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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 16603678 times)

Fabon

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #23175 on: July 28, 2023, 07:50:20 PM »
Quote from: forest on July 28, 2023, 07:38:27 PM

Could someone download it and post in other place ? I don't have telegram in ubuntu.

- So that you don't have much trouble with it, I've uploaded it the old and tried and tested way; however, access is restricted by a link:
(If someone's "heavy tractor" hits me hard, everything will be promptly deleted!..)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qk6mC2lxMs
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pix

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #23176 on: July 28, 2023, 07:53:57 PM »
Quote from: forest on July 28, 2023, 07:37:05 PM
Pix


I agree if the current is from ground, in other words if this system is open like in patent I posted lately. There is voltage difference between ground and above ground  and seems that clever build tesla coil can imitate long antenna without going very high.
Different things.
In quoted patent an atmospheric voltage difference changes are utilised, 100V/m by just switching on/off ground switch. Electric field lines are "dancing" and induce currents in conductors. I am not sure what kind of power you can get out of it.
In Tesla style resonant system- source amplitude is trapped into additive scenario at secondary coil, and we have an extra voltage gain compared to "normal" transformer action.
That "extra" voltage we just step down in normal transformer way, and we have a "extra" current in exchange of that "extra" voltage.


Cheers,
Pix
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stivep

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #23177 on: July 29, 2023, 01:44:51 AM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qk6mC2lxMs
The answer is: impedance match.
The output from generator is 50 Ohm
 impedance of LED is:
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At the transition point about 12MHz, the AC impedance is pure resistance at a value of near 1.5Ω. Moreover,
the AC impedance spectrum of the LED tends to shift towards the lower frequency with the larger received optical power.
some more or less is here:https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1709/1709.05921.pdf
Output of generator is 20V
if LED needs 12 V you can increase current  by ~x2 .


Frequency used is 4MHz - but in square  wave.
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A square wave is a non-sinusoidal periodic waveform in which the amplitude alternates at a steady frequency between fixed minimum and maximum values, ..
made from  number of sinusoidal waveforms.
At given  power in W and 20V you can calculate  current that  generator or  power supply must supply - but  what if not?
Using transformer  to lower the voltage increases the  current. P= U x I
1W=20Vx 0.05A
1W=12Vx 0.08 A
1W=6V  x 0.16 A
Example: LED working on 2.72V  may take current of 3A
but is very bright at 1A too.
Typical Generator gives not less than 2W usually 3W
3W=2.72Vx 1.1A
so having 2.72V at the output of the transformer make LED work well
or just  give it  little more V and less current if you will.

 :)

Coil assembly on the picture is a step down transformer impedance matching
of a complex harmonic product  as in the output of the transformer you no longer  have  square wave but more like  sine  wave distorted.
That is why LED at the output of that transformer is powered with   lower voltage and higher current.
That is   entire explanation.
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As far as claimed  in  video 1/2  Y lambda resonance...
Well at 4MHz the length of the wire for  1/2 Y in the "long" coil had to be37m and 47 cm.
and it is not.( the  actual coil length at ~80 winds  5cm per wind is only   4m)
but even if he had (actual coil length at ~80 winds  10cm per wind is only 8m)
The gentleman  on that video didn't show the generator screen when LED is ON.
He had oscilloscope next to the generator but he "decided" not to show us the output curve. :)
Wesley
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Fabon

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #23178 on: July 29, 2023, 08:42:30 AM »
 ;D Apparently Kapanadze's 5 kilowatt lamps shone solely from impedance! ;D
;D The clear culprit is impedance! ;D
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stivep

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #23179 on: July 29, 2023, 01:51:53 PM »
Quote from: Fabon on July 29, 2023, 08:42:30 AM
;D Apparently Kapanadze's 5 kilowatt lamps shone solely from impedance! ;D
 ;D The clear culprit is impedance! ;D
The total impedance value :
-is to be understood as a resistance of ~0.7 Ohm in that particular coil assembly  making that step down transformer
plus inductive reactance in the actual wire  gauge ~12
plus small capacitive reactance between winds.  that is approximately ADDITIONAL 13.55%
 or if we take actual 2.72V for LED we'll get 13.6%
https://www.electrical4u.net/transformer/transformer-impedance-calculator/

The quoted old book doesn't use  word "impedance"  highly likely not known yet at that time,  to the author if it.
- and again no book name no author  is given to us by the poster :) ...as always.
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How  and why Tariel device works was described by me in my builders board section.
Wesley
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #23180 on: July 29, 2023, 02:15:28 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #23181 on: July 29, 2023, 03:04:23 PM »
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Fabon

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #23182 on: July 29, 2023, 04:42:39 PM »
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stivep

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #23183 on: July 29, 2023, 05:00:01 PM »
Video #2  :

Quote from: Fabon on July 29, 2023, 03:04:23 PM
;) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCH59Fkl5R4
The quoted video says:Transcript in English:
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Well hi once again, basically all becomes clear what's what, and role of (aluminum) foil,
and why  neon lightbulb  lights up when touched,  with  finger,
but when I touch and move my finger over the coil nothing changes.
For those who are interested in energy consumption - it is all  not important  crap, that doesn’t matter to us - the main thing to get the effect itself.
Note: translation is absolutely accurate - modified to English reader.



and link to the previous video #1 is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qk6mC2lxMs
Wesley
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Fabon

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #23184 on: July 29, 2023, 05:11:37 PM »
 :) Well, what much does this post above suggest!??....
  ::) Bunk, has developed a large number of these reels, many of them patented!.....

Regards!
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stivep

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #23185 on: July 29, 2023, 05:15:35 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #23186 on: July 29, 2023, 05:26:21 PM »
Most readers have little interest in patents …names etc etc
If an “effect”is shown ( which is previously not understood )


It would be good to place for scrutiny ( by those readers who build)
Dogone is quite familiar ( as are many other builders) with these systems


I know he had agreed to help
A place waits for that ( a moderated ( Dogone moderator) topic as yet unopened )
He is doing some legwork and pondering…


Just viewing images and info … many builders can comment or experiment !


Nothing ventured
Nothing gained
Forward please …



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stivep

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #23187 on: July 29, 2023, 05:32:38 PM »
I do not scrutinize BUNK at all. I do show  full respect.
It is absolutely  proper analysis done by highly skilled professional in that particular field of expertise
and ready  for challenge here by anyone including Dogone.


That is the main goal of this forum with no left or right drift on it.
Wesley
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ramset

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #23188 on: July 29, 2023, 05:43:26 PM »
The open source FE community
Has no lack of experience, if every post is like interrogation or scrutiny of semantics ( semantics from perspective of builder/researcher)
It slows progress considerably!


If there is genuine previously overlooked (gain) mechanism..
It needs time to explain or explore ..
We don’t need the usual ( what we can find in the books)
We need the unusual ..


This appears as a slow motion flamewar trying to control itself ( until once again Stefan has to get involved)
As mentioned
Dogone is taking time to plan the course of action in new builder/researcher topic
Hopefully there is merit..



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stivep

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #23189 on: July 29, 2023, 05:48:02 PM »
Quote from: ramset on July 29, 2023, 05:43:26 PM
The open source FE community
Has no lack of experience, if every post is like interrogation or scrutiny
Again I do not  do any of that at all.
No scrutiny no interrogation  no claims
I do show mechanism of connection and  its role in the presented system and how do I see it.
Just professional analysis according to  main goal of this forum.
Full respect to all participants including BUNK
Please feel free to challenge me  anyone out there if you  like it.
Wesley
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