Author Topic: Global Warming (Read 105566 times)

blueplanet · « **Reply #240 on:** December 11, 2009, 06:57:34 AM »

CO2 and methane emissions are poisonous, in part because they usually carry air mercury. I believe the EPA from the US knows something that the media doesn't tell you.

Mercury from the atmosphere usually comes from the emissions from the combustion facilities. Mercury in air can eventually end up being in an ocean, forming methylmercury. The mercury in the ocean can travel thousands of miles. This means the pollution from the Asia can affect the sea animals in the US and in Europe.

Check out this article:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/05/090501195628.htm

blueplanet · « **Reply #241 on:** December 11, 2009, 07:07:22 AM »

Check out this one as well. This one is about another motive behind the upcoming climate deal:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/feb/20/deal-end-mercury-pollution

Cap-Z-ro · « **Reply #242 on:** December 11, 2009, 12:07:19 PM »

Thanks for those links silver and blue...lots of reading for me tonite.

Regards...

silverfish · « **Reply #243 on:** December 11, 2009, 03:19:44 PM »

Quote from: PaulLowrance on December 09, 2009, 04:30:58 PM

Silliness. Anyone who's looked into the matter and cares to be objective knows how silly that statement is. Numerous times I've quoted NASA as saying that the emails offer absolutely nothing in regards to debunking global warming. Global warming is real. Again, the emails & entire issue has nothing to do with if global warming is real, but how much of it's caused by humanity.

Instead, why don't you post facts instead of this campaign of lies.

Paul

Of course, we know that NASA would never lie to us - about anything.

Competitive Enterprise Institute (CEI) had their attorneys file three Notices of Intent to File Suit against NASA. Chris Horner, representing CEI, said the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies failed to comply with the Freedom of Information Act for the past three years.

silverfish · « **Reply #244 on:** December 11, 2009, 04:30:05 PM »

Quote from: blueplanet on December 11, 2009, 07:07:22 AM

Check out this one as well. This one is about another motive behind the upcoming climate deal:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/feb/20/deal-end-mercury-pollution

Yes. Mercury. It's in the air, it's in the fish we eat, now it's in the vaccines, thanks to wonderful people like Baxter, Novartis and Glaxo Smith Kline - along with toxic adjuvants like petroleum-based squalene adjuvants which cause auto-immune disease and Guille-Barre paralysis, organic brain damage and infertility. While we're on the subject of dangerous pollutants, how about aerosolized depleted uranium, which researchers Leuren Moret and Peter Eyre have demonstrated escapes the battlefield and travels around the planet on prevailing winds, triggering diabetes epidemics and cancer wherever it goes? no mention about this in the mainstream media. How about chemtrails? which Clifford Carnicom has been warning about for years? no mention about this in the mainstream media. How about sodium flourosilicate and stannous sodium flouride, lethal corrosive toxins in our water supply, which the nazis used to pacify inmates in concentration camps, knowing that it reduces initiative, dumbs down populations, calcifies the pineal gland, damages the brain, causing cancer and sterility - and which we are now being told is good for us?
How about lead in petrol? how about aircraft fuel solvents found in the water supply, along with cadmium, lead, mercury, arsenic, pesticides, SSRI antidepressants and oestrogen-mimicking birth pill substances in our water supplies? no mention about this. How about excitotoxins which kill brain cells, like aspartame and MSG which cause obesity and cell mutation?

Our air is being poisoned .Our food is being poisoned. Our water is being poisoned. Genetically modified materials are being allowed to contaminate the food chain, which researchers like Jeffery Smith have shown cause sterility, cancer, and genetic mutation.
Nanotechnology has introduced another dangerous component which is totally unregulated. Yet GM and other horrors are being rubber-stamped by corrupt institutions like the FDA. Can we allow this? can we afford to sit back while the globalists literally our planet and tax us into oblivion?

And yet, we are being told that carbon dioxide - which you exhale every day - which plants ingest and turn into life-giving oxygen - is a dangerous poison.

What's wrong with people? don't you recognize tyranny when you see it?

ACT NOW.

PaulLowrance · « **Reply #245 on:** December 11, 2009, 04:32:58 PM »

Quote from: Loner on December 11, 2009, 05:10:01 AM

1) IF global temps are dropping, on average, then Global warming is NOT part of the discussion. If global temps are rising, then the REASON MUST be determined BEFORE any attempt is made to correct it. (Anyone read the data about general other causes? Just a thought...)

Global temperature is increasing. You can't take an average spanning only a few years because of fluctuations.

Quote from: Loner on December 11, 2009, 05:10:01 AM

2) If Temp Dropping, the idea of trying to lower the CO2 in the atmosphere will automatically MAKE THE PROBLEM WORSE. Unless absolute proof can be put forward, acceptable to ALL involved, the idea of limiting CO2 can only be for other reasons. What those are, are not my place to say.

Green move movement is about reducing ones carbon footprint and helping the natural environment.

Quote from: Loner on December 11, 2009, 05:10:01 AM

4) The ultimate, obvious scam part, even if CO2 were totally responsible. The EPA, in the US, has declared CO2 to be a poisonous gas. This is for both the "Cap and Trade" and internal Tax reasons. (That's on record, and may be looked up... Several years old, too...) Doesn't anyone read anymore? All US businesses will have to pay a tax for the number of employees they have, as well as all persons in the US having to also pay. Remember, CO2 is exhaled by the average human, and THIS IS in the process of being setup as a TAX on all people. Sounds like a "Control" to me, but that is my opinion, and not worth anything. Please ignore that.

You didn't provide a reference. Also, too much of any gas is deadly.

Quote from: Loner on December 11, 2009, 05:10:01 AM

Using the above 3 as a basis for examining the "Motive" behind the CO2 situation, if seems to be too obvious for anyone to accept the BS that has been put forth, unless they have other agenda's.

The only valid motive so far is for Big Oil to kill the green movement.

Quote from: Loner on December 11, 2009, 05:10:01 AM

Can ANYONE say that CO2 is the WORST pollution humans are putting out?

CO2, methane, CO, and many other pollutants.

Paul

Azorus · « **Reply #246 on:** December 11, 2009, 04:35:16 PM »

Paul you didn't provide a reference to your material so it is invalid, sorry.

P.S. where is the address to send you the legal documentation.

PaulLowrance · « **Reply #247 on:** December 11, 2009, 04:39:50 PM »

Quote from: silverfish on December 11, 2009, 03:19:44 PM

Of course, we know that NASA would never lie to us - about anything.

Competitive Enterprise Institute (CEI) had their attorneys file three Notices of Intent to File Suit against NASA. Chris Horner, representing CEI, said the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies failed to comply with the Freedom of Information Act for the past three years.

First of all you provided no references, so I can't take your word for it. And they must be valid references. Also, isn't it a stretch to insinuate that a failure to comply with the Freedom of Information Act means NASA must be a liar? Maybe NASA discovered something they're afraid to reveal.

Paul

PaulLowrance · « **Reply #248 on:** December 11, 2009, 04:45:28 PM »

Quote from: Azorus on December 11, 2009, 04:35:16 PM

Paul you didn't provide a reference to your material so it is invalid, sorry.

I have in previous posts.

Quote from: Azorus on December 11, 2009, 04:35:16 PM

P.S. where is the address to send you the legal documentation.

I don't trust you. You people will have to dig hard to find me. I'll be ready.

Paul

Azorus · « **Reply #249 on:** December 11, 2009, 04:59:09 PM »

Paul,

Just pointing out to other people that may not have followed all of the thread that you generally follow the same pattern of saying to people that do not follow your point of view, you didn't post a link to support your facts so your thread is invalid.

Which for those of you whom have not been following the entire thread Paul will not read it, even if you post a link.

PaulLowrance · « **Reply #250 on:** December 11, 2009, 05:12:50 PM »

Quote from: Azorus on December 11, 2009, 04:59:09 PM

Just pointing out to other people that may not have followed all of the thread that you generally follow the same pattern of saying to people that do not follow your point of view, you didn't post a link to support your facts so your thread is invalid.

The topic of pollutants was discussed not that long ago. And yes, I provided references up the yin yang.

Azorus · « **Reply #251 on:** December 11, 2009, 05:54:14 PM »

Well, at least your not denying the fact that you don't read their link.

silverfish · « **Reply #252 on:** December 11, 2009, 05:58:41 PM »

Quote from: PaulLowrance on December 11, 2009, 04:39:50 PM

First of all you provided no references, so I can't take your word for it. And they must be valid references. Also, isn't it a stretch to insinuate that a failure to comply with the Freedom of Information Act means NASA must be a liar? Maybe NASA discovered something they're afraid to reveal.

Paul

Is that meant to be a wink? or a nod and a wink?

Do contact CEI and ask them if this is correct information.

info@cei.org

CEI

Competitive Enterprise Institute
1899 L St NW
12th Floor
Washington, DC 20036

PaulLowrance · « **Reply #253 on:** December 11, 2009, 06:03:49 PM »

Quote from: Azorus on December 11, 2009, 05:54:14 PM

Well, at least your not denying the fact that you don't read their link.

Who said that? If they provide a link on an interesting topic, then I'll go there.

Quote from: silverfish on December 11, 2009, 05:58:41 PM

Is that meant to be a wink? or a nod and a wink?

Do contact CEI and ask them if this is correct information.

info@cei.org

CEI

Competitive Enterprise Institute
1899 L St NW
12th Floor
Washington, DC 20036

It's not worth it for several reasons. 1) IMO you've clearly demonstrate how biased you are. 2) You've made no point, as a law suite proves nothing until the verdict. 3) Failure for NASA to reveal data does not mean NASA is a liar. Again, if you can provide a valid reference, then great.

blueplanet · « **Reply #254 on:** December 11, 2009, 08:02:52 PM »

Quote from: silverfish on December 11, 2009, 04:30:05 PM

How about lead in petrol? how about aircraft fuel solvents found in the water supply, along with cadmium, lead, mercury, arsenic, pesticides, SSRI antidepressants and oestrogen-mimicking birth pill substances in our water supplies? no mention about this. How about excitotoxins which kill brain cells, like aspartame and MSG which cause obesity and cell mutation?

From my prospective, mercury and Cadmium are the only ones that are worrying. In the case of mercury, the half-life of mercury in the central nervous system can be anywhere between 15 years and 30 years. Because of such a long half-life, mercury is bioaccumulative in our bodies and can remain in the nerve tissues forever. Of all the metals that you have mentioned, mercury is only one that can cause direct damage to the nerve tissues.

It is not just the fishes that become the victims of mercury poisoning. Elemental mercury can end up being in our lungs. Unlike inorganic mercury, elemental mercury in the blood stream can reach the brain by way of blood circulation, causing damage to the nerve tissues.

Arsenic is another metal that can produce similar symptoms of mercury poisoning. It can be found in pesticides. But the half-life of arsenic in our bodies is less than 3 hours. This means that at least half of the absorbed arsenic would be excreted out of the body within three hours.

Lead is not as toxic as mercury. And its half-life in blood is approximately 25 days; in soft tissue, about 40 days; and in bone, more than 25 years. Lead is not a potent neurotoxin, but some scientists suggest that lead can cause cognitive decline. If this is the case, then the upcoming climate deal is justified.

Cadmium is very toxic (but not neurologically toxic). Its presence in the human body can raise the serum GGT, which means the body would become more mercury-toxic. Its half-life can be anywhere between 6 and 38 years. But I think we should blame the smokers, not the environment.

I stand to be corrected.

(EDIT: I don't think oestrogen is a toxin. I believe it can mask the effects of mercury poisoning. I might be wrong. Aspartame, MSG, and Excitotoxins are not pollutants. I can't comment.)

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