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IotaYodi

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Bench Observation of Em fields
« on: November 11, 2009, 05:39:47 AM »


Some of these effects are already known but some of them arent to me. Like the Wooden bench top.

I am using a Fluke 87v meter with 4 foot probes placed a foot from the wall. This picks up the 60hz house wiring. Both probes just lay on the bench not connected.
 
 Fluorescent light off mode. Just the Em field from the house wiring being used to pick up Voltage along with any Voltage that the meter may introduce from its battery.

With the light off and meter turned on I have 8Mv.
Placing one finger flat on the bench with no pressure in front of the probes the Voltage rises to 50.8 Mv.
Placing my hand flat on the bench with no pressure in front of the probes  the Voltage rises to 63.4 Mv.
As I increase the distance from the probes with my finger or hand on the bench the Voltage decreases as expected.
If I apply pressure with either finger or hand the Voltage rises slightly.
All this applys to both the top and bottom of the bench.

 
Fluorescent light on mode. Both House wiring and fluorescent light contribute to Voltage.

No finger or hand on bench the Voltage is 23.8 Mv.
With hand flat on Bench the Voltage is 97Mv.

Copper wire mode #1. Fluorescent light is on.

I hooked the + probe to 10 feet of #14 bare copper wire. The Negative just lays on the bench.
The Voltage on wire is .76 Volts.
When I grasped the wire the Voltage rose to 1.85 Volts.

Copper wire mode #2. Fluorescent light is on.
About 5 minutes later I turned the meter back on.
Voltage on wire was 1.02 Volts. Grasped wire and Voltage rose to 2.06 Volts. Let go of wire and placed hand on bench and Voltage dropped to .577 Volts. Turned off meter.

About a half hour later turned meter back on and grasped the wire and the Voltage was 2.30 Volts. I then disconnected the Negative probe from the meter and the Voltage dropped to 420 Mv on the Copper wire.

 Im seeing the wire charging up a little over time. The electromagnetic fields introduced into the meters circuitry, probes,bench top (cellulose), from the 60Hz wiring, along with the electronic ballast em field and frequency seem to be doing this. Thats a lot of stray fields fluctuating in intenisty,area and time. I thought about Jennas joule thief experiments with pulsed dc. I would think Every little wire,component lead,and surrounding enviroment would affect each other in the same manner until a balance is maintained.

 


jeanna

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Re: Bench Observation of Em fields
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2009, 07:47:56 PM »
Oh my goodness!
Thanks IotaYodi for this.
It is surely important.

Your pic describes a battery run meter??
Your pic answers all the questions I had.

Is this is the house or garage?
I am asking because I wonder what happens if you flip the circuit breakers off . Or someday when the grid power is off if these things will continue? (next time a hurricane does the deed, check it out?)

What I have seen repeatedly is a 60hz sinewave which is stronger when the cfl on the table is on, and also when the battery charger is connected to the scope.
It makes me know that even though there should be no effect from the wall, there is.
When the battery charger is just filling the batteries and the batteries, not the wall, are making the scope work, there should be zero 60hz sinewave, but it is there.

I tend to make very little of these things that are very low voltage because of this.

However, when I was viewing the stubblefield coils that were being stimulated by the jt, the effect would go to zero when I moved away from the jt, so I know that was a true effect.

Recently, I have become lazy about recharging my batteries and I am just using the scope from the batteries while the plug is recharging them (like the laptop). And, I unplug this when I am not too sure, or if the volts are very low.

Thank you for doing this. I will refer to it.
Also, it was a good idea to make a separate thread so we can find it and do some follow ups.

jeanna

IotaYodi

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Re: Bench Observation of Em fields
« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2009, 09:18:07 PM »
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Your pic describes a battery run meter??
Yes. Its a Fluke 87v true rms meter. Heres the specs of the meter.
http://www.myflukestore.com/p1393/fluke_87-v.php?p_tab=specs

I did this in my garage and yes the 60hz signal along with the voltage stops when the breaker is off.
I have to back the meter off to about 3 feet from the wall before the 60 hz Ac signal starts to rapidly fluctuate. The amount of Em radiation in standard house wiring has been known for years. Its quite a bit but I guess they consider it safe.

Electronic ballasts can do strange things. Ive had to troubleshoot multiple sets of lights on the same circuit where they either didn't work or only a few worked. Its a pain to track down as even a light that is working can have a bad ballast. I dont know myself as why this happens. I suspect some kind of frequency feedback.

 What caught my attention the most was the wooden bench top&bench bottom and the distance of the extended Em field through it from the probes and/or the ballast. Plus the charge that seemed to be induced into the wire.
Frank 

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Re: Bench Observation of Em fields
« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2009, 10:24:50 PM »
I agree.
It is very interesting about the wooden bench.

I remember in my beginning days in the earth battery thread when I was trying to learn so much all at once, I grabbed hold of both probes with 2 hands.. ie one probe in each hand, and saw a reading of 0.9v. I was astonished, and then later it went down.
This is easily explained as our bodies are making chemical electricity all the time.
But to have voltage only show up when you touch the wooden bench is very interesting.

I wonder if you made a coil of the wires and wrapped it/them around a welding rod (soft iron)  if it would increase the 2.3v even more?

Could you make back spikes using only your hands?
Wow if so.

thank you,

jeanna

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Re: Bench Observation of Em fields
« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2009, 01:13:36 AM »
@IotaYodi

I would also like to thank you for your investigation into this question. This basically confirms that anyone doing low voltage OU works will have to take this into account, as would any other serious researcher having to work with blind studies, placebo comparisons, etc.

Another member @EMDevices is presently showing something in the same line that you may find interesting. It is located here.
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8245.0

Thanks again.