Gary already answered my question and he was right.

That sounds like the " normal " way to trigger  an  ignition coil


gary

 The first 110 volt igniter coil that comes to mind is a oil furnace igniter coil. You can find them in the common kerosene salamander heaters. I just happen to have a couple of them. One of which has a bad pump but the igniter still works fine. I will try it out tomorrow along with trying to blow up by wreckers motor by spraying water in the intake.

OK now, the first thing to do is to make sure this is an implosion (or prove absolutely it is an explosion) I am sure someone can rig up a spark plug to fit into a plastic bottle and when it ignites it will be easy to see if it is an explosion or an implosion.

Jeanna

I think it is both 

years ago I  remember watching a  video  about  browns gas 
He filled  a plastic  container   with it  in a tank of water   then  ignited it .

water  rushed in and filled  the  container .

I am pretty sure that   HHO  explodes ........but then it  quickly .........or  sometimes  extreamly  quickly   condenses  causing  an implosion .
There have been  discussions  about the need to preheat the engine  to  slow the  condensation   down enough to  get   the engine to kick over   


gary

Sorry guys but I was unable to get my 6.9 to restart by just misting water in to the intake. It was ran until it reached the normal running temperature and then the fuel was disconnected then it died. I tried to restart it to make sure all the fuel was out and it would not start. I then sprayed water in to the intake with my mist sprayer as I tried to start it. It would not start. I feel I sprayed enough to start it, if it was to start. I did not want to spray to much.

 I then reconnected the fuel lines and after bleeding the system, it started back up. It runs just fine as it did when I started. Therefore it will take more then just spraying water in to the intake. I want to try a couple other things like using charged water, steam, charged steam, and water vapor and then charged water vapor.
 I would have tried those things today too, but I had to take the family to the Field of flight balloon festival here in Battle creek.

 I did come across some info regarding charged vapors. I have seen some videos about this in the past but I thought it was a scam but I am starting to thing it may not be.

 Watch these two next videos and tell me what you all think.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMNCebzgCgg&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2KRRgjcJTg&feature=related

 If this really works, I think we can use it to fuel diesel engines as well as all fuel consuming engines and use water and or any liquid as fuel. I wonder how many MPG we can get from urine? LOL

Implosion vs explosion.
I was trying to find a water pump that I read about but the closest I found was
The Humphrey pump (the diagram I believe is missing a one way valve in the
?play pipe?.
http://www.angelfire.com/ak5/energy21/humphreypump.htm


The one I remember was a pumping station in England , built a 100 years
Ago and still working which used vacuum to lift water. Might have been the same or a
Variation of this.

There?s also the 6 cycle diesel.
http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060227/FREE/302270007/1023/THISWEEKSISSUE

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Crower's_Six-Stroke_Engine

and also , water injection is also used in turbine power plants for increased efficiency
and power,

http://scitation.aip.org/getabs/servlet/GetabsServlet?prog=normal&id=JETPEZ000124000001000096000001&idtype=cvips&gifs=yes

http://energy-tech.com/index.cfm?PageID=108&c2e=236&e2e=0&rs=0&artid=420

I wonder if you injected water into the exhaust before the turbo
And used the increased  pressure developed on the compressor side to
Help run the engine by ?compressed air?. (as a efficiency booster,still running on fuel of course).
Might kill or crack the exhaust side of the turbo though.

(some diesels I believe use a throttle plate to increase temperature and
Reduce ?pumping?, that might need to be removed or opened up some?)

Cliff,

 Hi
  How about some UNscientific info   I live in Costa Rica, and drive an old Diesel Land Cruiser.
  I use WELL filtered used Deep fryer oil, and mix with Diesel and a little Regular gasoline. 70% oil, 30% diesel and a ? cup of gasoline, in 10 gallons of mix.

  Use the glow plugs and cycle them 2 cycles. Engine starts and runs a little rough. I keep the plugs lit up, and within a minute or so, I head out. The engine smokes a lite blue smoke, if I don't keep using the plugs, intermittently. Supposedly, the used oil will end up "coking" or carboning up the rings and injector tips, sooo, When I return home, it's ALL uphill, so the engine is really warmed up, I pop the hood, and gently drizzle plain water into the screen type air filter. The water gets broken up, by passing through the screen, and the vacuum should break it up more.

  I know it's NOT injected mist, but, the engine WILL bog down, if I don't run it at least ? throttle. I do this a couple times, and the black smoke, and blue smoke and white smoke (steam) ?? makes an interesting cloud.    Right now, I think I have a bad glow plug, because I have developed a miss at start up, and it blows a little blue smoke, probably from the oil-diesel mix. As soon as the temp gets up a hair, the engine smooths out and runs fine.

  NOW, a while back, I was getting into the HHO thing.

  I found that later injection was necessary for the EXplosion, before the IMplosion. I have some good contacts on another unrelated forum, that have tried to offer assistance.

  I was wanting to try to inject the HHO vapor into the diesel engine, same as guys do with gasoline engines. One guy thinks he may have an idea, but, the items he suggests are difficult to obtain down here, because my Spanish is Poor, to say the least. Also, Gringos are rich, so, they double or more the prices.

  IF this info might be of interest, I could copy-paste the thoughts this guy sent.

  He seemed it had a good chance of working, without machining the head.

  Unfortunately, this is ALL well over MY old head, so, I'm just rambling on. 

 Here's the messages I received by 2 different people.

  Maybe it will help someone get a Diesel injected with HHO.

  "Harold here is a link to some water injection devices. You may already have this booked marked though.
 www.free-energy-info.co.uk/index.html Good luck keep, me posted if you will."


 Second guy:

http://cloudtops.com/fog_nozzles.htm

I still go back to what they show in the link.  This is about the only way I know how to deliver a fog.
 Put one in each intake runner and let the piston pull it in.  There is really nothing you can put directly
into the cylinder head or shoot directly into the chamber without MAJOR reengineering.



 A gas fuel injector has a line comming into it from a shared fuel rail.  Pressure is about 40-60 psi. 
THe injector is basically a solenoid that has power on one side (hot all the time) and is actuated by grounding
the other side.  A small pintle opens up and fuel flows past it and to the tip where it is atomized. 
I don't know if a fuel injector will atomize the water sufficiently though, havn't tried that before.
 I do know those button atomizers do a very good job and get about as fine of a mist that I think you are looking for.


What ever you use for a water storage tank you can use a high pressure fuel pump in the tank.
 Can pick them up for cheap at any parts store.  There is a pick up sock in the bottom where the fuel
is pulled into the pump, a line that goes to the fuel rail (high pressure) and a return line.
 The newer fuel systems operate on a returnless system where the pump regulates the volume and pressure. 
Older (pre 2006) systems return what ever wasn't used.  It had a regulator on the fuel rail that would keep
the pressure constant (pumps have the capacity of putting out over 100psi but it is hard on them thermally speaking).

Most diesels have a cam or crank sensor, if it is an electronic type system, or other timing sensor to tell the injectors when to open.
 It sends a signal to a computer that in turn interprets the signal and fires injectors at the right time.
The system you are looking at doing does not require milisecond accuracy, just knowing how many degrees of engine
rotation the intake valve is open and what the firing order is.
The electronics part is kind of out of my league as far as desiging but the basic principle is you need an
RPM signal comming in, a timing signal (cam or crank sensor).  On the output side will be a hot wire that
feeds the injectors and a method to give them ground at the right time.  Gas injectors usually are fired in miliseconds.

I just found this at Extreme HHO. It's a nice 30 amp Pulse Width Modulator with a built in gauge.
http://www.extremehho.com

A member said we should design a HHO set up for diesel and I thought I would start a new thread and dedicate it to designing a HHO on demand set up for diesels and not just small trucks but for semi?s and large diesel tractors as well.

 In this following video we have a 14 cell unit designed for a 7.3 diesel. It is not running off just the HHO but I thought it would make for a good start video to help get us going.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jlv0_m7834

 I have a fleet of diesel wreckers and I will dedicate one for experimenting purposes. I am not sure which one as of right now but I will look them over tomorrow and then decide.

 We may be able to utilize something from the following thread that is being discussed at this time.

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,5024.0.html

 I also have other links I will provide as time goes by. I have to locate them and I will post them as I find them again. If anyone else has and or comes across links to info that can help us, please post them so that we can all check them out.

 I do ask that everyone welcome all comments with the up most respect and I ask that no one put another member down for a idea they have to offer. We are all here for the same reason.

Thats the attitude that will make this technology work!!! Keep on keeping on!