this thread, where two computer PSU were fried, before finding one that finally worked. If I remember correctly, as it's been a while now.
I wonder if the PC type of PSU might work for us, as well. But, I wouldn't want to see them go up in smoke though.

Nick,

Its strange that you have to wait so long for imported components. I've ordered components direct from China on ebay and received them within one week, sometimes received quicker than components posted to me in the UK!

skywalker66 · « **Reply #6827 on:** November 14, 2014, 10:39:11 AM »

Quote from: Hoppy on November 13, 2014, 02:53:03 PM

Today I have been trying to produce the flashing lights effect that we see in URFA's videos. I started by taking the Kacher 24V supply from what he calls the synchronisation point 'B' (shown on a previously posted schematic from URFA) via a series connected 148uH choke. This did not appear to show any effect, so I removed the 470uF electrolytic cap that I had on the output of the PWM / push-pull supply filter, leaving 470nF cap across the output. This started to show a little response as I moved my hand across the antenna and saw the lights varying a little in brightness. It was not until I started altering the frequency of the Kacher with a ferrite rod insert that I saw the maximum effect and this was with the kacher operating at around 950KHz, where the effect peaked. The effect was not as great as seen on URFA's video but the Kacher was having a pronounced effect on the brightness of the bulbs. My grenade coil frequency 1/4 wave is as previously reported - 1.316MHz and PWM is running at 21.9KHz. I don't think that I have so far optimised the value of the series choke for max effect. I suspect that URFA used one of his green high perm toroids for his choke. I have noticed that the amplitude of the Kacher waveform increases a little when the device is connected to my domestic earth. My power supply is isolated from earth.

Hi Hoppy and all !
I'm glad to see you making progress.
It seems URFA was right about synchronization after all.
As I remarked so far there was 3 ways to make that synchronization between kacher and push-pull
1. Akula way - he use complex electronics to sync kacher to push-pull
2. Ruslan way - he seems not use explicit sync but by choosing right frequencies they manage to lock (push-pull as a precise subharmonic of kacher)
3. URFA way - he sync by ripple of common 24V supply. He use weak decoupling of kacher and push-pull suplies.

1 & 3 may as well use subharmonic of kacher for push-pull.
21.9KHz is not quite a subharmonic of 950KHz

Hoppy, I suspect you will find better effect at twice of 950MHz (1.9MHz), but it's just a thought.
For more easy way to search for proper kacher frequency, it is better during tests to remove that coil antenna and use a curved aluminum plate as kacher antenna and bring closer or remove slowly near the grenade, altering in this way kacher frequency.

Also you may see how I thought an efficient and easy way to synchronize kacher to push pull in attached schematic. If you consider worthy, you may go a try.

All the best !

Hoppy · « **Reply #6828 on:** November 14, 2014, 11:12:18 AM »

Quote from: skywalker66 on November 14, 2014, 10:39:11 AM

Hi Hoppy and all !
I'm glad to see you making progress.
It seems URFA was right about synchronization after all.
As I remarked so far there was 3 ways to make that synchronization between kacher and push-pull
1. Akula way - he use complex electronics to sync kacher to push-pull
2. Ruslan way - he seems not use explicit sync but by choosing right frequencies they manage to lock (push-pull as a precise subharmonic of kacher)
3. URFA way - he sync by ripple of common 24V supply. He use weak decoupling of kacher and push-pull suplies.

1 & 3 may as well use subharmonic of kacher for push-pull.
21.9KHz is not quite a subharmonic of 950KHz

Hoppy, I suspect you will find better effect at twice of 950MHz (1.9MHz), but it's just a thought.
For more easy way to search for proper kacher frequency, it is better during tests to remove that coil antenna and use a curved aluminum plate as kacher antenna and bring closer or remove slowly near the grenade, altering in this way kacher frequency.

Also you may see how I thought an efficient and easy way to synchronize kacher to push pull in attached schematic. If you consider worthy, you may go a try.

All the best !

Thanks for your comments Skywalker. Your circuit looks very feasible and I will certainly try it at some stage.

I'm still wondering how URFA gets such a lively spark from his Kacher. I hope that he can comment on this.

skywalker66 · « **Reply #6829 on:** November 14, 2014, 11:32:28 AM »

Hi Hoppy!

You say "My grenade coil frequency 1/4 wave is as previously reported - 1.316MHz"
Can ask you, this freq you reported is find out prior winding inductor over grenade or after ? and what method do you use for find out it?

Related to URFA setup, observe in attached picture of his kacher, he use a 2200uF/63V electrolytic cap + 2 more non-polarized caps (yellow caps) for strong decoupling effect of kacher.

Hoppy · « **Reply #6830 on:** November 14, 2014, 12:14:07 PM »

Quote from: skywalker66 on November 14, 2014, 11:32:28 AM

Hi Hoppy!

You say "My grenade coil frequency 1/4 wave is as previously reported - 1.316MHz"
Can ask you, this freq you reported is find out prior winding inductor over grenade or after ? and what method do you use for find out it?

Related to URFA setup, observe in attached picture of his kacher, he use a 2200uF/63V electrolytic cap + 2 more non-polarized caps (yellow caps) for strong decoupling effect of kacher.

I still have strong decoupling on my Kacher, with 1000uF and 1uF.

The frequency was determined with the inductor wound over the grenade. It was a deduction based on a strong amplitude peak on the grenade winding at a PWM frequency of 21.9KHz, when reading 1.316MHz across my inductor caps at max signal amplitude. My signal genny only goes up to 5MHz and I saw no strong resonance below 5MHz when I originally scanned it before winding on the inductor, so I'm assuming my grenade is resonating at a natural frequency of around 5.26MHz.

skywalker66 · « **Reply #6831 on:** November 14, 2014, 01:30:55 PM »

Quote from: Hoppy on November 14, 2014, 12:14:07 PM

The frequency was determined with the inductor wound over the grenade. It was a deduction based on a strong amplitude peak on the grenade winding at a PWM frequency of 21.9KHz, when reading 1.316MHz across my inductor caps at max signal amplitude. My signal genny only goes up to 5MHz and I saw no strong resonance below 5MHz when I originally scanned it before winding on the inductor, so I'm assuming my grenade is resonating at a natural frequency of around 5.26MHz.

Let me see if I get it straight. You put 21.9khz from your FG on inductor and get 1.316MHz on grenade as response ? Maybe some sort of ringing effect? Your method is quite unclear for me.

Jeg · « **Reply #6832 on:** November 14, 2014, 01:54:51 PM »

Quote from: Hoppy on November 14, 2014, 12:14:07 PM

I still have strong decoupling on my Kacher, with 1000uF and 1uF.

My signal genny only goes up to 5MHz and I saw no strong resonance below 5MHz when I originally scanned it before winding on the inductor, so I'm assuming my grenade is resonating at a natural frequency of around 5.26MHz.

Hi Hoppy, what is the length of your grenade and 28T yoke secondary plus your connection cable lengths?
From this length you will see if your 1.3Mhz freq is related or not. It is not a big deal if you miss a meter though.

Watch the attached waveform. High perm toroid, one turn 2.5mm2 piece of cable, in series with current line of 3T, between capacitor and inductor. Toroid's secondary where this waveform is taken is 30Turns of 0.6mm magnet wire. What do you say for sync?

br549 · « **Reply #6833 on:** November 14, 2014, 08:47:06 PM »

Hi All:
I have finished winding my gernade coil, except for the bifilar coil, and was wondering if anyone had experience with using 2 layers of smaller insulated wire for the bifilar (for example #20 Awg. stranded wire), instead of three layers of the larger wire. I would like to finish my coil so I can move to the next step, but am sort - of bound up on the issue (My lack of experience in this are

).
Thank You ahead of time, and have a great day.

itsu · « **Reply #6834 on:** November 14, 2014, 08:57:37 PM »

Quote from: br549 on November 14, 2014, 08:47:06 PM

Hi All:
I have finished winding my gernade coil, except for the bifilar coil, and was wondering if anyone had experience with using 2 layers of smaller insulated wire for the bifilar (for example #20 Awg. stranded wire), instead of three layers of the larger wire. I would like to finish my coil so I can move to the next step, but am sort - of bound up on the issue (My lack of experience in this are ).
Thank You ahead of time, and have a great day.

Hi BR549,

nice idea of using smaller wire, i guess to get to the assumed 18.75m length in 2 layers.
The awg 20 is very small, like 0.8mm which presently is being adviced for the secondary on the kacher, but no, i have no experience with it.
Personally i would like to stick as close as possible to the assumed parts/wires of the Ruslan device for now.

Regards Itsu

itsu · « **Reply #6835 on:** November 14, 2014, 10:13:52 PM »

Trying to tune the kacher to the Grenades resonance frequency by varying the kacher frequency via a ferrite rod
and monitoring the grenade coil output (everything connected).

It shows a nice peak around 1.68MHz, so my guess is that that is the resonance frequency of my Grenade with everything connected (ground).
The same methode for the bifilar inductor shows NO peak, so i think i need to tune (lengthen or shorten) this coil.
My goal would be to have a peak on the both coils on the same frequency, then divide this frequency by 60 (or 50) to adjust the TL494 PWM
frequency to this.

Video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQrXo-htBQ4&feature=youtu.be

Regards Itsu

Hoppy · « **Reply #6836 on:** November 14, 2014, 11:41:33 PM »

Quote from: skywalker66 on November 14, 2014, 01:30:55 PM

Let me see if I get it straight. You put 21.9khz from your FG on inductor and get 1.316MHz on grenade as response ? Maybe some sort of ringing effect? Your method is quite unclear for me.

No. When I originally manually scanned my grenade coil without inductor coil, I could find no resonance under 5MHz, which is the maximum frequency for my FG. After I wound the inductor coil onto the grenade, I found that with around 480nF series capacitance in the inductor / 3W yoke circuit, I had a peak amplitude at 1.316MHz and brightest bulb when my PWM frequency was 21.9KHz. When I set the Kacher frequency to 1.316MHz, I then noticed the pulsing effect on the lamp that I reported. I also got the highest amplitude and sharpest mustache waveform with this tuning. I basically adjusted my PWM frequency for various inductor cap values until I found the best response. Not perhaps the best approach but nonetheless one way of tuning. I get poor grenade output with higher value caps, so I cannot understand how some experimenters are getting good performance by tuning with caps of 1uF and higher.

Hoppy · « **Reply #6837 on:** November 14, 2014, 11:52:28 PM »

Quote from: itsu on November 14, 2014, 10:13:52 PM

Trying to tune the kacher to the Grenades resonance frequency by varying the kacher frequency via a ferrite rod
and monitoring the grenade coil output (everything connected).

It shows a nice peak around 1.68MHz, so my guess is that that is the resonance frequency of my Grenade with everything connected (ground).
The same methode for the bifilar inductor shows NO peak, so i think i need to tune (lengthen or shorten) this coil.
My goal would be to have a peak on the both coils on the same frequency, then divide this frequency by 60 (or 50) to adjust the TL494 PWM
frequency to this.

Video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQrXo-htBQ4&feature=youtu.be

Regards Itsu

Hi Itsu,

This looks like a good way of tuning. I shall try your approach.

Regards
Hoppy

John.K1 · « **Reply #6838 on:** November 15, 2014, 12:12:41 AM »

Hi Itsu,
Thanks for your video. Interesting idea tuning by ferrite bar.

I want to try to change my antenna it in to the Tesla torus style. I have made a torus from hoover's hose, unfortunately I found the aluminium tape I have is not a real aluminium

. Have to go to the shop tomorrow to get some.

The next thing, what mess my frequency is connection of the grounding cable. In my case around 11 meters of ground wire. I took two cooper plates and isolated them between by kitchen foil. Such a primitive capacitor, just to get physical disconnection but close enough to suck some electrons from or to the wire

Than I performed a test. I set my device to lit the bulb. When I connect the ground straight on the bulb-it dies. When I connected one plate to bulb and other to the ground, the light intensity increased. I migh to try maybe Barnosa&Lela style by wrapping ground wire around the insulated grenade coil wire. Speaking just about the wave length resonance -the grenade doesn't change, because here is no physical continuity. So I do not need to think how to re- tune the inductor. And the change of the LC resonance doesn't bother me. As Ruslan said- Forget to search LC resonances- there is only one and it is three turns on the TV yoke."

Itsu, btw, your three turns on your yoke looks very close to hat 26 or 28 or what ever number of turns you have. By Ruslan and Akula there should be some bigger gap.

NickZ · « **Reply #6839 on:** November 15, 2014, 12:25:56 AM »

Itsu:
Thanks for showing us your current set up, which will hopefully work (in time), as good as it looks. Your work is the best replication I've seen yet. Best of luck.

If you remember the GeoFusion MRG tests, the bigger output air coils could also be tuned by inserting pieces of ferrite into the former tube, but not a whole rod, as smaller pieces can be separated for best effect, and a rod can't. Also a rod does not act the same by just sliding it in and out of the tube, as the separated pieces of ferrite can.
I also tune my yoke frequencies, by placing magnetite (not ferrite), on the yoke core. You might give that a try.
Even though Ruslan didn't use any ferrite rod, pieces, or magnetite.
I found that I could light 7 100 bulbs, or more, using that method. But, not so without doing that.
Also, for me, placing ferrite into the Kacher tube only could decreased the output frequency, but could not increase it. At least that is what I found.
Other Exciters that I made (and I built many), did give more light at the bulbs by placing ferrite rods, inside the former tube. But, not with this type of Kacher set up.

I will also be tuning and testing the Kacher/grenade combo in a couple of days, as I ordered some more transistors from RadioShack here in C.R., although not the recommended ones, as they don't carry them, or the right fets, either. Hopefully the fets I ordered from China will not take too long.

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