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Low-Q

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Re: HHO generator as limitless energy
« Reply #30 on: March 15, 2010, 07:03:41 PM »
I have now ordered electronic parts. One part is out of stock but is expected March 31.

I hope this works...

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Re: HHO generator as limitless energy
« Reply #31 on: March 16, 2010, 03:12:37 PM »
you know, i thought of something similar to this before, but i didn't have anything to experiment with and i couldn't find the specific answers i needed


i think a main problem is the purity of water, as well as the separation of the oxygen from the hydrogen

distilled water would work the best, i believe, because all impurities have been removed and i think it takes less energy for the separation process

while the electricity added does separate the oxygen and hydrogen, you need a method of actually separating them from each other


im not sure why hydrogen cars don't just feed the water back to the source, but my guess would be that the water might be "pure" in a chemical sense, but "dirty" when compared to the original source

other than that, the idea is so logical i don't know why it hasn't been done before, looking forward to hearing your results, il be following, sorry to say however i have no personal experience in these so i cant add a whole lot
I don't think that some "dirt" in the water will be a problem compared to the actual problem with emissions from gasoline and diesel. The reason why hydrogen cars is so rare is the oilcompanies! Hydrogen fuel is well known, but I think the technology is held back till the oil is emty...

What should the oilcompanies do when it was known to everyone that you can recycle water, have no emmision whatsoever, close to zero expence in fuel and maintanance? The technology is available and useful for those who live long enough to harness this energy - food poisoning and bullets are effective breaks that prevents further developing of such technology.

You don't need to separate hydrogen and oxygen. The HHO mixdure is already a perfect mixture. However, oxygen is much heavier than hydrogen, so it will be possible to separate them in a quite simple way. If you want to recycle the water steam after combustion, this would be the best way. You will never have to fill up the water tank again.

The engine must be engineered differently because the HHO mixdure burns very fast, so the ignition must happen after the piston has reach the top. Gasoline burns slow, so the ignition must happen before the piston has reached the top. A mixdure of gasoline and HHO will probably require a some later ignition, but not as late as with pure HHO fuel - for hybrid cars.

I will start with a hybrid because it is not possible to delay the ignition enough to run on pure HHO in my car.

Another thing is that old and simple engines have an ignition spark for every revolution. This will ignite the HHO mixdure on its way into the combustion chamber, and the HHO generator with all the tubes will probably explode!! That is however no problem in newer engines with an electronic controlled ignition.

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Re: HHO generator as limitless energy
« Reply #32 on: March 20, 2010, 08:14:16 PM »
It seems to me, the only thing holding back Hydrogen fueled cars is the storage capacity. You'd need a 30,000psi tank to store enough to go as far as you can on a gas tank. So far I've only found 10,000psi available.

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Re: HHO generator as limitless energy
« Reply #33 on: March 21, 2010, 09:52:38 PM »
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It seems to me, the only thing holding back Hydrogen fueled A is the storage capacity. You'd need a 30,000psi tank to store enough to go as far as you can on a gas tank. So far I've only found 10,000psi available.
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Humans landed on the moon in 1969. I cannot see that hydrogen storage should be a problem. The main problem is the oil companies. Another thing is that you can produce your own HHO, let it combust together with water injection. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIx5wmOaWls&feature=related
If you can store a 50 litre tank of water at zero pressure, there is suddenly no problems in storing hydrogen fuel.

Vidar