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Hoppy

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« Reply #9765 on: August 02, 2015, 01:37:50 PM »
Maybe , :) can run bulbs , or motors or other thing Nick .
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDbEsk89yMQ

Hi Nelson,

Nice self-runner.  ;D ;)

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« Reply #9766 on: August 02, 2015, 01:57:54 PM »

Now that Nelson has published his latest video on here, please notice on the bottom left a strange device that look’s to be a cross between a BaCo foil winding and a transformer, any one any ideas what that might be ? It does appear to have a similarity to Vasmos device it’s a nice device, lets just hope it sees the light of day, everything else seams to disappear once it’s sold, such a pity.
« Last Edit: August 02, 2015, 08:30:34 PM by AlienGrey »

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« Reply #9767 on: August 02, 2015, 02:45:26 PM »
Hi Tomtech29.
K555TB9 (K555TV9):
Seems to be a type of JK flip flop.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:K555TV9_JK_Trigger.gif
Suppliers:
http://www.evita.lt/en/555tv9-k-mikroschema-k555tv9
http://www.russian-electronics.com/products/ics-unf-modules-microassemblies/:k555tv9
Thanks for the fix on the shop quickly and handily.
 -something the next free day I will collect

I stand a little in one place with this circuit "LC" I had a few ideas to tune and match the capacity of capacitors, get smaller losses on the power supply. However, the problem remains the same: multi-layer coil output load 200 Wat -resistance is critical (as if close circuit on short circuit)We see the effect of the impact of a decrease in amperage so apparently supposed to work  :-\
except that either this coil is in the wrong direction and has a poor inductance and wire like copper but who knows it or not doped with other metals ,I swapped another ferrite with a slightly thinner cross-section of 3mm2 derivation from 3 turns I received a lower consumption of energy by push-pull (the effect of winding very close to each other) groan in no case power on the coil multilayer the question is why?

NickZ as you are able to light up 500 Watt power supply not enough that your system push-pull 12V how many amps goes to the inductor?
Please explain it to me what happens in your system when you do a short circuit at the output coil "168"?
-your red wire is stiff solid copper wire?
-or weave elastic cord 2.5mm2

at one case for real with older movies Ruslan hooked one bulb and the other on time and on an oscilloscope it was seen as the amplitude drops! and he says that resonance does not change and is in place and using the "pap" test signal from a small toroid.
and now 6 bulbs and says nothing about the amplitude seen as more bulbs lose their power until the battery very low power consumption ::)
I know I'm repeating myself but something I do not understand
-frequency load does not change and so resonance is and how it shows in his new film it is not necessary to use this small ferrite: toroid!
if we see that Kacher is disconnected "coil inductor 'I work in resonance and a few light bulbs Candle 50% of it and so does the rest of the work Piss little Kacher.

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« Reply #9768 on: August 02, 2015, 04:37:04 PM »
  Tomtech:
  I don't fully understand what you are saying.  You asked me if what happens if the 168 turns coil is shorted at the output?
At the moment I can't tell you what happens, as far as consumption goes, because I have not trying to read the draw on anything yet. My scope will be here in about one week, and I'll be able to know more then.
  At least on my system, the bulbs have a lot to do with the way that the output behaves, as well as how different tuning caps affect the output. The amplitude readings do drop with each additional bulb added to the output. This normally normally affects the resonance values, as well. That's why the higher wattage bulbs are important to use, or the resonance factor due to impedence matching will not be available if using the small (25 to 60 watt) bulbs. 
  Only Nelson's device uses the smaller incandescent bulbs, as it may work at a different mode of operation. Such as my Joule Ringer device works, and can light incandescent and CFL bulbs.
    I suspect what Nelson has is something like a Joule Ringer coil (coil under black tape), but, has also obtained a proper loop back to the input side, to allow it to self run.  I guess...  as this is a guessing game, with out it being fully disclosed.
  What he wanted to show us, was the possibilities, but not how it works...

   Nelson said, we should not be trying to obtain the highest output from the load, but rather be tuning for the best "effect".
This may be true, but, the way I see it, the best effect observed when tuning the device, will give the highest output at the bulbs, although the actual amplitude readings can be lower. 
   Any way, the idea is to get this "effect", in the first place, that will allow the set up to self run, and light some bulbs, etz...
   
   Nelson, what happened is the video when "May Day" was said?  Did it go into a run-away condition?

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« Reply #9769 on: August 02, 2015, 06:24:20 PM »
hi Nelson,

I am curious what the transformer which you used to obtain HV.Is it a high frequency audio transformer or high frequency voltage transformer at 27khz..

I can't help to notice that you used the transformer shield to connect to negative of capacitor in circuit board.

I am not familiar with driving a transformer using less than 10mA to obtain HV and output is a sinewave.....

Hi , the transformer is a ordinary 12v to 220v not any special note about that .  is a common transformer and is not working at 27khz it would burn insulation because 5 state of resonance chaotic mode .  but can be replaced for other type of coils like  grenade style  , you can go higher frequencies without the resonance problems but the tuning it will be more trick. Maybe people need to start with low values output circuits to have something to study and test , and after understand maybe is more easy make heavy units.

Yes the circuit run in less than 10 mA, i want to show to  compare with the actual drivers that people current use , and seems the ratio of output is poor compared with the input .
good luck

nelsonrochaa

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« Reply #9770 on: August 02, 2015, 06:58:21 PM »
  Tomtech:
  I don't fully understand what you are saying.  You asked me if what happens if the 168 turns coil is shorted at the output?
At the moment I can't tell you what happens, as far as consumption goes, because I have not trying to read the draw on anything yet. My scope will be here in about one week, and I'll be able to know more then.
  At least on my system, the bulbs have a lot to do with the way that the output behaves, as well as how different tuning caps affect the output. The amplitude readings do drop with each additional bulb added to the output. This normally normally affects the resonance values, as well. That's why the higher wattage bulbs are important to use, or the resonance factor due to impedence matching will not be available if using the small (25 to 60 watt) bulbs. 
  Only Nelson's device uses the smaller incandescent bulbs, as it may work at a different mode of operation. Such as my Joule Ringer device works, and can light incandescent and CFL bulbs.
    I suspect what Nelson has is something like a Joule Ringer coil (coil under black tape), but, has also obtained a proper loop back to the input side, to allow it to self run.  I guess...  as this is a guessing game, with out it being fully disclosed.
  What he wanted to show us, was the possibilities, but not how it works...

   Nelson said, we should not be trying to obtain the highest output from the load, but rather be tuning for the best "effect".
This may be true, but, the way I see it, the best effect observed when tuning the device, will give the highest output at the bulbs, although the actual amplitude readings can be lower. 
   Any way, the idea is to get this "effect", in the first place, that will allow the set up to self run, and light some bulbs, etz...
   
   Nelson, what happened is the video when "May Day" was said?  Did it go into a run-away condition?


Hi Nick,
Is not a joule ringer :) i know how it work but is not the same thing . When you talk about coil under black tape :
Is only a HV capacitor made by me and if see close with attention is connected to HV radiant output .
When i say that i tuned the circuit to the best output , i talk in relation at limitation of transformer resonance, and the final intent to circuit load and the type of load  .
If i want to concentrate more power in radiant output HV single wire and not in the "hot"  conversion process circuit, i can .
Is the reason for  the circuit is not in full resonance at moment.
 I have much improved ideias for the next circuits and it will depend of the final results on that circuit , because is not finished yet  . 
Only for curiosity can you say to me how much consume your driver hv in circuit ? and how you feed them with the ac dc converter module ?

Nick , i use in to the loads of HV a bulbs of 60w 230AC and the 40W 230AC  and a 60w 230DC motor but in video that i show i  provide DC to bulbs after rectify but the output is AC , but the main propose of this convertor circuit is not running bulbs but a  DC 400V heavy motors only .
See, my path is different but seems in this type of circuits have every time something in common :)

Good luck to your work

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« Reply #9771 on: August 02, 2015, 07:52:01 PM »
  Nelson:
  Ok, thanks for letting us know that what is under the black tape is your homemade capacitor. 
  Did you need to use an oscilloscope or other test instuments to be able to tune your device with?
  Does it overheat those commercial full bridge rectifiers, to convert the AC output to DC, to run a 400v DC motor?
 
   You mentioned, "Only for curiosity can you say to me how much consume your driver hv in circuit ? and how you feed them with the ac dc converter module ?"

  My Kacher driver circuit was set up for 12v, but now is running on 24v. From a 12v, 7ah battery, and a 12v 2 amp wall adapter both in series, for now. The driver is maybe drawing about 3 amps, but I'm not sure.
   The Kacher circuit is not very economical one, in that sense. But, if a device will self run, it doesn't matter much. Or does it?
   My new AC to DC, 24v, 10 amp "el cheapo" power supply unit,  is being delivered to me in one week.
About the same time that my scope is coming, as well.

   My goal is NOT using the LED or CFL bulbs, but being able to light regular 100-500 watts+ incandescent bulbs, while self running. As I love incandescent bulbs, and their warm golden light. 

   Let us know how it goes with your improvements.  Very interesting, so far... keep in touch, please.
 

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« Reply #9772 on: August 02, 2015, 08:22:49 PM »
  Nelson:
  Ok, thanks for letting us know that what is under the black tape is your homemade capacitor. 
  Did you need to use an oscilloscope or other test instuments to be able to tune your device with?
  Does it overheat those commercial full bridge rectifiers, to convert the AC output to DC.

   My goal is not using the LED or CFL bulbs, but being able to light regular 100 watts+ incandescent bulbs, while self running.

   Let us know how it goes with your improvements.  Very interesting, so far...
 

Nick ,
 Without some fundamental tools like a scope  , and signal generator is obvious a complex task but not impossible.
Myself tune some circuits in resonance when i dont have the equipments but seems not ever people able to  ear some frequencies at higher values after 13khz and i ear :) but nothing will substitute the scope and signal generator for this tasks . This is the basic .
A gaussmeter and a luxmeter maybe a good choice too .

The rectifier not heat but certainly not the best choice because we now that higher freq output will result in losses in a typical rectifier to main 50/60hz it will improved in future with adequate rectifiers. 
The max bulb that i test in AC output is halogen 60W bulb at full bright , but in the low voltage output i can use a 120W 12v car bulb without problem at full bright too , only the heat dissipated on bulbs can be a problem to the bulb because the light and heat that radiate is more powerful than the conventional way i measure with a luxmeter to compare with a standard method and are higher output in lux values i think that reason is because this bulbs are not designed to high freq . 
About kacker drive i only see now your values because in the response it cut some part of your response but i think something going on in that katcher circuit. Did the others katcher coil have the same values of consume ? Did the mosfet heat a lot ?





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« Reply #9773 on: August 02, 2015, 08:57:22 PM »
   I don't know about others, and their Kacher drivers, as everyone is using a different set up. I use a transistor for my Kacher driver circuit. But, I think that as we here on this thread are all using a relatively shorter Tesla coil secondary than normally used, the driver requires more amps to push it to the right frequency.  At least it does on mine.
   I've mentioned that the Exciter circuits are much more efficient, drawing much less power, but I think that it takes some amps and not just fluffy voltage to cause the right effect on the Ruslan/Akula devices. As they are higher output devices (up to 4000w output), if you're lucky enough to see it, that is.

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« Reply #9774 on: August 02, 2015, 08:57:30 PM »
 :)
Hi Nelson,

Thank you for share a device that you have a very nice work- congratulates idea!
it seems that the direction that you have planned is a surprising level,I would like to ask how long you worked on overall system?
or in another project you will for some purposes is HV,will serve a useful function?
how long will shine this 60 watt bulb? (without source)  :P

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« Reply #9775 on: August 02, 2015, 09:23:51 PM »
NickZ
 as you can see the cameraman not to burn tester under HV only almost jumped out of the screen ;D
I can not understand this concept of connecting a pancake just one case for real conductor (Erase that it was another invention for transformation) ;)
cool fireworks (Ta.TA.ta) :D

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« Reply #9776 on: August 02, 2015, 09:25:13 PM »
   I don't know about others, and their Kacher drivers, as everyone is using a different set up. I use a transistor for my Kacher driver circuit. But, I think that as we here on this thread are all using a relatively shorter Tesla coil secondary than normally used, the driver requires more amps to push it to the right frequency.  At least it does on mine.
   I've mentioned that the Exciter circuits are much more efficient, drawing much less power, but I think that it takes some amps and not just fluffy voltage to cause the right effect on the Ruslan/Akula devices. As they are higher output devices (up to 4000w output), if you're lucky enough to see it, that is.

Maybe i have luck to one day see reasonable values like you talk , maybe is only a question of design to this output  values  .
See you need a 4000J for second to output in a second the 4000W output not counting with losses, so if you output 400V over 4000W in the resistive load you have to obtain pulses discharges of about 4 amps for second to obtain your 4000W output.
If you use a normal battery under normal circumstances you will need a huge current discharge from battery (166A) and this not explain the output of circuits like akula and others show ... or the caps discharge are not full with normal currents ;) like people expect.


Good luck
 

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« Reply #9777 on: August 02, 2015, 09:32:38 PM »
NickZ
 as you can see the cameraman not to burn tester under HV only almost jumped out of the screen ;D
I can not understand this concept of connecting a pancake just one case for real conductor (Erase that it was another invention for transformation) ;)
cool fireworks (Ta.TA.ta) :D

Actually its me and i take the static discharge on the box :)  . About the pancake is connected on the antenna of radiant output not in the box .
 If you understand portuguese you will see that video is shooted in descontration between  friends and a dedication to a friend mine Helio that are in UK :)
 

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« Reply #9778 on: August 02, 2015, 09:38:03 PM »
:)
Hi Nelson,

Thank you for share a device that you have a very nice work- congratulates idea!
it seems that the direction that you have planned is a surprising level,I would like to ask how long you worked on overall system?
or in another project you will for some purposes is HV,will serve a useful function?
how long will shine this 60 watt bulb? (without source)  :P

Thanks ,

Of course have HV purposes too :) like you talk about the pancake coil i able to connects how many coils i want and rectified to 600v without compromise the other outputs so i think is possible get some usable function .

About the source give your shot ;)

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« Reply #9779 on: August 02, 2015, 10:22:58 PM »

Amazing is the presence of persons from different parts of the world.
language "portuguese" as well as many others are difficult to learn suppose.
Now with your translation: (I do not understand this word) "video is (shooted) in ?descontration?"