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Author Topic: Overunity and Magnet motors why I fear it won't work  (Read 9484 times)

Offline Liberty

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Re: Overunity and Magnet motors why I fear it won't work
« Reply #15 on: June 21, 2006, 04:00:17 PM »
Your analogy between a spring and a magnet prevents you from being able to go beyond where you are, and create something that you do not currently have.

  I see major differences between a spring and a magnet, and yet some similarities.  A spring will not attract to another spring at all.  To attempt to simulate this with springs would require physically connecting them together, then applying a force to separate them so they can react and snap back to their original shape, thereby having the appearance of attraction.  For instance, if you place a spring near another spring (in an attempt to attact), nothing happens.  If you place a N pole near enough to a S pole, movement occurs, attraction forces are apparent.  Major difference.  Another major difference is a spring will not induce a current in a wire that passes by.  A magnet will.  Once again, major difference.  Springs and magnets have similarities in some respects, but that is about it.

As far as repel forces go, they are a closer analogy, but again not the same.
If you place a spring near another spring, nothing happens to push them away from each other unless you apply a force to physically push them against each other.  If you place a magnet of the same pole near to another pole without touching, they will push away from each other as long as the extending magnetic fields collide.  A spring does not exibit an exponential style of force as it is compressed, but it is more linear in nature.  A magnetic field does exponentially exhibit increased force as distance is reduced between opposing (repelling) fields, up to the strength of the magnetic field present.

Your theory on work from a magnet is interesting, but I think that if you think about it, there are a few exceptions in the theory.

Magnets are exponential devices, not linear devices.  (For both attract and repel forces).

I have enjoyed discussing this with you, but alas, I must accomplish some things today. 
I wish for you a good day Jake. 

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Re: Overunity and Magnet motors why I fear it won't work
« Reply #16 on: June 21, 2006, 04:42:02 PM »
Just thinking out loud.

It seems arguable (almost intuitively obvious) that a magnet must do a direct conversion from kinetic energy to some other energy, and vice versa, similar to the way that it does a conversion from electrical to magnetic and back.

This being so, kinetic energy is actually directly storable in magnets, similar to how it is stored by elevating an object, or by moving an object, as in a flywheel, or by compressing a spring or a gas, etc.

This gives us another potentially useful way to directly store kinetic energy.

This is surely not a novel concept, but it just struck me, and it is causing me a minor brainstorm.