I can help if you want dole's cold stuff. Let me know

Penno

I'd like to replicate Doles cold circuit.
Please send me information like schematic, parts list, etc. so i can replicate it.

Thank you

DonL

Hi Ghost_rider,

If someone just made that up, any chance you could set the record straight then? Also, do you understand the principle of operation of TK's device? If so, what is it?

what means record straight?  All device use mass force.  You make mass move and make force.

Yes Tesla talk about two kinds current and tuning to change ratio.  Erik Dallard say is huge displacement current in Tesla Magnifying transmitter.  Floid Sweet VTA though to have huge cold current when wire get frozen.  Tariel device show no frozen wires.  Cold current is not source of energy and is just effect.

  I'm sorry but NO. Tesla absolutely says the opposite and mentions no such thing as "cold current" - ever:

"But if we speak of electricity, meaning a thing, we must, I think, abandon the idea of two electricities, as the existence of two such things is highly improbable. For how can we imagine that there should be two things, equivalent in amount, alike in their properties, but of opposite character, both clinging to matter, both attracting and completely neutralizing each other? Such an assumption, though suggested by many phenomena, though most convenient for explaining them, has little to commend it. If there is such a thing as electricity, there can be only one such thing, and, excess and want of that one thing, possibly; but more probably its condition determines the positive and negative character." (EXPERIMENTS WITH ALTERNATE CURRENTS OF VERY HIGH FREQUENCY AND THEIR APPLICATION TO METHODS OF ARTIFICIAL ILLUMINATION - 1891-05-20)

     Please do not use other "writings" as references which are NOT Tesla's original words or publications. They would like you to believe lala stuff, but what Tesla said is not what they want you to believe. Of course, it sells books - but this does not mean it's original or true.

    A negative resistance is not cold current and is a misinterpreted effect. There is no such thing as "cold current". There is only one type of current, and that is created by a moving charge (which in turn MUST create an EM field - a law of nature). Stick to the original sources and not some pseudo-science interpretations by wannabes. If there is a decrease in temperature of some area of a semiconductor it is due to a "Peltier" or thermo-electric effect, which is prefectly explainable with classical physics.
The sooner you rid yourself of the "cold electricity" theory, the safer you will be.

   I'm sorry to be so incisive, but this is the mother of all false and misleading concepts in electrical current created by intentional misinformers, speculators and delusion. It is one of those false postulates that if accepted, will set you so far away that your reasoning will be permanently skewed.

Core, are you referring to me?

  I'm sorry but NO. Tesla absolutely says the opposite and mentions no such thing as "cold current" - ever:

"But if we speak of electricity, meaning a thing, we must, I think, abandon the idea of two electricities, as the existence of two such things is highly improbable. For how can we imagine that there should be two things, equivalent in amount, alike in their properties, but of opposite character, both clinging to matter, both attracting and completely neutralizing each other? Such an assumption, though suggested by many phenomena, though most convenient for explaining them, has little to commend it. If there is such a thing as electricity, there can be only one such thing, and; excess and want of that one thin, possibly; but more probably its condition determines the positive and negative character." (EXPERIMENTS WITH ALTERNATE CURRENTS OF VERY HIGH FREQUENCY AND THEIR APPLICATION TO METHODS OF ARTIFICIAL ILLUMINATION - 1891-05-20)

     Please do not use other "writings" as references which are NOT Tesla's original words or publications. They would like you to believe lala stuff, but what Tesla said is not what they want you to believe. Of course, it sells books - but this does not mean it's original or true.

    A negative resistance is not cold current and is a misinterpreted effect. There is no such thing as "cold current". There is only one type of current, and that is created by a moving charge (which in turn MUST create an EM field - a law of nature). Stick to the original sources and not some pseudo-science interpretations by wannabes. If there is a decrease in temperature of some area of a semiconductor it is due to a "Peltier" or thermo-electric effect, which is prefectly explainable with classical physics.
The sooner you rid yourself of the "cold electricity" theory, the safer you will be.

   I'm sorry to be so incisive, but this is the mother of all false and misleading concepts in electrical current created by delusion. It is one of those postulates that if accepted, will set you so far away that your reasoning will be permanetly skewed.

First off, in 1891, x-ray had not even been invented yet. In 1891, Tesla, who researched cold electricity had no clue about accelerators. I think I can form my own thoughts based on my own experience.

Here are some Tesla quotes to help you put him into perspective:

Now, I must tell you of a strange experience which bore fruit in my later life. ... We had a cold [snap] drier that ever observed before. People walking in the snow left a luminous trail behind them and a snowball thrown against an obstacle gave a flare of light like a loaf of sugar hit with a knife. [As I stroked] Mačak's back, [it became] a sheet of light and my hand produced a shower of sparks. ... My father ... remarked, this is nothing but electricity, the same thing you see on the trees in a storm. My mother seemed alarmed. Stop playing with the cat, she said, he might start a fire. I was thinking abstractly. Is nature a cat? If so, who strokes its back? It can only be God, I concluded. ...
I cannot exaggerate the effect of this marvelous sight on my childish imagination. Day after day I asked myself what is electricity and found no answer. Eighty years have gone by since and I still ask the same question, unable to answer it.
— Nikola Tesla


The idea of atomic energy is illusionary but it has taken so powerful a hold on the minds, that although I have preached against it for twenty-five years, there are still some who believe it to be realizable.
— Nikola Tesla

I could not agree with you anymore here. Unfortunately the book ' Secrets of Cold War Technology' by Gerry Vassilatos is nothing but fiction. As an example there is no such thing as Tesla's Stout copper wire circuit. That circuit is called 'Lecher arrangement' Tesla did not create it as mentioned in the book. Lecher advanced the study of the Hertz resonator along with a few others. It is a bit of a disgrace for some to take Lecher's hard work and give the credit to Tesla. An even bigger disgrace is calling it the 'Hairpin' that's just plain queer.

Respectfully,

Core

   Additionally, I wrote a paper called "debunking Vassilatos" with all the references some years ago specifically against the false statements made in that book that shows how Vassilatos blatantly inserted false information to create the base of a whole theory from thin air which has no resemblance to the truth. If anyone is interested I have attached it FYI. Be aware that Peter Lindemann is into the same ship aswell.

Here are some Tesla quotes to help you put him into perspective:

Now, I must tell you of a strange experience which bore fruit in my later life. ... We had a cold [snap] drier that ever observed before. People walking in the snow left a luminous trail behind them and a snowball thrown against an obstacle gave a flare of light like a loaf of sugar hit with a knife. [As I stroked] Mačak's back, [it became] a sheet of light and my hand produced a shower of sparks. ... My father ... remarked, this is nothing but electricity, the same thing you see on the trees in a storm. My mother seemed alarmed. Stop playing with the cat, she said, he might start a fire. I was thinking abstractly. Is nature a cat? If so, who strokes its back? It can only be God, I concluded. ...

I have never heard this story but a similar one I have. About 4 or 6 weeks ago I was watching Discovery channel the program was about a very dry summer that occurred in the 'Mid-west' (US). It was so dry that sparks would shoot off the barb wires fences right to ground. You could not touch anything metal for fear of getting a bad shock. Unfortunately I can not remember the actual name of the program at this time I will have to Google it to site a reference.

Respectfully,

Core