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timallard

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Re: water holding charg
« Reply #30 on: October 02, 2009, 12:25:01 PM »
A lot of UV light gets used in sewage treatment these days ( hint , hint ) it might turn bio fuel into hydrogen and co2 gas ;) not sure ;) .

I work with the treatment plants here , and have seen them remove all sorts of contaminants , the cell in my vid attempts to charge oxygen past o3 that's what you need to smash things ;)

will have a read of your link is it about 104 degree angle ?

Robbo

The UV is to kill pathogens but it's pretty high freq so might be useful, somewhat same idea, my strategy is just having it pass through an envelope of a magnetic field to shake things up that turns it into a plasma ...

For the biodiesel you use secondary effluent, water & dissolved solids and the biota eat that to get squeezed, contaminants and all, it's too rich for algae at first so this is done is stages ... at the end the water is tertiary treated back to potable, recycled.

Haven't worked on the polarity or 104-deg much yet, there have to be tricks from them, those animations of the movements (found that page before a while ago) mean most things can't break the bonding past the van der waals radius so they snap back, interjecting the right freq should do the trick without much power is the idea.

The 7.83Mhz is 1/308th (307.96935) of the freq that relates to the oxygen covalent circumference (2.411GHz) ... not a coincidence, only harmonics should work so this one kinda' proves my hunch about using freq to blast it apart ... the graph of freq between states was a clue, as a gas there's a range of freq that show peaks, will check those out, may relate to something useful as a plasma.

I extended the Sternglass idea to find that a photon can orbit an electron using the maximum mass for a photon possible from astronomical observations at 0.9999999% of the speed of light ... math works out to the Compton radius, blew me away, redid the calcs over a couple of weeks to be sure, never found an explanation for that radius before but I'm not an academic so don't have access to much literature.

Anyway, for free energy the idea that much of the sub-atomic world can be structural like that may help find something was the thought, it's a fresh view vs quantum mechanics.

robbosdog

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Re: water holding charg
« Reply #31 on: October 03, 2009, 08:37:15 AM »
Tom , did you that wireless modems work on that frequency ?  (2.411GHz) so  there is a cheap source of parts for your generator , just need an amplifier , this is why I won't have them in my home , we are 80% water after all god knows what damage they cause the human body  .

Uv light and electron charge can achieve much more that just kill virus ect .  Oxygen with the right charge can break complex molecules into their base atomic forms , diesel for example is  C12H23 and it can break it into H23 and C12 a handy trick as it’s the C that’s stuffing the world/environment up .

Calcium carbonate is barely soluble in water so if we use the above and bubble it through calcium the carbon would be transmuted into calcium carbonate and is hence captured .

It’s a lot bloody simpler than geo sequestration , but I will admit doesn’t sound anywhere near as exciting /sexy , they just make money out of people having a poor grasp on science , and the scientists need the research funds to pay for their lifestyle ( with a few , expenses paid conferences on tropical islands to boot ) , and wouldn’t  need years and years worth of funds to come up with a dodgy result at best.

I would like to suggest that you don’t get to bound into subatomic stuff , its good for paper work and wasting trees that’s about all , its mostly based on flawed principals anyways .

Regards ,

Robbo

onthecuttingedge2005

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Re: water holding charg
« Reply #32 on: October 03, 2009, 09:03:15 AM »
Extremely Low Frequency (ELF) 0 to 3 KHz
Very Low Frequency (VLF) 3 KHz to 30 KHz
Radio Navigation & maritime/aeronautical mobile 9 KHz to 540 KHz
Low Frequency (LF) 30 KHz to 300 KHz
Medium Frequency (MF) 300 KHz to 3000 KHz AM Radio Broadcast 540 KHz to 1630KHz
Travellers Information Service 1610 KHz
 High Frequency (HF) 3 MHz to 30 MHz
Shortwave Broadcast Radio 5.95 MHz to 26.1 MHz
Very High Frequency (VHF) 30 MHz to 300 MHz
Low Band: TV Band 1 - Channels 2-6 54 MHz to 88 MHz
Mid Band: FM Radio Broadcast 88 MHz to 174 MHz
High Band: TV Band 2 - Channels 7-13 174 MHz to 216 MHz
Super Band (mobile/fixed radio & TV) 216 MHz to 600 MHz
Ultra-High Frequency (UHF) 300 MHz to 3000 MHz
Channels 14-70 470 MHz to 806 MHz
L-band: 500 MHz to 1500 MHz
Personal Communications Services (PCS) 1850 MHz to 1990 MHz
Unlicensed PCS Devices 1910 MHz to 1930 MHz
Superhigh Frequencies (SHF) (Microwave) 3 GHz to 30.0 GHz
C-band 3600 MHz to 7025 MHz
X-band: 7.25 GHz to 8.4 GHz
Ku-band 10.7 GHz to 14.5 GHz
Ka-band 17.3 GHz to 31.0 GHz
Extremely High Frequencies (EHF)
(Millimeter Wave Signals) 30.0 GHz to 300 GHz
Additional Fixed Satellite 38.6 GHz to 275 GHz
Infrared Radiation 300 GHz to 430 THz
Visible Light 430 THz to 750 THz
Ultraviolet Radiation 1.62 PHz to 30 PHz
X-Rays 30 PHz to 30 EHz
Gamma Rays 30 EHz to 3000 EHz

what did you want to know about 2.411GHz?

robbosdog

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Re: water holding charg
« Reply #33 on: October 03, 2009, 10:29:50 AM »
Me ? bugger all , I can cut and paste quit well myself  thanks ;) ,

http://www.adec.edu/tag/spectrum.html

Tom might find it usefull though ;)

thanks for the input .

Robbo

onthecuttingedge2005

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Re: water holding charg
« Reply #34 on: October 03, 2009, 11:07:47 AM »
2.411GHz = 2411MHz = Full wavelength(11.8cm)
Halfwave = 5.9cm
Quarterwave = 2.9cm

hope this helps also.

Jerry ;)

timallard

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Re: water holding charg
« Reply #35 on: October 03, 2009, 11:48:53 AM »
Nice input, thanks.

To explain the 2.411Ghz, it relates to the circumference of the oxygen atom's covalent radius, if you inject that frequency the signal travels on the outer shell and adds energy, that affects the shared electrons.

Some of the lower freq harmonics are known to produce odd or unexpected results such as the fogging, the 1.83Mhz signal, which divides pretty much as an integer into the 2.411Ghz so is a harmonic, but, likely too low to really blow the molecule apart as the higher freq does have more power and is related to the relativistic forces more than a fundamental or lower harmonic.

I've got the circuits but they need to drive magnets to create the plasma at that freq to basically disassemble the fuel molecules instead of having the volatility of the fuel vaporize to "mix" the fuel on the way into the manifold, so, working on the coils that can operate at that freq without being too lossy.

The reason for that freq is to separate things, it's also to keep them separated beyond the Van der Waals radius so they don't reassemble, at lower freq they have time to snap back to a much larger degree so that takes away from the possible efficiency.

The magnetic field is polarized so will drive free oxygen to one pole and the hydrogen to the other by their intrinsic charge, much like electrolysis but not. This won't be a perfect separation by any means but will be far more efficient than standard electrolysis and can be done to the carbon atom so hopefully will blast the hydrocarbon chains as well, that freq is 1.895Ghz so I'm working on how to combine them and may discover some tricks, exploring the numbers to find harmonics that may do both.

I was checking out the absorption bands of water vapor at 25C to get some more clues, nothing solid on that yet.

Since this is a new project and I don't have much design time in yet and it's already shown to be valid at explaining the fogging as a harmonic of the 2.411Ghz, kinda' stoked, pretty sure it'll work out and may offer about 30% better fuel burning than relying on volatility to disperse the liquid fuel into a gas on the way to the cylinder.

Thanks for the links and freq chart, it all helps ... will post when I get to conclusions or find a good plan for dragging it into a free-energy concept, there may be a net gain at the correct freq if I can get resonance into it, may be higher than what I'm using so I keep that in mind and the chart will help me map it, I was using x-ray freq at first, may still be useful as they are powerful, haven't extended harmonics up yet ...

cheers,

tom