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Offline Cherryman

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Utron research
« on: February 02, 2017, 12:25:58 PM »
Hi all, I'm doing some research of the Utron, as described by Otis T. Carr.


I'm not claiming anything, but i have some ideas i want to test, while learning and having some fun.
I did not know in what forum topic this should be, but as Otis called the Utron an Accumulator and a Battery , I guess this is a good as place as any.


I share most of what i'm doing, for those interested.


And I hope if i have some questions, people would like to think along.
Also the other way around, if you have any questions, feel free to ask. ( Just don't expect hardcore measurement apparatus or deeply technical answers )


My test are not very structured, it is usually what comes to mind, but  i have a goal!


My latest test was with a double Utron, with different plates.


One Utron with 3 large plates , the other with 8 small plates, combined to the same Ion power source and axle.
I wanted to combine torque and speed, as well as some other observations for the next step.


Double Test:


https://youtu.be/Y1PIOBXqGls





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Utron research
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Offline Cherryman

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Next step
« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2017, 06:45:04 PM »
Next step is testing if and how it works in en enclosure.

Very rude testbed, but it works!
I could vacuĆ¼m this, but not now, i need opening it up frequently.

The enclosure will be the base for my magnetic field to come.

https://youtu.be/0UJpQqp4ojo

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Small test of plats on disc
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2017, 12:29:19 AM »

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Re: Utron research
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2017, 11:31:35 AM »
Now the concept works I did some cleaning up.


Not much to report.





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Re: Utron research
« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2017, 11:38:54 PM »


Did some more testing and learning


A test with the two rotors connected  in series
Another with one rotor with double contacts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QIhLKVh_XI




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Re: Utron research
« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2017, 11:38:54 PM »
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Re: Utron research
« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2017, 02:14:44 PM »

These motors, especially the dual stage utron devices appear like they would spin a good 9 inch polycarbonate wimshurst disk or may be even two.
Multibank Wimshurst machine disks were used to power medical Xray machine tubes before modern power supplies were developed, near the turn
of the century. These devices if cleaned up really look as though they could self power. They look like they could turn the collector disks directly in a 1:1 drive


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Re: Utron research
« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2017, 03:38:01 PM »
[/font][/size]These motors, especially the dual stage utron devices appear like they would spin a good 9 inch polycarbonate wimshurst disk or may be even two.Multibank Wimshurst machine disks were used to power medical Xray machine tubes before modern power supplies were developed, near the turnof the century. These devices if cleaned up really look as though they could self power. They look like they could turn the collector disks directly in a 1:1 drive
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Yes, that's why i'm testing different diameters and/or plate sizes on the same axle.
Also i'm trying to establish if and if so, how much drag collecting will give.


I'm not making an UFO ( yet ; )  I'm just focusing on the power supply characteristics of the Utron accumulator.
I'm convinced the Utron is a capacitor and i think that when you speed it up it will trow out electrons due to angular momentum .. I just have to catch them ; )


But as all this is very new to me, i keep getting distracted and want to try different things and setups.  I guess thats good, i'm learning a lot.


Tnx for your input.




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Offline Cherryman

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Simulation
« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2017, 12:46:50 PM »


To make it easier to understand I made a simulation of the basic principle.
Note: This is not the final design
TIP ( Thought In Progress )

https://youtu.be/lEmyfmx5HcM


Inside there is the ion flow coming out in the middle.
The upper half and bottom half of the Utron are changing continuously polarity.

When the magnetic field is introduced they are forced around in the chamber and are picking up speed until they are thrown out.


For those who know what a Cyclotron is..
This is in a way a 3D version of a cyclotron.


But I do not only want to accelerate the particles, also the mass.

Edit: I did not expect the outbreak at the top.
I think it is just a leak in the design and simulation.


I have made another one, more up to my expectations.
Although somehow the outcome of the above one still looks nice : )


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Re: Utron research
« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2017, 04:40:54 PM »
I fixed the leak, now the particles escape at the right perimeter.


https://youtu.be/TgA4H1DeV6M


Also on the little screens are the collector plates visible.


Notice the nice geometric shapes of the particles before they fly out of trajectory.





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Re: Utron research
« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2017, 09:08:03 PM »
The most important thing I got from Mr Carr's mathematics
Was the geometries involved, that almost all replicators seem to miss.


The inside geometry is perfectly spherical
The cone can vary, because a cone is always geometrically
"coherent" with it's sphere. By the law of cones and spheres.


Think of it like an electron 'lense'.
Which also has a reverse focal point at the center of
The sphere
That's why he places an importance on the plane
90-degrees to the vectoral
Along the junction of the two spheres/cones.


Miss this and you are just spinning a cone shaped coil


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Offline Cherryman

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Re: Utron research
« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2017, 09:25:15 PM »
The most important thing I got from Mr Carr's mathematics
Was the geometries involved, that almost all replicators seem to miss.


The inside geometry is perfectly spherical
The cone can vary, because a cone is always geometrically
"coherent" with it's sphere. By the law of cones and spheres.


Think of it like an electron 'lense'.
Which also has a reverse focal point at the center of
The sphere
That's why he places an importance on the plane
90-degrees to the vectoral
Along the junction of the two spheres/cones.


Miss this and you are just spinning a cone shaped coil


I know, not missed by me.   : )  Be patient.

I know those texts out of my mind ; )
Thats why mine is hollow in the first place.

I'm going in small steps


Here is an update:



Testing the HV AC switching of the different half.
& Got Zapped !! : )
But it works!    Got some good switching going on, time to seal it up!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqQqTEm2NF8

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Re: Utron research
« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2017, 10:32:37 PM »
Essentially the Utron will be a planet in space
The magnetic field is the Sun.


Question:


When i take in mind the cyclotron, then the magnetic field should be in line with the two halfs.
But when i take in mind the Sun and planets.. then it should be 90 degrees turned.


I think I have the answer.  Coil should be vertical in this case.

And some spark fun: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4TrwBUSVnM


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Re: Utron research
« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2017, 06:55:04 AM »
Looks like you are heading in the right direction
What you have represents a single 'loop' of a coil
If you were to use coated magnet-wire and make
Many loops around the cone. Then make the inside
A sphere.
Current through the coils would produce a magnetic
Dipole one end being north, the other south
The center line where the two halves join
Is the perpendicular dielectric inertial plane.
The magnetic field is very intense at the tips.
It is the entire field of the coil, condensed to a small
Space.
The strength  of the magnetic field can reach far greater
magnitudes than expected from the same # of turns and
length of wire using a normal coil.
It's like electromagnetic 'neos' or whatever you want to call it.
Stronger field, smaller physical magnet. (At the tip)


The electrostatic energy is stored on metal plates (capacitors)
The magnetic energy is what rotates the main u-tron.
The magnetic field in the center (focal point of the sphere)
is purely in the electric vector. A charge at this point experiences
a force 90-degrees to the magnetic vector.
In the same way that electric current produced a magnetic field
90-degrees to itself.


The "air" inside ionizes and provides more than enough potential
to keep the charge flowing. But even in the absence of air (vacuum)
The very metal itself will induce charges because of the (0-point) charge
at the sphere's focal point.


When the main u-tron is set up properly, placing a current across the coils
It will begin to rotate in the same manner as any magnetic motor.
This creates a relative motion between any point around the center-line
of the sphere, and the charge. Thereby causing induction.
This is the main charging source of the device.
Your power supply
This is then converted back to charge the coils.


As the device spins up, current is induced through the coils in the smaller
U-trons around the outside.
The reason they are at the angle they are at is to provide an upward
rotational inertia to the craft. Which can be controlled by switching
the smaller U-trons to give control and direction.
These are your "steering wheels"
The small electrostatic energy they harvest is cycled back through
the entire assembly.


Hope that helps, if you have any ?'s I'll be glad to try and answer them.

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Re: Utron research
« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2017, 06:58:50 AM »
Don't forget to teather your UFO before you fully test it
We don't want another Searl incident

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Re: Utron research
« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2017, 07:11:44 AM »
Oh one more thing


Don't coil directly to the cone.
It's a step-geometry
Square- like legos or old nintendo
The frame of the cone coil doesn't
have to be part of the sphere
It's easier to have the two half spheres
Then use a non-conductive step-cone frame
to put the coil on.
You have to figure out your pitch and how many
steps there will be, how many turns per step, etc.
This is where I veer off, our knowledge of conical coils
is far more advanced than was Mr. Carr's, and that
discussion would be off topic, more applicable to
the subject of improving a working design.
We need to get one working first.




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Re: Utron research
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