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Author Topic: Seeking funding for potential over unity device.  (Read 103089 times)

z.monkey

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Re: Seeking funding for potential over unity device.
« Reply #45 on: March 15, 2011, 03:08:31 AM »
but a system putting out 2.5 kwh will need nothing more for show than a serious load with modest input. Such a system will be self-explanatory with no "testing" needed.
Been trying to do this for a couple of decades...  It'll sell itself...
Never been closer, yet so far away...

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Re: Seeking funding for potential over unity device.
« Reply #46 on: March 15, 2011, 04:10:44 AM »
Been trying to do this for a couple of decades...  It'll sell itself...
Never been closer, yet so far away...

I'm almost done with the bench model and getting ready to start a more advanced model using another dead alternator (ASE trained master mechanic, notice a pattern yet?..lol) . Just got the shaft turned today. There's a middle school with a shop class like 10 min walk from me, but the teacher is so busy it's hard to catch him with a few mins to spare to help me. Once I have the armature bored out to fit the new shaft, it's just a matter or balancing and mounting everything.

The bench model is the exact same principals as the more advanced model, but the bench model is more open and in effect a "blown up" view for everyone to study. Once I have funding for future work, I will release the design for free. But until then I can't risk someone else getting MY funding using MY design. That's exactly why I'm not telling anyone too much about it.

I've also removed the internal protection from some lithium ion cells to be the first to test the effects of negative energy on them. As you can see wrapped in electric tape.

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc303/babygirl8181980/S1030689.jpg
« Last Edit: March 15, 2011, 11:56:21 AM by questioneverything »

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Re: Seeking funding for potential over unity device.
« Reply #47 on: March 15, 2011, 10:02:38 AM »
I tried to upload a pic, but it keeps saying it's to big, so I shrink it and it says it's still too big.
If you resize your pictures they will upload with no problems.  This is 640x480...

That is a lot of magnet wire.  I see a custom stator.  Coils look nice...

There was a cool picture here, but closed mindedness made me take it down...
« Last Edit: March 15, 2011, 11:24:55 AM by z.monkey »

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Re: Seeking funding for potential over unity device.
« Reply #48 on: March 15, 2011, 10:11:58 AM »
If you resize your pictures they will upload with no problems.  This is 640x480...

I tried resizing, and even said so in my post. The uploader said max size was 2.6mb, so I resized to 2mb and tried again. That time it said that the max size was 500kb. It kept changing the max size to make it smaller and smaller and smaller, so I gave up and posted a link to my private photobucket instead.

And I don't appreciate a reposting of MY pic. It is MY pic and only I should be posting or reposting it. I did NOT give you permission. Did it even cross your mind I might have had second thought about direct posting? That posting publicly I loose rights to the image? Rights I'd rather keep which is why I gave up and posted a link instead.

But you didn't bother to ask did you?

Taking liberties with other peoples property is EXACT why I get so defensive about my work. I am now deleting the link and I DEMAND the picture be removed immediately!

Thank you for proving me right about human nature. This is what I get for thinking I could trust people here. I get stabbed in the back and my right to my own property removed.

And I don't care if you had good intentions, your actions had negative ramification on my rights. Just cause someone mentions using a forum as proof of concept and creation does NOT mean it's something I wanted to do or happen.

What is wrong with you people?!? Do you seriously not understand how far I am willing to go to protect my work?!? I have a carton of thermite I keep ready to destroy the device if I so much as smell deception!!!

Is it really so god dam hard to just ask first?!? If you had asked I more than likely would have said yes. But you had to take liberties with something thats NOT YOURS!!!!!!!

It took me 12 years to get this far on the design cause EVERYONE keeps fucking me over and I have to destroy what I had to be able to afford to move after being screwed over. And I'm not trying to place blame on others for my actions, I have PROOF other people are the problem.

I TRUST NO ONE!!!!!
« Last Edit: March 15, 2011, 10:49:37 AM by questioneverything »

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Re: Seeking funding for potential over unity device.
« Reply #49 on: March 15, 2011, 10:38:19 AM »
Its just a picture...

Forgiveness is easier than permission...

If you post it on teh interwebs its public, anyone can grab it.  Not a big deal.  Its not like its a proprietary secret.  Look, you need to get comfortable with this whole public exposure thing.  Open source is, well, you know, like being naked in public.  After a while you just get used to it.  Ain't no thang...

I post everything, especially failures, because you can get excellent feedback, and that hastens the development process.  Hastening the development process speeds up your learning curve, and helps you get a working process faster.

You quoted Einstein earlier.  He also did something like this, blogging I mean.  He published white papers.  He was one of the only early scientists that would publish failures because he wanted to prevent others from making the mistakes that he had already encountered.  Do you see?  Einstein there acting in a selfless way, trying to prevent others from making the mistakes that he already made.  That's Oneness... That's Unity...  That's the Stuff that can fix this planet...

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Re: Seeking funding for potential over unity device.
« Reply #50 on: March 15, 2011, 10:58:45 AM »
Its just a picture...

Forgiveness is easier than permission...

If you post it on teh interwebs its public, anyone can grab it.  Not a big deal.  Its not like its a proprietary secret.  Look, you need to get comfortable with this whole public exposure thing.  Open source is, well, you know, like being naked in public.  After a while you just get used to it.  Ain't no thang...

I post everything, especially failures, because you can get excellent feedback, and that hastens the development process.  Hastening the development process speeds up your learning curve, and helps you get a working process faster.

You quoted Einstein earlier.  He also did something like this, blogging I mean.  He published white papers.  He was one of the only early scientists that would publish failures because he wanted to prevent others from making the mistakes that he had already encountered.  Do you see?  Einstein there acting in a selfless way, trying to prevent others from making the mistakes that he already made.  That's Oneness... That's Unity...  That's the Stuff that can fix this planet...

Oh really now?!? It would have taken a couple mins to IM me and ask and avoid this whole waste of time.

Just cause someone mentions open source does NOT mean I am ready to release it openly. I don't mind people knowing about the pic or seeing it, but you violated all rights I had to the pic when you took it from a private account and posted in a public context. It's not about the pic as much as people like you taking liberties WITHOUT PERMISSION when it takes far less effort to simply ask.

Get that Eragon quote out of your head. IT'S A DAM MOVIE!!! "It's better to ask forgiveness than permission" does NOT apply to the real world. Take a smokers cigarette without asking and see what happens.


I don't need feedback on the design because I've already built a small proof of concept model several years ago that worked perfectly, even if it only lasted 30 seconds before mechanical failure from an old bearing. I wouldn't be like I am if I didn't have a reason. I did NOT want to have to say that in public manner because it focus attention on me that I do NOT want. It makes me look like a moron to claim something no one has proven yet, even if it does work.

I don't mind going open source, but I will do it WHEN I'M DAM GOOD AND READY!!!!!

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Re: Seeking funding for potential over unity device.
« Reply #51 on: March 15, 2011, 11:03:26 AM »
What is wrong with you people?!? Do you seriously not understand how far I am willing to go to protect my work?!? I have a carton of thermite I keep ready to destroy the device if I so much as smell deception!!!
I put a couple of decades into my work so far.  It doesn't help humanity if its a secret.  It might as well be locked up in a vault at the bottom of a nuclear bunker if you can't share.  I used to be like this, really.  But I realized that the effort I was making is more beneficial than the end product.  Plus I've built some cool stuff, and wanted to show it off...

Get naked (open source) dude...

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Re: Seeking funding for potential over unity device.
« Reply #52 on: March 15, 2011, 11:05:33 AM »
I put a couple of decades into my work so far.  It doesn't help humanity if its a secret.  It might as well be locked up in a vault at the bottom of a nuclear bunker if you can't share.  I used to be like this, really.  But I realized that the effort I was making is more beneficial than the end product.  Plus I've built some cool stuff, and wanted to show it off...

Get naked dude...

How many time do I have to say it before you get it through your thick skull?!?

I will go open source when I'm dam good and ready!!! This means when I have protection on it. Just cause I give the design away does NOT mean I'm willing to give away rights to that design. This design is going to prove every member of my family wrong, and show I'm the only good thing that came from my family. It will get me the funding to resume Nikola Tesla's work.

I have MUCH bigger plans than your obviously puny mind can see. You want this 1 design open source, but doing so could cost mankind an entire welth of knowledge when I can't afford to further the research or take over where Tesla left off. Giving away the 1 design will destroy the big picture, which you can't see or you wouldn't have violated me!!!

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Re: Seeking funding for potential over unity device.
« Reply #53 on: March 15, 2011, 11:08:37 AM »
How many time do I have to say it before you get it through your thick skull?!?
Yes, Monkey Skull, very thick, armored in fact...

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Re: Seeking funding for potential over unity device.
« Reply #54 on: March 15, 2011, 11:11:45 AM »
Yes, Monkey Skull, very thick, armored in fact...

At least you admit it.

1 more violation against me, my work, or my property and you can rest assured NO ONE here will EVER see the finished model.

And by here I mean earth. I will keep it to myself and be a selfish little bitch, just like the rest of the world.

Open source does not require it to be immediate. Ubuntu 11.04 is open source, but their not releasing it till it's done and protected either.

You have 2 hours to remove the pic, or I will consider it another violation against me and YOU WILL COST EVERYONE DEARLY!!!

Take it as lightly as you wish, but I have no need to validate myself through others. I'd just as soon keep it to myself and let the rest of you fight over the price of oil.

Think I'm bluffing? I have 11 other projects that can get funding that have nothing to do with OU, and would be easier.

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Re: Seeking funding for potential over unity device.
« Reply #55 on: March 15, 2011, 11:24:03 AM »
OKz, deleting pirated picture...
Sorry to be usurping your rights...
Wish U were open minded, and naked on teh interwebs...

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=9220.0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2anE5camdaI

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Re: Seeking funding for potential over unity device.
« Reply #56 on: March 15, 2011, 11:33:49 AM »
OKz, deleting pirated picture...
Sorry to be usurping your rights...
Wish U were open minded, and naked on teh interwebs...

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=9220.0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2anE5camdaI

I am very open to it, just not yet. Writers, programmers, and artists all never show their work until it's done. It will be open source...in time. Something as big as OU is not something I'm willing to give up rights to. I could care less about the design, it's the rights and credit I am after. Without them I can't get the funding needed to proceed with even greater work.

I'm sorry to be such an ass, but through my entire life I have learned 1 truth that applies to EVERYONE. "Give them an inch, and they'll take a mile." I'm not willing to give that inch...yet.

I was going to reword my other posts to make it so this never happened to the casual viewer, but I saw you called me closed minded just because I wish to preserve my rights to the design. The posts stay up. If it's closed minded to see the big picture when others can't, then I guess I am.

If I were against open source, why the hell would I post, FOR FREE, an alternator to motor conversion that can save people thousands, when other people sell it for $40 and more a pop?

I want YOU off this thread. You are a threat to everyones rights and credits. It's either you go, or I go, and my work is a LOT more important than you, and this is most certainly not the only OU place on the web.

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Re: Seeking funding for potential over unity device.
« Reply #57 on: March 15, 2011, 11:37:21 AM »
SEE QE
The Z gets naked all the time around here!
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Re: Seeking funding for potential over unity device.
« Reply #58 on: March 15, 2011, 11:42:44 AM »
I'm not 100% sure, but I think for funding this forum is the wrong place. Many people here do not own a company or have enough money to invest.
Also I want to remind you that if you really want go open source after 'protecting' your rights no one will care about your rights anyway. The chinese, the americans, the russians, everyone in the world will replicate your device and don't care about your rights anymore since it's "open source anyways". Even if it was not open source but easy enough to replicate they would steal it. Other countries, other customs.

Regardless of what you choose you will not be a winner and I have myself resigned to the fact that if I ever discovered an exotic effect myself I couldn't gain any profit of it. The only positive side effect is the thought having participated in creating a better world with more freedom for the individual. Of course this feedback may be not enough to let inventors release their hard work. Unfortunately we can do nothing about it and so the invention will disappear again (as always).

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Re: Seeking funding for potential over unity device.
« Reply #59 on: March 15, 2011, 11:44:25 AM »
I want YOU off this thread. You are a threat to everyones rights and credits. It's either you go, or I go, and my work is a LOT more important than you, and this is most certainly not the only OU place on the web.
I'll just go back over to the metal shop, and shred some metal, naked...