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Author Topic: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY  (Read 11868944 times)

verpies

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #840 on: November 21, 2012, 06:22:14 PM »
That doesn't happen very often but this time I agree with 90% of what Сергей just wrote.

Is the -40V negative DC bias on the DSR diode Сергей's personal improvement or was it documented by Russian scientists who are the authors of one of those DSR papers circulating around?


P.S.
A thin wire winding made around the wire connecting pin 4 and 8 of U3 might be an excellent idea to get an isolated trigger signal...yes a winding wound on a wire.

Also, for minimization of the MOSFET oscillation, take a look at the Appendix B in this document and the colored current-loop diagram, attached below.
It would be interesting to calculate the drain dv/dt Limit mentioned on page 2-43 in paragraph A5 of Appendix A, too.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #841 on: November 22, 2012, 02:21:23 AM »
Привет Itsunadze
I have seen you have a problem wit your mosfet. I sugest you to go back on КТ926А

Привет Сергей and all,

part of itsu's problem may be that the oscilloscope is connected to the high voltage across R3 towards the mosfet drain for the purpose of current measurement. Both potentials will quickly change in the moment when the mosfet is switched on. Then the sharp voltage step occurs also on the GND connection and the body of the oscilloscope. This has no direct galvanic connection and is floating against earth potential, but it has parasitic capacitance against earth potential. The whole thing becomes an antenna and sends out wideband spectrum electromagnetic waves that will surely couple back. I always try to measure from real earth potential = GND. Two probes on the oscilloscope can also be set to work as one differential channel when current measurements are required.

I want to understand how DALLY's coax winding works (or is supposed to work), before I go ahead with the soldering iron myself. I spent last night with OCR of the Russian book "Forming nanosecond pulses at high voltage" from 1970 and started translation. But there are too many OCR caused typos, so Google translator does not recognize many words. Correcting them takes a lot of time for me as I am neither a native Russian or English speaker. Месяц Г.А. explains there how to obtain pulses with less than a nanosecond rise time and hundreds of kilovolts (even one million Volt). I post what I have accomplished until now in coax_pulse.rar and will go ahead little by little next days. It seems to go in the direction of a Marx generator built from coax cables, but I am not yet sure.

Regarding the oscillations I post a schematic and photo of the Tesla coil I recently built. There I had a smooth rise time of about 30ns without any extra filters on the gate. The loop length --which verpies says shall be as short as possible (and he is right!)-- was and still is about 35mm (including the resistor). I hope this helps. Otherwise just disregard it.

I found an explaination of Step Recovery Diodes:

http://www.cst.com/Content/Applications/Article/Direct+transient+co-simulation+of+a+Step+Recovery+Diode+%28SRD%29+Pulse+Generator
http://www.cst.com/CMS/images/article420/Voltage%20and%20Current%20versus%20Time%20waveforms.gif

The generator is fed with a nice sine wave of little less than 5Vpp and a length of 17ns = 59MHz. The diode is always conducting even during the time when the voltage is negative. We see the current (red) a bit shifted to the right because of the two coils and the capacitor. Only shortly before the cycle ends the diode SMMD840 suddenly shuts off and causes a sharp pulse of about 500ps rise time. However, it is only 6Vpp. That's a long way to go until we find such diode able to create 1kVpp. Do you know of any SRD that can do this? Perhaps someone who has the Russian diodes at hand can use above mentioned circuit and check whether or not it shows the SDR-effect.

In an article of year 2001 Vitaliy Prokhorenko describes EXPERIMENTAL RESULTS using 1N5408 impulse rectifier diodes (reverse voltage VR=1000V, forward current IF=3A, reverse recovery time trr=200 ns). He got around 1ns and 40Vpp pulses in the best case reported. So I doubt any SRDs, a 1N5408  or even the magic КД226 will do the trick. I think we need something more powerful, to obtain 1kV pulses @ 1 ns. I hope the answer is in the 1970 book. I'll get back to you after I figured out what is suggested there.

kind regards

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #842 on: November 22, 2012, 02:29:11 AM »
It did not go through at once, I had to split the RAR archive.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #843 on: November 22, 2012, 04:35:03 AM »
Waveforms from my autotriggering SassyClassE sstc, feeding 22 volts DC switched by an IRFP450N mosfet to the coil's 5-turn primary. Top trace is the mosfet drain signal showing the Class E waveform, mosfet switching fairly well near zero volts, bottom trace is HV field pickup from scope probe hooked to a bit of aluminum foil, suspended in space about 1/2 meter from coil secondary resonator, show at 200 v/div.
This circuit is simpler than yours, no oscillator needed as it is self-triggering and finds its resonant freq automatically if it's working right. Simpler than your circuit but less stable; it's easy to blow the mosfet. I think yours is better, but less simple. Probably doesn't blow mosfets like mine does, either.


Сергей В.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #844 on: November 22, 2012, 04:39:39 AM »
Привет всем !!

to verpie both :)
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to Alfeen As you have builded Tesla Transformer you have chance to start Energetic Revolution 2012 in Germany :)

As you know Russian it's not be hard to you to understand and build this 7KWatts Fel - Tiger2007 OU Generator based on TT and his standing waves.
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to all
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This is OU Generator. Author is Nikola Tesla. Than 2012 remade by Fela than sucessfull replicated by Tigar2007

Fel has a memeber of Сyberenergy.ru
http://cyberenergy.ru/generator-kapanadze/probnaya-shema-fel-t433-570.html


Input 40-50 Watts
Power from Accumulator 12V
Output 7KWatt
Give a strong interference on TV and Radio

Technical references on the Russian:
http://realstrannik.ru/forum/46-razdel-avtorskix-tem/95155-rabochie-proverennye-sxemy-se.html#95820

For more information you can ask Fela on http://cyberenergy.ru and Tiger2007 on http://realstrannik.ru/
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И так, первое СЕ..

Устройство сделано по схеме Фела в репликации тигер 2007.
Технические характеристики:
- входная мощность – 40-50 ватт
- работает от аккумулятора 12в
- выходная мощность до 7 квт
- дает сильные помехи на теле и радиоприемники.


Устройство состоит из искровика и ТТ.
Сверху вниз:

- метелка из пучка оголенного провода длинной 30-35 см
- метелка соединяется с ВВ с помощью толстого сварочного провода длинной 6-7 метров; верхние 2 метра находятся в пластиковой трубе и установлены вертикально.
- длина ВВ равна 4-м диаметрам каркаса. Каркас диаметром 20 сантиметров, длинной 80 сантиметров, намотан проводом пэв 1мм.
- индуктор около 15- 20 витков, намотан на оправке 30-35 см толстой шинкой.
- внутри катушки ВВ располагается компенсатор в виде ¼ длины катушки ВВ и намотан в другую сторону, нежели ВВ. Он нужен для подстройки системы в резонанс.

Провод заземления подбирается индивидуально, в оригинале – бухта 25 метров толстого провода.
Искровик состоит из пушпула и твс (можно взять тдкс), конденсатор перед разрядником около 100 пикофарад * 10КВ.
Конденсатор после разрядника подбирается индивидуально, до появления возрастающих колебаний.
Затем передвижением катушки компенсатора внутри ВВ в пределах индуктора добиваются возрастания амплитуды в 2 раза + подбор длинны заземляющего провода.
Для пушпула транзисторы любые из серии кт 838 или подобные , сопротивления от 500 ом до 1 ком . Конденсатор фильтра любой больше 1 мкф, дроссель любой . 

Удачи Алфен !! :)

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #845 on: November 22, 2012, 10:01:24 AM »
Some interesting news on Joule ringer thread:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zt5zulKQ1XE&feature=em-uploademail

verpies

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #846 on: November 22, 2012, 06:40:59 PM »
I found an explanation of Step Recovery Diodes:

The generator is fed with a nice sine wave of little less than 5Vpp and a length of 17ns = 59MHz. The diode is always conducting even during the time when the voltage is negative. We see the current (red) a bit shifted to the right because of the two coils and the capacitor. Only shortly before the cycle ends the diode SMMD840 suddenly shuts off and causes a sharp pulse of about 500ps rise time. However, it is only 6Vpp. That's a long way to go until we find such diode able to create 1kVpp. Do you know of any SRD that can do this?
A SRD cannot create 1kVp-p pulse across a 50Ω resistor, however a DSRD can.

Part of itsu's problem may be that the oscilloscope is connected to the high voltage across R3 towards the mosfet drain for the purpose of current measurement. Both potentials will quickly change in the moment when the mosfet is switched on.
In reference to -V1  & -V2, only the potential at the Drain should change quickly because ideally the point +V2B should not move at all as it is bypassed by C2.
« Last Edit: November 22, 2012, 08:39:14 PM by verpies »

verpies

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #847 on: November 22, 2012, 06:59:32 PM »
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verpies

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« Reply #848 on: November 22, 2012, 07:23:53 PM »
I always try to measure from real earth potential = GND.
Because Itsu is using N-Channels MOSFETs that necessitate high-side CSRs, he could connect his +V2B point to earth ground, and use it as his measurement reference point.

Two probes on the oscilloscope can also be set to work as one differential channel when current measurements are required.
Itsu's scope has bad math fuctionality between the channels. It doesn't make differential calculations in the channel amplifiers, it doesn't make calculations on raw A/D Converter outputs - it makes calculations on the screen's pixels :(

I want to understand how DALLY's coax winding works (or is supposed to work), before I go ahead with the soldering iron myself.
The coaxial winding is a very different story from the generation of nanopulses.

Up till now Itsu has achieved 15nS FWHM pulses @ 1.1kV.  I believe that soon he will be able to generate 1nS 1kV pulses across a 50Ω load.
Also we will be able to inject nanopulses into the coaxial cable and these pulses will get reflected back from the far shorted end of the coax, just like it is shown on the animation here.
Because of the short length of the coax compared to the wavelength of the pulse repetition rate (4.6kHz) the reflected pulse will not encounter the next pulse in the coax, and no standing wave will be created with just one reflection.

The biggest question is: How is that nanopulse (and its reflected copy) going to influence anything outside of the coax, if ideally the E&M fields are confined inside the coax?
Maybe the coax will be leaking or the AB Effect is the answer...
« Last Edit: November 22, 2012, 11:36:47 PM by verpies »

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #849 on: November 22, 2012, 09:19:09 PM »

The biggest question is: How is that nanopulse (and its reflected copy) going to influence anything outside of the coax, if ideally the E&M fields are confined inside the coax?
Maybe the coax will be leaking or the AB Effect is the answer...


The same way the outside coils influence everything inside of the coax?
The coax picks up a lot of the voltage from the other coils also.. so why wouldn't it participate the same?
Maybe what goes through the inside doesn't?, maybe it's just the outside reflection backwards that counts... and maybe only the outside is picking up the high voltage drive?

verpies

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #850 on: November 22, 2012, 11:06:01 PM »
The same way the outside coils influence everything inside of the coax?
The coax picks up a lot of the voltage from the other coils also.. so why wouldn't it participate the same?
Maybe what goes through the inside doesn't?, maybe it's just the outside reflection backwards that counts... and maybe only the outside is picking up the high voltage drive?
There is a difference between:
1) A pulse between the inner conductor and outer shield of the coax
2) A pulse between two ends of the inner conductor
3) A pulse between two ends of the outer shield.

Which one were you referring to?

In an ideal coax, the outside influence can happen only in cases 2 & 3.
In case 1, the outside influence can happen only due to coax leakage or the AB Effect, according to the current state of human knowledge.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #851 on: November 22, 2012, 11:57:46 PM »
Привет всем !!
.... to Alfeen As you have builded Tesla Transformer you have chance to start Energetic Revolution 2012 in Germany :) ...

I wish I had this chance, but this tesla coil takes 250W from the mains, makes very hot and dense sparks which can quickly melt 0,5mm copper wire, act as a "burning bush loudspeaker" and in the end wastes almost all of these 250W as heat. Not really an "Energetic Revolution". Some ordinary light bulbs can do this too!  :(

The feljpg_8864669_6350327.jpg you posted is lacking too many details and will hardly allow anybody to do a replication. From the Russian description I gather it worked inside a cage 2 meters in diameter? Can you point me to videos of this device?

Did you download the RAR archive and look into it? What does the guy say about coax cables?
kind regards

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« Reply #852 on: November 23, 2012, 07:16:06 AM »
Making a sniffer loop pickup, we then should be able to find the "leak" point along the coaxial.  This topic at this point seems very close to the "tuned cable that was strung and produced (gathered) energy from the surrounding" that Tesla invented.  I am wondering if imposing a compounded magnetic field (focused) could be made to also be used as a carrier field for the extraction of the energy gained.  It is well known that  sensors made from focused magnetic beam are extremely sensitive to any particles crossing their beam (field).


The ESR problem causing oscillations (resonance) has been the subject of an article I found today at this link.


3rdHarmonic13.56MhzPush-PullClassEAmplifier


Notice the very high efficiency that this circuit was found to obtain in simulations, in the physical prototype this "Q" was not so easily to produce.  It is all explained in the research paper.   





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« Reply #853 on: November 23, 2012, 07:21:06 AM »
The basic suggestion to filter/block the ESR was heavy copper strips shielding the MOSFETS.








If the focused magnetic field is effective at any point to sense the energy, why not place many of the same magnetic field sensors all along the cable and harvest the combined energies?

verpies

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #854 on: November 23, 2012, 08:23:45 PM »
@All

Attached here is an excellent article about MOSFET Driving and oscillations of high-speed SiC MOSFETs (such as the Cree CMF20120D) that is also applicable to Si devices.
I highly recommend studying it, especially Chapters 4, 5, 6.