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Re: quentron.com
« Reply #2835 on: July 14, 2014, 09:20:24 AM »
MarkE,

Does a reversible chemical reaction proceed in both directions?

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Does a reversible chemical reaction proceed in both directions?  Can you answer this question or not!

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« Reply #2836 on: July 14, 2014, 09:30:06 AM »
Shout, shake, spam, do whatever you like to do the trolling that you do so well.  You cannot save profitis from the fact that from the time the reaction starts, it drives forward until it reaches equilibrium.  Once at equilibrium it does not drive net backwards:  the forward and reverse rates are the same.  It did not drive net backwards on the way to equilibrium either.  Zoom the camera back and what you have at T0 is a set of reactants and what you have later are a bunch of reaction products and absent input of external energy:  greater entropy.  The system has run down and there is nothing that you can do about it without adding energy. 

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« Reply #2837 on: July 14, 2014, 10:32:39 AM »
Shout, shake, spam, do whatever you like to do the trolling that you do so well.  You cannot save profitis from the fact that from the time the reaction starts, it drives forward until it reaches equilibrium.  Once at equilibrium it does not drive net backwards:  the forward and reverse rates are the same.  It did not drive net backwards on the way to equilibrium either.  Zoom the camera back and what you have at T0 is a set of reactants and what you have later are a bunch of reaction products and absent input of external energy:  greater entropy.  The system has run down and there is nothing that you can do about it without adding energy.

By simply pouring a granular mixture we can watch it separate into its components with no effort on our part. This spontaneous form of pattern formation is a natural example of what physicists call “symmetry breaking” and is very simple to demonstrate in a kitchen.  JS commenting on this video wisely says, "It seems the 'more organized' state is the one with the higher entropy".    Reference:  Spontaneous Stratification  (first and second snapshot of the video and comment below)

Laminar flow has the interesting property of reversibility.  In this video, physicists demonstrate how flow between concentric cylinders can be reversed such that the initial fluid state is obtained (to within the limits of molecular diffusion, of course!)  Reference:  Demonstration of the reversibility of laminar flow (third snapshot of the video below)

Like I said MarkE, Profitis' electrochemical process can stand on it's own under the right conditions.  There is nothing forbidding this from happening!

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« Reply #2838 on: July 14, 2014, 11:15:15 AM »
LOL!  Enron style accounting is amazing stuff.

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« Reply #2839 on: July 14, 2014, 01:50:10 PM »
LOL!  Enron style accounting is amazing stuff.

Yes, a pure natural system based on the 'ultimate order' of entropy without any human intelligence behind it performing better than Enron's accounting style is amazing stuff!  According to Enron's accounting style, things go from an ordered state to a disordered state, which is the complete opposite of a pure natural system of entropy, LOL!  Enron is the one doing the mixing while the pure natural system is separating the mix into it's components!

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« Reply #2840 on: July 15, 2014, 12:25:51 AM »
LOL!  Learn to count.  Oh, that's right you have struggles somewhere between 3 and 4.

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« Reply #2841 on: July 15, 2014, 11:48:16 AM »
LOL!  Learn to count.  Oh, that's right you have struggles somewhere between 3 and 4.

You need to learn how to count by weight!   It's fast, easy and a highly accurate method of counting!  It's an art of counting without counting (i'm sure you will struggle with this concept also, lol).

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« Reply #2842 on: July 15, 2014, 12:28:50 PM »
You need to learn how to count by weight!   It's fast, easy and a highly accurate method of counting!  It's an art of counting without counting (i'm sure you will struggle with this concept also, lol).

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Dude:  Weight is not energy.

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« Reply #2843 on: July 15, 2014, 10:45:03 PM »
Dude:  Weight is not energy.

Where did I ever say weight is energy, LOL?

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« Reply #2844 on: July 16, 2014, 02:08:12 AM »
Are you lost ... yet again?

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« Reply #2845 on: July 16, 2014, 02:40:38 AM »
Are you lost ... yet again?

Another psychological projection of yourself.  It is you who is lost and way out in left field.  I'm not even sure if you can be found anywhere near the ballpark.  I'll ask again, where did I ever say weight is energy?

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« Reply #2846 on: July 16, 2014, 05:33:19 AM »
Another psychological projection of yourself.  It is you who is lost and way out in left field.  I'm not even sure if you can be found anywhere near the ballpark.  I'll ask again, where did I ever say weight is energy?

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Trolling, trolling down the river.

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« Reply #2847 on: July 16, 2014, 12:18:49 PM »
Trolling, trolling down the river.

It is you who is trolling, trolling down the river and not me.  Where did I say weight is energy as you wrongly and falsely asserted?  You're nothing more than a forum clown trying to misdirect others!

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« Reply #2848 on: July 16, 2014, 12:45:46 PM »
You are so lost.

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« Reply #2849 on: July 19, 2014, 06:29:16 PM »
Quote from: profitis
Don't underestimate chinese research pomodoro,they have a coupla trillion dollars loose change lying around
This is kind of interesting.  Research in Chinese journals is often considered of low quality.  There are a lot of reasons, poor controls - that is it's exceptionally unlikely to get caught, political pressure and high competition, high value of success and low cost of failure.  The example that often gets cited is in acupuncture trials Chinese journals have a 100% success rate.  In American journals they have close to 0%.  Acupuncture is only slightly removed from fantasy in terms of mechanism.  So it's true likelihood should be closer to that of the American journals but for some reason Chinese journals just can't manage to show no effect.