Author Topic: The Perfect Spacecraft (Read 36431 times)

onthecuttingedge2005 · « **Reply #30 on:** June 23, 2009, 10:16:51 PM »

at around +50Kv the Electron Targets can emit Low energy Gamma Radiation which can have a possibility of knocking a Neutron loose or can cause a substance to exhibit a small trace of Radio Isotope, for instance by exposing Aluminum to Gamma Radiation can cause Aluminum to become Radioactive very easily which in-turn emits radiation.

Jerry

the_big_m_in_ok · « **Reply #31 on:** June 24, 2009, 12:59:03 AM »

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at around +50Kv the Electron Targets can emit Low energy Gamma Radiation which can have a possibility of knocking a Neutron loose or can cause a substance to exhibit a small trace of Radio Isotope, ...

>>Exactly. Tesla may or may not have known that with precision, but you're right. He knew by experience it would happen.

BTW,
Did you know that the Tesla coil in a specially configured form can effectively supply a useful amount of power?

The patent #7,235,945 "Energy Conversion Systems" was found by me at,

http://www.google.com/advanced_patent_search .

This was the latest version of the patent. Several earlier versions were granted and then aparently improved upon.

The limiting factor for the Tesla coil is that it's Earth-based between the ground negative potential and the positive ionospheric potential. As a The Perfect Spaceraft design, it's limited by proximity to the Earth or a large enough planet having a magnetic field. There are, I realize, other power sources available.

--Lee

onthecuttingedge2005 · « **Reply #32 on:** June 24, 2009, 05:03:24 AM »

Here is my Radioisotope Capacitor Concept for primary and or accessory power needs.

This also means I can recycle the Tritium by bombarding the Helium 3 product with Thermal Neutrons which in turn means the system will run until all Neutron emitting elements are depleted and all remaining Tritium is depleted.

the Neutron Source is not shown in this diagram.

Jerry

onthecuttingedge2005 · « **Reply #33 on:** June 24, 2009, 08:17:17 PM »

Something funny I discovered.

Generally the production of neutrons at a spallation source begins with a high powered accelerator. This is more often than not a synchrotron. As an example, the >>>>ISIS<<<< neutron source is based on some components of the former >>>>Nimrod<<<< synchrotron. Nimrod was uncompetitive for high energy physics so it was replaced with a new synchrotron, initially using the original injectors, but which produces a highly intense pulsed beam of protons. Whereas Nimrod would produce around 2 ÂµA at 7 GeV, ISIS produces 200 ÂµA at 0.8 GeV. This is pulsed at the rate of 50 Hz, and this intense beam of protons is focused onto a target. Experiments have been done with depleted uranium targets but although these produce the most intense neutron beams, they also have the shortest lives. Generally, therefore, tantalum targets have been used. Spallation processes in the target produce the neutrons, initially at very high energiesâ€”a good fraction of the proton energy. These neutrons are then slowed in moderators filled with liquid hydrogen or liquid methane to the energies that are needed for the scattering instruments. Whilst protons can be focused since they have charge, chargeless neutrons cannot be, so in this arrangement the instruments are arranged around the moderators.

See also: ISIS neutron source and Spallation Neutron Source

Inertial fusion energy has the potential to produce orders of magnitude more neutrons than spallation. Neutrons can be used to locate hydrogen atoms in structures, resolve atomic thermal motion and study collective excitations of photons more effectively than X-rays.

d3adp00l · « **Reply #34 on:** June 29, 2009, 12:59:45 AM »

WOW ok, I thought this was gonna be a serious discussion at first.

All this possible bullcrap. Its great to work towards, but its not replicatable, at least not by normal people. If it exists, and we doesn't have it then it might as well as not.

If your talking about a possible design of something that could be built right now, then the answer is simple. Its all around us.

Use a sphere, it is currently the best space ship in existance. it is the most material efficient, and can be spun to create gravity. Or at least an acceleration that resembles gravity.

until fusion becomes real, then use fision, we can create a biodome, that can support life indefinetly. So we could start on a journey to another start system. It wouldn't be safe, and it would take a few lifetimes, but it could be done.

Since technolgy may change during the building of such a ship, I would say start with the super structure, then fill it with the Biodome, while it is in orbit we can study the effects in the dome. when the biosphere is stable, then decide on propulsion, computer control, and the rest.

This would be a huge endeavor, and those who went would not make it back. thats a huge sacrifice. They would be farmers for their whole life, just to exist, while doing that they would study the ship, and space, send info back to us, and send out a beacon to any out there. Their main goal would be to teach their children how to run the ship, and maintain it, so that the 4th generation might make it to the nearest system. A few ships in a fleet would be a good idea.

All this space warpage and what not would be great, and by the time the first ship was halfway there we might figure it out, so send the warp ship to the first ships pick them up, and either give them a ride, or bring them back, but at least we would have made the first steps of a long assed journey.

Would I do it? Thats a hard question. since I have a family (children) i don't know that it would be fair to them, but then again would it be fair to force your unborn children to make the journey. At least I could ask mine right now. I just might give that a go. But since the ship is not being built right now, and I am not in nasa I wouldn't be given that option. But if I was, I think I would do it. Live here and do whatever it is we do here, or live there and do basically the same thing, exist, and live life. Why not. So long as we had one hell of an internet connection J/K.

If a fusion system was used for power, you could use the depleted fuel as fuel for propulsion, ionize it and use and accerator to eject it out the back of the ship. Uranium is heavy as all get out, and would make a good fuel. Plus its trackable.

Is there enough room to store the fuel and whatnot to make it work. I am not sure frankly. If fusion comes around then I an real sure, if its cold fusion (non radioactive) then it can be used as a power source and articial sun for growing.

it would be one hell of a ride.

onthecuttingedge2005 · « **Reply #35 on:** June 29, 2009, 01:48:50 AM »

Hi d3.

the fusion energy is used primarily for electricity production and the production of light, the vehicle is a Light propulsion powered ship. not gravity. it makes the sun seem somewhat dim by perspective. so much light energy that it would melt you.

Gravity ships are the fallen ones by symbolism.
Jerry

d3adp00l · « **Reply #36 on:** June 29, 2009, 04:10:41 AM »

a light bulb sized reactor would not be so bright that it would melt ya.

Unlike fision, fusion can be made very very small, with no worry of china sydrome. These tokamacs are the biggest waste of time and energy i have seen.

But even a thermal system (nasa fisile material with striling engine) is a pretty long term power source, with propulsion fuel after its depleted.

just my .02, if we sit down a design the basics, you would be surprised at what happens. Talk about and it comes to pass.

onthecuttingedge2005 · « **Reply #37 on:** June 29, 2009, 06:09:07 AM »

To prove what I say is true here is how the Earth will end when the Sun changes to a Red Dwarf.

2Pe:3:10: But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
2Pe:3:12: Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?

this is what one will see if they where still on the Earth when it happens.

those in the four billion years into Earth's future came back to the past to tell you a story, it is up to you to listen. he came back into Earth's past to collect male and female species to take to other worlds that are not currently known at this time. the chances that anyone are chosen are slim to none.

I am an Athiest and a Saint, a drunkard, and a scientist and an amature physicist all rolled up into one d3

yes, he did send his sword to you and much more.
Jerry

d3adp00l · « **Reply #38 on:** June 29, 2009, 06:26:00 AM »

oh shut up crack pot

onthecuttingedge2005 · « **Reply #39 on:** June 29, 2009, 06:37:55 AM »

Quote from: d3adp00l on June 29, 2009, 06:26:00 AM

oh shut up crack pot

apparently you have never been haunted by something you never really understood, but maybe you will someday. anyways, have a good evening where ever you are.

Jerry

triffid · « **Reply #40 on:** June 29, 2009, 02:05:11 PM »

Nature provided us with free fusion power from the star we call the sun.While I hear talk about solar sailing which could take us to other star systems by itself alone. I hear no talk about using solar powered rockets to get us to Saturn at least.How hard is it to focus sunlight onto a coil and push water through it,using the sun's heat to convert into steam?Why are we so blind when it comes to using the fusion power of our own star?Why can't we see the sun as a power supply?Triffid

the_big_m_in_ok · « **Reply #41 on:** June 29, 2009, 02:46:03 PM »

onthecuttingedge2005 (Jerry) said:

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...the vehicle is a Light propulsion powered ship. not gravity.
...so much light energy that it would melt you.

Years ago, Keith Laumer(I believe), the Sci-Fi book author, wrote a novel about the initial confrontation between a warlike race(the Kzin?) and humanity.

The human ship was using an engine like---as you suggested---a huge flashlight or 60" search light. The humans, otherwise unarmed, used the ship engine like a powerful

laser to incinerate the alien ship's "bridge" and crispy-fry the alien captain.

The major feature, and my point being, the human ship accelerated at a rate of about 1/100 of a 'G'. Your proposed spacecraft would necessarily be required to be built in orbit for starters, right?

onthecuttingedge2005 · « **Reply #42 on:** June 29, 2009, 06:45:31 PM »

here is the birth place of real lightship technology, the birth of it was developed as having it's energy transfered by a powerful LASER.

the end result of this technology uses self powered systems such as fusion power plants and varies Radioisotope energy systems to power a special light projection system that is similar but more advanced and better futuristic materials, perfect mirrors are one.

Super optical materials are also a must for trapping light and such materials are in their birth states as well, super dielectric mirrors and optics.

if you want to start in the right direction then watch these videos.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPM7wJAhovM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAdj6vpYppA&feature=fvw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q07kZS13DEc&feature=related

it is only the beginning, NASA and Aerospace will continue this technology until it is perfected and self powered. NIF is also a factor in studying the power means for which to power the light Ship, they have already perfected the means to grow specialized crystals.

Aerogels are "Holy" materials that will make dreams come true. Efficiencies will skyrocket when super Aerogels take the place of normal materials.

also, firing a LASER at the perfect spacecraft only makes it more powerful because it will trap and utilize its energy for systems. it won't hurt it.

Jerry

the_big_m_in_ok · « **Reply #43 on:** June 29, 2009, 07:21:54 PM »

onthecuttingedge2005 (Jerry) said:

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...also, firing a LASER at the perfect spacecraft only makes it more powerful because it will trap and utilize its energy for systems. it won't hurt it.

Can you be more specific? How could this be done?

Allow me to make an offhand point:

I read awhile ago,

"How do you burn through a mirror with a laser? Answer: Use a very, very powerful laser."

Unfortunately, I know of no technology that can absorb that kind of energy and not remain undamaged. Think of your perfect spaceship falling into the Sun? You see my point? Same analogy.

--Lee

onthecuttingedge2005 · « **Reply #44 on:** June 29, 2009, 07:55:16 PM »

Hi Big M.
just as there are superconductors for Electricity there are also undiscovered materials which superconduct photons, they are known as Super optics which are super dielectric reflective systems that are cooled to become Super PhotoConductive, they would trap Photons into a perfect circle trap until it is saturated. this technology is also in its birth stages but continued research in the field will perfect the technology for the perfect spacecraft.

Super cooled Dielectric Mirrors are what you want to study in this area or field or field of study. it is not just mirrors but plate type and or Fiber optical and or flat Freznel type optical systems as well. there will be many types of this technology to study but it is the Super Dielectric Aerogels made of this material that will skyrocket the efficiencies of the perfect spacecraft.

also there will be Super Aerogels grown from nanotubes, buckyballs and exotic materials that are in the birth stages. Super Aerogels with hardness far surpassing standard material and made into thin film materials grown directly on to surfaces of the spacecraft.

Trap light and then redirect it.

Holy Holy Holy, so they say.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHnen2nSmDY

Jerry

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