Hi All,
I got a picture from a user, who had problems to post it himself.

Here is a perpetual gravity experiment, where water is always sucked up
a hose and due to its weight in a long hose is always running in a circle.
So water can the pumped perpetually up a hill.

Here it is:

I used a bucket of water that was continuosly filled by the faccet. I used a 12 foot piece of hose(it was what i had laying around). the hose was positioned 2 feet straight up out of the bucket. then the other ten foot flowing in a straight line away from the bucket. I tried twisting the hose back around to the bucket but the flow would stop. on a level surface i measured how deep the hose was in the bucket(WATER INLET), then at the other end i measured up until the flow stoped. what i came up with was about 2inches difference(ABOVE WATER INTAKE). now i will say that the flow of water was alot slower above the intake point but WAS continous.I hope this email gets to you and i hope you try this for yourself.  TONY

> > From: Stefan Hartmann
> > Subject: Re: my experiment
> > To: "tony hughes"
> > Date: Thursday, July 23, 2009, 12:02 PM
> > Hi,
> > did you already post it on overunity.com ?
> >
> > If not,
> > are you going to open source it or do you want to patent it
> > ?
> >
> > What is the status of this invention.
> >
> > As it seems the water weight of the 10 foot hose is the
> > secret to draw up the other water...
> >
> > How big and what diameter was the hose ?
> > Was it a special hose with low fluid friction inside ?
> >
> > Many thanks.
> >
> > Regards, Stefan.
> >



I didn`t post it cause my pic is to big for website You are welcome to post it if you like. I used an ordinary garden hose(hose did not have screw on ends it was just a old piece of garden hose i keep for siphoning gas) for the test. It was your post that intriged me to try it.  I do not think there is any thing to patent here   OPEN SOURCE ALWAYS.  If you have an old garden hose laying aropund try it and saee if you get the same results.   TONY

It seems, the key is the right side 10 foot long hose.
If the weight of  the water in it is bigger than the
atmospheric pressure, then it is able to suck up the water 2 foot on the
left side and we have a perpetual "water mill"

Anybody with a long garden hose in his garden can please verify this ?

Many thanks.

ok thought about this.....I don't think this works because gravity applied to the water is at very low angle ( 11 degrees ) . made a quick picture
using just weights and a ramp. the principle should still be the same  and threw in numbers ..  basically 1 ft of water = 1 lb

you can see its basically evens out

Hi Stefan,

I wonder if this might have anything to do with the theoretical dip in the earth's horizon:

http://mintaka.sdsu.edu/GF/explain/atmos_refr/dip.html

I don't know if this makes sense at only 10 feet in hose length, but could there be just enough of a horizon dip to give the 2 inch difference due to the curvature of the earth? It would mean that the water exiting the hose was actually lower than the entry point even though it was above the water surface. The water's surface would follow the earth's curvature.

I think if you look at the diagram in the link and think about it you would see what I mean?

@Resinrat2
Do you mean that, presuming a dead straight 10ft hose at that incline would have the top part being at a smaller angle with the earth gravity pull than the other end? Naturally, there's no 2" in there.
Taking this a step further though, I see that if there are two balls on the earth's surface, let's say each on opposite shores of a large lake or sea, and a dead-stright tube between them would magically appear around them, these ball would start rolling towards each other. Not attracted primarily by one another, but due to he dead straight tube dipping below the earth's surface.

I would be interested to learn if this experiment has the same results when repeated in all directions, especially dead South, West, North and East.

Interesting anecdote, thank you for sharing.

Could the surface tension of water be at work here? I imagine at low water heights, in the cms or mms, such a factor could become quite significant.
Hard to find an OU application of such sensitive surface properties this minute.

Stefan I'm pretty sure he's describing it the other way around and his diagram shows this. That is the water is going up in the straight part and down on the long part.

There's an extremely similar and recent thread about this found here;

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7788.0

But his experiment should be more controlled. Like he said he didn't let the water back in the bucket as it was to small. I assume someone measured the water level for him continuously as he was measuring the height from the ground 10 feet away and compare it. Some poeple here immediately will find 1000 errors in this experiment.

I have a small long hose and will try the same but scaled down. This is one of those things were talk is useless. A 4 year old child can do this.

I played with water siphons recently in the hopes that it could spin a plastic water wheel. They just don't work because one end of the hose has to be lower than the other this means water has to defy gravity to return to the original tank above (not going to happen). This sort of perpetual motion is one I cannot dispute to work.