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onthecuttingedge2005

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The Perfect Spacecraft
« on: June 10, 2009, 07:23:40 AM »
I wanted to idealize the idea of a perfect spacecraft and its technology or at least a technological direction that would lead to perfect technologies that include energy production.

lets just say it would be the ultimate Noah's Ark.

please feel free to voice your ideas and directions about how we can accomplish this ultimate future of mankind.
Jerry

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Re: The Perfect Spacecraft
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2009, 07:26:18 AM »
onthecuttingedge2005 said:
>>Okay, I can see that.  But think about this with regard to this thread:

Take two equally long magnet wire spools at the edge of the universe and then unreel them by centrifugal force.  Light and radio waves at the edge of the universe will energize the spinning wires, even at that distance.  They just need to be long wires.

This technology will work anywhere.

--Lee

Hi Lee.

I do agree that a tethered system would work but carries a lot of problems, the hazard of a wire miles and miles long leaves the wire exposed to a lot of particles wandering around between 10k and 50k miles and hour, if you are deep in space it would be very bad to start losing tether wire left and right with limited resources at hand, it would be better to have a more compact system that's protected as a core reactor like Fusion. Deuterium and or Tritium goes a long long way in a fusion reaction of higher efficiencies approaching 99.999%

other methods are Anti-matter to matter reactions and also dimensional energy collecting but they are highly spectacle at this time.

Fusion Energy would buy us time until the other forms of energy collecting are researched and tested and brought to efficiency levels required by a biological conservative system such that is found on a spaceship bound for other systems at extreme distances away. even if worm hole travel is found and utilized doesn't mean we would find a life supporting system in time before our resources were exhausted.

I enjoyed listening to NASA when they tested the tethered system from the space shuttle, they all thought they were going to die and were screaming loudly on the transmission when it failed with an EMP that shuttered their electrical systems momentarily.  Scary!

Jerry :o

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Re: The Perfect Spacecraft
« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2009, 07:29:03 AM »
I also wanted to point out that a perfect spacecraft would have no moving parts whats so ever.

even the occupants of the spacecraft are put in teleportation stasis meaning your body would become an entanglement of quantum energy stored in a teleportation buffer until the destination is reached and then the super computer re-quantifies the persons in charge to investigate whether the local area is worth re-quantifying all personnel from the teleportation buffers.

everyone while in the teleportation buffer would not age, would not use any food, would not produce any wastes, would not have any needs whats so ever while buffered in a tele-storage system.

it's a long way off but I can guarantee the technology will one day become self evident as our technology marches on.

we should open our own discussion forum here on "The Perfect Spacecraft", I would be glad to share some of the things I see in the near future that would benefit mankind.

with a perfect teleportation system it is possible to store billions of people, Animals, Plants, Seeds in the buffers for thousands of years on board a small perfect spacecraft running on a fusion reactor at 99.999% efficiency.

the most efficient Noah's Ark.

Jerry

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Re: The Perfect Spacecraft
« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2009, 11:29:54 AM »
You will need to find a way to non-linear travel.

Any idea that involves linear travel with conventional means is not viable if you want to go interstellar.

There was a presentation by Bob Lazar who claimed to have worked in S4 "dreamland" and who has been mercilessly attacked by everyone shouting hoax.

The theory was that an at that time unknown element (Element 115 - UnUnPentium or UUP) was used to generate the gravity field for “Space-Time Compression.”

The funny thing is that at the time Lazar made his statements there was no such thing known to science as Element 115. (November 1989).

It was discovered in February of 2004, almost 15 years later.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Element_115

Delta configuration:
When you're distorting  space/time and you have the ability of generating an intense gravitational field, then the fastest way from point A to point B is to distort, or warp, or bend the space/time between points A and B, bringing points A and B closer together. The more intense the gravitational field, the greater the distortion of space/time and the shorter the distance between points A and B.

Omicron configuration:
When a vehicle is near another source of gravity, like earth, the Gravity A wave, which propagates outward from the disc, is phase shifted into the gravity B wave, which propagates outward form the earth, and this creates lift.   The gravity amplifiers of the disc can be focused independently and they are pulsed and do not stay on continuously. In the Omicron configuration, one amplifier is pulsed and the craft essentially floats on the neutral established by aiming these two gravities at each other and changing the phase. In this case, the other two amplifiers are free to bias the craft in a lateral direction as well as being used to pick things up.

So you simply collapse space and pull a tiny point of the location you wish to be in towards you. You "hop" onto that point and restore the continuum. Presto. You have instantly covered the distance in a non linear way.

More here:
http://www.boblazar.com/closed/gravity.htm

The complete 1989 presentation used to be online @ Google video but they took it down.

Backup here:
http://www.archive.org/details/antigravity

Watch and judge for yourself. Then research the smear campaign and ask yourself why he was buried like he was.

AZ
« Last Edit: June 10, 2009, 01:21:57 PM by AquariuZ »

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Re: The Perfect Spacecraft
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2009, 07:03:14 PM »
onthecuttingedge2005 said:
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...it would be very bad to start losing tether wire left and right with limited resources at hand, it would be better to have a more compact system that's protected as a core reactor like Fusion. Deuterium and or Tritium goes a long long way in a fusion reaction of higher efficiencies approaching 99.999%
>>Right, with a mature technology base to draw upon.  However, at the edge of the universe, matter like H2, D2, T2 (hydrogen, deuterium, tritium molecules) will probably be hard to come by that far from a star or gas cloud.  That means taking your fuel with you or using a Bussard ramjet?

I do admit a long wire requires a magnet field to produce electricity, yes?  I see either way would be hard-pressed to provide usable power in the middle of nowhere.

Maybe the utilization of intergalactic 'aether' might be necessary--if that's reliably possible. 
Earth systems exist, but do they work at the edge of the universe?

--Lee

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Re: The Perfect Spacecraft
« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2009, 08:42:27 PM »
The image below shows a sample of molten aluminum (the glowing sphere) levitated in an RF (Radio-Frequency) coil. Water-cooled copper tubing carries the RF induction power to the specimen. The crucible here can be vacuum or an inert gas. Research in levitation melting have been conducted on planet Earth at the  Institute for Materials Research,  at the University of Leeds. For more information on this technique, visit the Ameritherm web pages. NASA has conducted much research on making metals and alloys in the vacuum of space where one can not only take advantage of RF (or laser) heating: but one can eliminate the influence of gravity and atmosphere in the solidification process. For information about micro-gravity materials research, link to the following pages.

http://www.ameritherm.com/video_levitation.html

http://www.ameritherm.com/overview_levitation.html

The principle of inductive heating and levitation using microwave emitters is also known like that in what Bob Lazar deems Gravity amplifiers if that is what he wishes to call them, the emitters were Nuclear powered MASER guns that induce RF and electrical induction into a heated medium which causes said medium to repel against the reaction field in the opposing direction. nothing new under the sun here.

the state of the art is using a RF repelling Plasma like that produced via Fusion production wastes that are channeled into a theoretical Plasma Bow tie Antenna envelopes, the rear of said Plasma envelopes are backed by super cooled Diamagnetic reflectors that focus the Levitation field uni-directionally at right angles to the opposing Plasma source.

the correct RF frequency to levitate a craft is matched by a real time spectrometer which analyzes the surrounding atmosphere and matches the Radar frequency that is most reflective to that opposing Gas, Liquid, Solid. the returned opposing field remitted causes the super cooled Diamagnetic reflective backing to repel the returned RF wave, this in principle needs power sources of RF energy that can only be accomplished via Nuclear to Electrical conversion of energy. regular sources of electrical power output just don't have the energy potential to levitate heavier that air systems efficiently.

Microwave RADAR is the in thing when it comes to levitating Molten bodies in an opposing field but RF Plasma Levitation is probably about as good as it gets, the RF Plasma emits a powerful source of field energy that emits the field at right angles to an opposing supercooled Diamagnetic reflector that directs the field in such a way as to levitate the body in a preferred direction using a Plasma Bow tie Distributor system.

as far as getting from point A to point B, in Physics there is what's called the 0 point dimension or 0D then 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th etc, the 0 dimension by definition is a closed wormhole, it is a contraction of space time which leads to all time and all possible Universes within the entire system, the question is how to go about opening a wormhole throat by dilating the 0 dimensional diameter of a wormhole so that a spacecraft can enter safely without being destroyed via re-contraction of the wormhole throat that would squeeze a spacecraft out of existence via the pressure of the fabric of space time itself at the 0D level.

The plasmas in question are Alpha Particles and or Omega Particles.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha_Particle
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omega_particle

my question is this, who time traveled back in time for which our ancestors confused them with being gods and such, they were evidently man made vehicles from the future Earth.

the great mystery is coming to a close soon.
who are the time travelers and what are their earthly names.

Jerry ;) 


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Re: The Perfect Spacecraft
« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2009, 10:44:49 PM »
onthecuttingedge2005 said:
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...the state of the art is using a RF repelling Plasma...

>>The tesla cone coil discussed elsewhere on Overunity was capable of levitating a spacecraft with just an electric charge from a Tesla coil.

Think of the Earth being negatively charged and the ionosphere as positively charged. Resonating a Tesla coil by feeding it properly tuned negative pulses connected the space ship's surface will levitate the ship away from the Earth up into the sky toward the ionosphere. 

Another Tesla coil, oriented 90 degrees to the first, using positive pulses can steer the ship with distinct, 30 degree quadrants electrically isolated from the rest of the ship and having the steering coil point in the desired direction. 
(The ship accelerates toward the preferred direction by electrical attraction involving attraction toward the negative ions in the atmosphere and then repelled by the positive plate on the opposite side of the ship.  The coil would have been turned by hand.)

This design was described in a book concerning the WWII/Pentagon cooperation efforts toward supposed aliens after WWII. 

www.amazing1.com
www.rexresearch.com
and,  Adventures Unlimited Publishers have a lot more information for a price, obviously.  I leave it to the reader to decide whether or not the information is worth serious entertainment.

I present the opinion I do understand the WWII design, but high voltage ionic radiation makes precise manufacturing techniques and flight operations imperative or else it's hazardous to fly.

--Lee

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Re: The Perfect Spacecraft
« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2009, 01:47:51 AM »
I think state of the art "Nuclear Magnetron Guns" have replaced the Tesla coils of old, Tesla coils were used to discover such technology and lead to it but it isn't the answer in the state of the art technology of plasma ships.

Jerry ;)

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Re: The Perfect Spacecraft
« Reply #8 on: June 11, 2009, 02:32:40 AM »
onthecuttingedge2005 said:
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I think state of the art "Nuclear Magnetron Guns" have replaced the Tesla coils of old,...

>>Right, the technology is newer, certainly.  The experimental VASIMR plasma thruster uses a microwave antenna to ionize H2 or Li vapor and accelerate the resulting plasma.

Were you referring to something like is the U.S. Patent #4,495,442 ?
"Cold Cathode Magnetron Injection Gun"

View the patent at:

http://www.google.com/advanced_patent_search

The injection gun fires electrons instead of microwaves to ionize thing(s) at the target.  I don't know which is better or more efficient, though.  What information that's available is quite possibly proprietary, or even classified.

Pictures and drawings of the VASIMR, however, look like the experimental setup should weight tons with thousands of feet of cables and wires.



And BTW, that picture of a drop of molten aluminum being levitated by a specially shaped RF wire antenna is something that surprised me.  Never saw anything like that before.  It does point toward the Germans---and later the Pentagon---using aluminum in their disc craft designs.  I remember that now from the book I saw.

--Lee

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Re: The Perfect Spacecraft
« Reply #9 on: June 11, 2009, 05:28:42 AM »
As state of the art gets better, I think it would be more like this RADAR Array system except way more advanced, Nuclear Powered and super cooled, The Microwave RADAR systems are used to heat up an Antenna medium to its molten state and the applied Microwave RADAR RF field reacts with said Molten Medium, an Electrical field and induction current is induced into the Molten Medium via RADAR Microwave energy. it does require Nuclear Energy to feed this system or there won't be enough energy to get off the ground with standard generators and weight ratios.

the arrays are very much like the RF active denial systems used by riot control.

Jerry
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Re: The Perfect Spacecraft
« Reply #10 on: June 11, 2009, 11:35:07 PM »
onthecuttingedge2005 said:
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As state of the art gets better, I think it would be more like this RADAR Array system except way more advanced, Nuclear Powered...
>>Yes, nuclear powered.  Adding a nuclear power source to a VASIMR thruster arrangement was in at least one source as being able to reduce thrust/power to mass ratio by at least 10:1 .  It would still need to be assembled in space, and carry plenty of fuel in the spaceship tanks.
(I'm at a library, so all I can suggest now is to GOOGLize, "plasma thruster"  "power source" and "nuclear".   I believe I'll have more time this evening to research papers & reports from Gov't or academic sources and give you the 'Web addresse(s).

@all,
Later re-edit:
Have a look at this:  http://www.ornl.gov/sci/fed/summer00/smith.pdf

This paper deals with the VASIMR exclusively, but I still think adding a nuclear---or even a reliable fusion reactor---to power it will improve the overall power/mass ratio noticeably.
--Lee
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Re: The Perfect Spacecraft
« Reply #11 on: June 12, 2009, 09:14:59 PM »
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Re: The Perfect Spacecraft
« Reply #12 on: June 12, 2009, 09:18:14 PM »
A lakhovsky coil could be used to generate electricity in deep space since its powered by radiowaves and cosmic rays.It would help us to "feed off the Land "as it were.You tap into them by induction.Triffid

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Re: The Perfect Spacecraft
« Reply #13 on: June 13, 2009, 12:39:58 AM »
A lakhovsky coil could be used to generate electricity in deep space since its powered by radiowaves and cosmic rays.It would help us to "feed off the Land "as it were.You tap into them by induction.Triffid

Hi triffid.

can the lakhovsky coil idle at 1MW, how big would the lakhovsky coil have to be to idle at 1MW?

I haven't found to much details about it.

Jerry

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Re: The Perfect Spacecraft
« Reply #14 on: June 14, 2009, 05:50:02 AM »
www.copperhealth.com gives a lot of details on how to make and use lakhovsky coils.They are low powered but they could last for hundreds of years if not longer.I believe they could be used to power up capacitors which could be tapped to perform useful work.The largest I ever made was 25 feet in diameter.I did not have a good enough voltmeter to measure anything but I could feel a benefit from wearing these coils on my body(much smaller than 25 feet of course).To me they might be a power source that we need to examine more.Afterall cosmic rays and radiowaves seem to be everywhere in the know universe even if there is no strong sunlight present.Triffid