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Author Topic: The TPU uncovered? (A PROBABLE technique.)  (Read 340535 times)

poynt99

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Re: The TPU uncovered? (A PROBABLE technique.)
« Reply #450 on: July 15, 2008, 04:37:07 PM »
In essence you put in 5V @ 100ma, and for a small fraction of a second, you see a spike of say 20v @ 100ma. For that fraction of a second you see over-unity. The sharper the input pulse and the cleaner the signal, the higher the initial voltage spike and, viola, the greater the factor of over-unity.

Paul Andrulis   

i'd be ecstatic to see anyone prove this

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Re: The TPU uncovered? (A PROBABLE technique.)
« Reply #451 on: July 15, 2008, 06:24:10 PM »
@poynt99 - I've seen it, Paul has seen it, Otto has seen it, as have many others, and you can too. Send a sharp pulse through a wire or coil and see the kick on your scope. It's a nano-second event, so you'll need to dial the scope to the smaller divisions. It's a transitional effect that occurs at some level in any device when DC power is applied. Why DC? Because standard AC power from generators provides smooth sines instead of sharp pulses. But I do not agree with the notion that the kick comes from the earth's magnetic field, as SM quoted from the EE book - I think it's more of a wavefront effect.

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Re: The TPU uncovered? (A PROBABLE technique.)
« Reply #452 on: July 15, 2008, 10:47:28 PM »
Check out Dale Ponds water hammer explanation of the Keely engine on youtube.
The most important thing that will ever hear is the attachment of a microwave waveguide or horn on the bottom of the water channels. In late 1800's no less.
For those who constantly berate and want proof this should educate you into the effect of impulse resistance. Matter applied at a speed faster than the destination can respond. The effect, reflection, echo, artifact is greater than the frequency level of the offending matter. We only see it after it has slowed down to match our senses(Walter Russell). How narrow, eh? Everything else becomes mute.
Except for desktop eletrostatic nuclear detonation. 8)

Or do a belly flop from 22 feet up and tell us where the water went on impact. ;)

--giantkiller. Keely was a true genius.
« Last Edit: July 15, 2008, 11:32:04 PM by giantkiller »

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Re: The TPU uncovered? (A PROBABLE technique.)
« Reply #453 on: July 15, 2008, 11:41:51 PM »
i'd be ecstatic to see anyone prove this

you can do it to.... :)

what hapins if...... it is 5 v 10 amp :o :o :o


hummmmm.....

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poynt99

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Re: The TPU uncovered? (A PROBABLE technique.)
« Reply #454 on: July 16, 2008, 03:40:07 AM »
@poynt99 - I've seen it, Paul has seen it, Otto has seen it, as have many others, and you can too. Send a sharp pulse through a wire or coil and see the kick on your scope. It's a nano-second event, so you'll need to dial the scope to the smaller divisions. It's a transitional effect that occurs at some level in any device when DC power is applied. Why DC? Because standard AC power from generators provides smooth sines instead of sharp pulses. But I do not agree with the notion that the kick comes from the earth's magnetic field, as SM quoted from the EE book - I think it's more of a wavefront effect.

great to hear buzz. already tried it, but no joy.

as i said i'd be ecstatic to see anyone's proof...post your scope shot please ;)



for those who constantly post non-sensical banter and couldn't debate their way out of a wet paper bag--- best not to venture out  :D

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Re: The TPU uncovered? (A PROBABLE technique.)
« Reply #455 on: July 16, 2008, 04:41:23 AM »
@poynt99

At this point I would have to state that no, you probably haven't..... (tried anything that is.)

This isn't some "new" occurrence.
This isn't some "rare" happening.

It happens pretty much anytime you flick a switch on.

Therefore I highly doubt that you have checked anything, by your responses.

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Re: The TPU uncovered? (A PROBABLE technique.)
« Reply #456 on: July 16, 2008, 05:07:44 AM »
Hello,

Could someone tell me in very short words about SM device ?
Do I guess correctly that this device has :
- an electronic  circuit part
- an excitor coil probably of large self-induction
- a torroidal transformer probably made in such way as to step down frequency also
?

Please, give me an idea, there is so many OU devices, do you have so much time to analyze them all ? I would like to limit myself to those which are possible to replicate or understandable.

innovation_station

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Re: The TPU uncovered? (A PROBABLE technique.)
« Reply #457 on: July 16, 2008, 06:40:40 AM »
great to hear buzz. already tried it, but no joy.

as i said i'd be ecstatic to see anyone's proof...post your scope shot please ;)



for those who constantly post non-sensical banter and couldn't debate their way out of a wet paper bag--- best not to venture out  :D

look around im sure you will find my scope shots.....  wich prove this quite clearly ....

if you havent seen my past posts ....   go  fish  read n learn than speek  :)

wanna talk of the tesla coil that returns 100 fold??  same damn thing ......  transmit to recieve

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Re: The TPU uncovered? (A PROBABLE technique.)
« Reply #458 on: July 16, 2008, 07:25:53 AM »
@poynt99

At this point I would have to state that no, you probably haven't..... (tried anything that is.)

This isn't some "new" occurrence.
This isn't some "rare" happening.

It happens pretty much anytime you flick a switch on.

Therefore I highly doubt that you have checked anything, by your responses.

Paul Andrulis

Paul,

if i say i tried it but haven't seen anything, that's exactly what I mean.

tried it, collaborated with a few others that tried it also, again, no joy.

so please, rather than just saying you've seen it...show us  :D i'd love to see both yours and buzzard's scope shots.

sorry, but if no one can produce a scope shot and post it here, then based on what i and others have seen, i'm not about to easily accept that you have either. but like i said, show me your scope shot and i'll be convinced.
;)

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Re: The TPU uncovered? (A PROBABLE technique.)
« Reply #459 on: July 16, 2008, 08:12:02 AM »
tesla coil talk time ....

look at the tesla coil

you got the primary...  you got the secondary ....  and you got the RE...

right

well  pluse the primary ....  collect in the secondary ...   store in a cap   

release cap after first fire in primary ......

the entire time the RE IS FREE

same same

now just convert the RE to hot....    cold to hot what ya got?? 

ist

ill tell ya what ya got  ...

thease  are conversion devices  they are not free engery devices....... 

you must invest somthing to recieve anything back...

there for they are not free engery devices

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Re: The TPU uncovered? (A PROBABLE technique.)
« Reply #460 on: July 16, 2008, 08:24:30 AM »
@poynt99

I honestly do not see how you cannot be getting results, but I will give you the fair shake of the stick, so to speak, as I definitively understand your viewpoint at this juncture in time.

I have a web-cam, but I have never made videos using it before, and frankly do not know how yet. I will.

I seriously doubt my reflexes are fast enough to simply snap a pic, in the duration of time the pulse lasts. (IE ns range)

I will try to make a short vid, then see if I can't extract a frame with the pulse, if the web-cam is fast enough. I have seen others extract pics from vids, so I know I should be able to. That is just messing with software.


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Re: The TPU uncovered? (A PROBABLE technique.)
« Reply #461 on: July 16, 2008, 08:57:41 AM »
thanks Paul, i appreciate the effort you're taking.

why not drive your "kicker" with a pulse train, then you will have a periodic scope shot you can easily take with a cheap digital camera.

please let us know your setup details too, such as wire resistance (or optionally current), voltage source, switch mechanism, load (if any) etc. etc.

without going down that "suppressed science" road, i'm wondering why if this is such a common and well known occurance that is ou, it isn't already mainstream science, and why we're not already using it to power our homes  ??? how come 100's of experimenters and researchers haven't developed something from this (besides SM)?

looking forward to your results

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Re: The TPU uncovered? (A PROBABLE technique.)
« Reply #462 on: July 16, 2008, 12:02:26 PM »
@poynt99

No problem. It will take me a little while though to figure out all this web-cam software garbage. I have been needing to learn to do it anyway though, as the knowledge will come in handy later.

I will try to make as simple of setup as possible for demonstration and for simplicity of replication.

Concerning your question: the answer is simple. The problem is that you cannot ask the question if you do not want the answer.

The answer = $

No, I am not a conspiracy dude, but I also know the power of greed, both on an individual scale, as well as larger scales.

If $20 in your pocket can get you killed in the wrong neighborhood, of what surprise is the protection of billions of dollars of revenue per year...........  It is stupid, senseless, sad, but unfortunately also true.

Who makes it to the top echelon of corporations? Is it not generally the most desirous of the position, whom was willing to do whatever it took to get there? (dog eat dog and all that rot) These are also the people whom are "protecting" their companies.

It is a common and well known occurrence in EE, but it is never stated as OU. Nothing ever is, or probably ever will be. OU is a bad term leaving a bad taste in too many mouths to ever be seriously accepted professionally.

In academia, professional reputations and many times research grant moneys dependent upon certain principles being true, are at stake.

In the business sector entire fortunes and even the necessity of existence for various corporations, let alone the fortunes of investors in these corporations, are at stake.

In the governmental sector, some volatile nations have a sole export being energy, and things like treaties come into play. Not to mention the fact that many of the politicians themselves may be heavily invested in energy corporations. So national security, vested interest, and economies are at stake.

Now consider again the fact that individuals can and do kill others every day for a lousy $20, and I ask why you are surprised that suppression (generally legal and NOT lethal) of technology happens on all fronts.

Why? Put a TPU or other OU device in every home in the world. Now what is affected? Simply stated, every person in the world can now live with free energy, and never pay heating, cooling, or energy bills ever again. Guess what, vehicles follow suit. As with all techs, over time comes miniaturization and improvement in technology.  Coal, Gas, Oil, Commercial Electricity, and batteries, all become a glorious thing of the past.

You cannot charge for what is freely available, so the only ones making money off of energy are those making and selling TPU's.... Every other dime is gone.

MULTIPLE TRILLIONS of dollars are not spent on these items worldwide every year.... These trillions are making how many people money per year? How many people are now out of work, and even worse, who's job skills are completely obsolete? You do the math. Entire wars have been caused over Oil disputes.......   

These level headed types have been known to throw themselves out of windows at 20 stories, because they lost their money. (Consider the stock crash leading to the great depression.)

Now, consider where the money comes from for research grants, school funding, etc, etc, etc, and consider how many areas of research now have no need for existence beyond , therefore no funding. ...... Consider how specialized training generally is now days. How many doctorates have just become either fools proven wrong, outdated, or outmoded. You already know the answer here.

No "conspiracy" need be involved, it is a simple matter of economics and history, not conspiracy.

It has always been the creed of detectives to "follow the money", as a first rule of thumb. It is true here. Most people just simply never think about it any deeper than "man I would love something like that", without considering any of the ramifications of quite literally anything other than the obvious.

I have one simple question for you concerning this level headed academia (which includes the colleges, professors, as well as all else connected). Why is it that the term "pseudoscience" applies to BRANCHES of chosen study, and not to experimental techniques used?  What happens to scientists whom venture into the realms of pseudoscience? (Do you want a list....? I can think of many just off hand.)

So. You have this sinking feeling in your stomach. What I have said is obvious, and whats worse, simple and historically accurate. Worse, you can now probably think of many obvious things even beyond what I have stated, for this is anything but comprehensive, just a simple overview.

You asked, there it is. That is why the world, academia, and everyone is not screaming for this tech, and why it is discouraged, as well as any and every tech or physical principle like it.

@everyone else

No, I am not a government operative. :D

This is just a common sense evaluation of the problem.

Paul Andrulis

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Re: The TPU uncovered? (A PROBABLE technique.)
« Reply #463 on: July 16, 2008, 02:37:45 PM »
@Paul

Unfortunately you are damn right; nevertheless stay at the ball...

Greets  ;)

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Re: The TPU uncovered? (A PROBABLE technique.)
« Reply #464 on: July 16, 2008, 03:03:41 PM »
I see that noone was so gentelman to explain me about current status of SM TPU device in short words.
Well, in taht case sorry, I cannot help you build one or explain how it may work. All I can say is that NOW you have a great opportunity to understand it and many free energy lost devices due to excellent findings of some independant OU researchers working on other topics ....

Please BE OPEN MINDED next time...