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Title: IST SHIFT COIL
Post by: innovation_station on May 18, 2009, 02:40:27 AM
THIS IS THE SHIFT COIL

IST
Title: Re: IST SHIFT COIL
Post by: innovation_station on May 18, 2009, 02:50:11 AM
I STARTED THIS HERE AS IT BELONGS HERE ....   


IT WILL BE POWERED FROM A MK2 JT
 
30VDC.. AND A MOSFET WOULD BE IDEAL  BUT I WILL SETTLE FOR 12DC AND A 3055 AND I WILL RECOVER FIRST COIL TO CAP TO POWER ALL OTHERS ...


IST!
Title: Re: IST SHIFT COIL
Post by: jeanna on May 18, 2009, 03:46:52 AM
Hi IST,
It will be powered by MK2 or it is a MK2?
It looks very promising.

Keep up the good work!

Shift as in rotating?

jeanna
Title: Re: IST SHIFT COIL
Post by: innovation_station on May 18, 2009, 04:04:54 AM
IT IS  GOING TO BE POWERED WITH A MK2 1 " COIL THE CAP WILL POWER THIS COIL .

THE COIL IS TUNED MASS TO MASS  LOW SELFINDUCTANCE HIGHER SELFINDUCTANC

THIS WILL REMOVE THE NEED OF THE RESISTOR AS WELL IT IS A CHOKE THERE A MILLION WAYS THIS CAN AND WILL WORK

BUT IM AIMING FOR A SELF RUNNER ... FROM A SINGLE CHARGE ..

FROM THE MK2 JT ..  ;D

I WAS THINKING OF ADDING MORE OF THE SAME ...

IST!
Title: Re: IST SHIFT COIL
Post by: innovation_station on May 18, 2009, 04:07:15 AM
THIS IS MUCH LIKE A MOT AND NEOZAP COULD BE ADDED  ;)

IST!
Title: Re: IST SHIFT COIL
Post by: innovation_station on May 18, 2009, 04:13:15 AM
WHAT I BELEAVE TO HAPPEN IN THIS UNIT AS SHOWEN WHEN THE PRIMARY IS

POWERED AND INTRURPTED AT ITS NATURAL RUNNING FREQ.. 

THE KICK WILL BE FORCED BACK INTO THE DRIVEING CAP CHARGEING HIGHER IN VOLTAGE...

THUSS RUNNING WITH GAIN ...

SO THE FOLOWING DUMP WILL BE OF MUCH HIGHER VOLTAGE..   

TO THE PRIMARY AND IF THE CHOKE COIL IS NOT ENOUGH RESISTANCE USE A RELAY COIL ....



IST

To understand the action of the local condenser E in fig.2 let a single discharge be first considered. the discharge has 2 paths offered~~ one to the condenser E the other through the part L of the working circuit C. The part L  however  by virtue of its self induction  offers a strong opposition to such a sudden discharge  wile the condenser on the other hand offers no such opposition ......TESLA..
Title: Re: IST SHIFT COIL
Post by: jeanna on May 18, 2009, 04:24:08 AM
Have you found its natural running frequency?

I am winding a very big core today. It may be the same size as yours. Its frequency is naturally a lot slower. I expected this, but it is a lot. (17KHz at 1000 ohm base resistance) .  I hope I can get enough voltage from 240 turns to keep the voltage high enough when I up the base resistor to raise the frequency.
I like the plan to snap the cap at the rate of the MK2 pulses. Good idea.

jeanna
Title: Re: IST SHIFT COIL
Post by: innovation_station on May 18, 2009, 04:29:49 AM
TY JEANNA

BUT I DONT WANT A RESISTOR ON IT I DONT THINK ....  NATURAL .... 


 ;D


THE CHOKE DETURMAINS HOW MUCH IT USES ...  ADD MORE AS YOU SEE FIT ... THIS IS 1 TO 1

IT SHOULD BE OR IT COULD BE ...   LOL   369


OR 1 2 3 IF YOU LIKE X THE MASS OF THE PRIMARY ...

IST!

OR YOU COULD GO 3 6 9 X THE LENGTH AS LONG AS THE GAGE IS THE SAME ...

IF I DO PUT A RESISTOR I WILL USE SOMETHING LIKE 1 OHM 5 WAT OR SO TO PORTECT THE TRANSISTOR ..
Title: Re: IST SHIFT COIL
Post by: innovation_station on May 18, 2009, 05:06:10 AM
 FOR THOSE THAT FIND AN INTREST IN MY COILS HERE ARE THE DETAILS...

50" 14 GA 10 T P 24.5 G AND 265 T 28 GA 24.5 G 180 DEG OF SEPERATION

 STANDARD MK2 LITZ WIRE PICKUPS...

IST UNPLUGGED ... :)
Title: Re: IST SHIFT COIL
Post by: jeanna on May 18, 2009, 05:19:00 AM
The resistor I refer to is in the MK2 first coil set up as a joule thief.

Then it is collected in a cap then the cap discharges into the one you have there and that discharge is the frequency that has no resistor.

Did I get that right?

jeanna
Title: Re: IST SHIFT COIL
Post by: innovation_station on May 18, 2009, 05:27:19 AM
The resistor I refer to is in the MK2 first coil set up as a joule thief.

Then it is collected in a cap then the cap discharges into the one you have there and that discharge is the frequency that has no resistor.

Did I get that right?

jeanna

SOUNDS LIKE A GREAT DESCRIPTION ... 

 ;D

THANKS ....  SIS

 ;D

IST!
Title: Re: IST SHIFT COIL
Post by: innovation_station on May 18, 2009, 04:53:46 PM
NOW WE CAN LOOK AT THIS UNIT IN A DIFFRENT LIGHT ....

TRY IT !!

WE HAVE A MOTOR ...  THIS MOTOR REQUIRES A STARTER ..  8)

SO THE MK2 JT WILL BE THE STARTOR MOTOR   IT WILL CRANK OVER  UNTILL THE CAP IS FULL ENOUGH TO POWER THE MOTOR GENERATOR COIL  {THE LARGE COIL} LOL

THEN THE LARGE COIL WILL COMPOUND THE FLYBACK IN THE DRIVEING CAP AS SOON AS THIS HAS TAKEN PLACE  THE STARTER MOTOR IS NO LONGER NEEDED .. AS THE COIL WILL SELF FEED ..

THEN YOUR OU PUT ARE THE COILS WOUND OVER ALL OTHERS ..

 ;D

IST!
Title: Re: IST SHIFT COIL
Post by: innovation_station on May 19, 2009, 02:59:19 AM
JUST SINCE I ALWAYS ADD MORE TO THE THING THAN REQUIRED ... LOL


I WILL DO THIS UNIT LIKE THIS

THERE WILL BE 3 MK2 CRIDDERS ..  I HOPE TO RUN ALL 3 FROM THE SAME BATTERY ..

THEN THERE WILL BE 6 CAPS ..  AS EACH MK2 UNIT NEEDS 2 AND THERE 2 BRIDGES IN EACH .. 

SO THE CAPS WILL BE CHARGED FROM THE MK2 1 FROM EACH SIDE I WOULD LIKE TO COMBINE THE 2 CAPS ON EACH MK2 TOGATHER TO DUBBLE THE VOLTAGE AVABIL TO THE NEXT COIL ..  SO I WILL HAVE 3 FEEDS FOR MY SH!FT COIL 

THEN I HAVE THEASE RAMMA CHASERS THEY ARE 3 CHANNEL ..  THEASE WILL TRIGGER THE NATURAL RUNNING FREQS OF THE SHIFT COILS AND CAUSE ROTATION IN THE SHIFT COIL

THE COIL AS SHOWEN ON PAGE 1 IS 1 COIL PAIR .. THERE WILL BE A TOTAL OF 6 COILS ON THIS RING  THE MAGNETICS WILL BE FORCED ROUND AND ROUND .. AND IN BETWEEN THE  PULSE COILS WILL BE 6 MK2 TWISTED LITZ STYLE PICKUPS... 

IST!
Title: Re: IST SHIFT COIL
Post by: innovation_station on May 19, 2009, 07:03:35 AM
WARNING!!   

WHAT IM GOING TO SHOW NEXT IS...

DANGER US

BE WIZE!!

I HAVE SOME 500V DC CAPS ...   6 OF THEM ..  I MAY CHOOSE TO CHARGE THEM FROM THE MK2'S AND IF SO ...  I WILL DISCHARGE THEM ...  TO THE SHIFT COIL ..

I HAVE SOME 500VAC 3 PHASE RELAYS .. I MAY USE 1 OF THEM ...  THEY ARE 60 HZ  FIRED BY A 12 VOLT PULSE TRAIN ..... 

IF YOU ATEMPT ANY OF THIS ... 

I HOLD NO RESPONCEABILTY

IST

ILL ADD SOME PICS SOON OF THE MATERIALS I MAY USE ...



Title: Re: IST SHIFT COIL
Post by: innovation_station on May 19, 2009, 08:05:31 PM
HERE ARE THE MK2 CRIDDERS ...  ;D

1 IS ALMOST FINISHED AND THE OTHER 2 BOARDS ARE DONE JUST NEED TO WIND THE COILS ...

I HAD TO START OVER WITH MY TOROIDES AS I DONT HAVE ANY ALL WERE SENT TO NEW YORK FOR TESTING...  THEY TAKE AND GIVE YOU NOTHING ....  I GAVE ALL MY PICTURED COILS ALL THROUGH THE JOULE THEIF THRED ...

AND B4 I SENT THEM I SAID I NEED TO BE PAID FOR MY WORK ...  BUT NO MONEY FOR IT

ALL I KNOW ...  LOL

SO NOW YOUR CUT .... YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE ...   FUNNY THING ... LOL

ALL CURCUITS WERE BLOWEN WHEN THEY ARRIVED ...  ;D :D

GUESS WHY ...   THE X- RAY OF COURSE ....  ;)

HENCE WHY HE GOT THEM AIR MAIL ....  ;)

BUILD YOUR OWN ....  LOL

SO YA I NEEDED TO RE STOCK MY MATERIALS AND START OVER ONCE AGIN .... JUST THIS TIME I GOT TO START FROM NOTHING ...

SO B IT  I WILL SLOWLY RELEASE ALL MY WORK PUBLIC AS THE GUYS WITH THE DOW NEVER PAY...

HENCE TESLA WANTED IT FOR EVERYONE NOT JUST A SELECT FEW ...   ;)

IST!

Title: Re: IST SHIFT COIL
Post by: stprue on May 19, 2009, 08:57:19 PM
Very nice set up!  How many turns up and down are you using?  WHat's the output of each you will be using in your set-up.  I'm excited to see what's next. 

Great stuff happening here 8)
Title: Re: IST SHIFT COIL
Post by: innovation_station on May 20, 2009, 06:41:53 PM
Very nice set up!  How many turns up and down are you using?  WHat's the output of each you will be using in your set-up.  I'm excited to see what's next. 

Great stuff happening here 8)

THANK YOU STPRUE!

I WAS THINKING BOUT THIS UNIT SOME WHAT AND  IT APEARS TO BE A TIME DIFFRENCIAL DEVICE ...  MEANING   THE MK2'2 RUN AT A HIGH SPEED  AND THE SHIFT COILS ARE RAN AT A MUCH SLOWER SPEED  ALLOWING BUFFER TIME ... IN THE CAPS 

IST!

AGIN THIS LITTLE PROBLEM ARIZES ...  TOOOOO MANY PATHS ....   

THIS UNIT AS PER ORIGINAL DESIGN    IS SELF RUNNING ...  SO THE TIME DIFFRENCIAL  IS NOT REQUIRED BUT TO START IT ...
Title: Re: IST SHIFT COIL
Post by: innovation_station on May 21, 2009, 12:35:41 AM
HERE ARE A FEW PICS I FOUND AS A GOOD SUPPLY FOR PARTS...  8)

INCLUDING MY 6 500VDC CAPS ..

IST!
Title: Re: IST SHIFT COIL
Post by: innovation_station on May 23, 2009, 02:04:28 PM
I REALLY NEED A FEW GOOD GUYS TO WORK WITH ... TO BE COMPLEATLY HONEST ... 

MY DAMM PROBLEM IS I HAVE WAY TOOOOOOO MANY IDEAS THIS HAS ALWAYS BEEN MY DOWN FALL ...

I NEVER GET ANYTHING 100 PERCENT COMPLEATE ...

AND THIS IS WHY ... 

SO I GET TO THINKING BOUT THE TIME DIFFRENCIAL UNIT ....

I STARTED A THRED IN THE TPU FOR THIS UNIT ...

THIS WILL BE A LOW VOLTAGE HI FREQ ..  INPUT STEPED DOWN IN FREQ TO MATCH AC .. 50 - 60 HZ..  POWERED BY 1.5 VOLT SOURCE...  WICH CAN BE SUPPLYED BY MANY DIFFRENT MEANS ...

IT WILL BE STABLE AT 60 HZ ...  CONSTANT OUTPUT AC OR DC ANY AMPRAGE ...

SO THIS WILL ELIMINATE SM'S PROBLEM USEING THE HIGH FREQ DC INVERTOR ...... AS SHOWEN IN THE STEVEN MARKS VIDEOS ...

IST

IST/MK1 SH!FT COIL TD TPU 60 HZ
Title: Re: IST SHIFT COIL
Post by: innovation_station on May 23, 2009, 02:17:50 PM
NO THIS AINT MAKE BELEAVE LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bqvd-0n6ZiM

ITS MY WORK AND MY REALITY ... 


IST!

LETS MAKE IT REAL B4 IM DEAD!!!
Title: Re: IST SHIFT COIL
Post by: stprue on May 23, 2009, 04:09:06 PM
NO THIS AINT MAKE BELEAVE LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bqvd-0n6ZiM

ITS MY WORK AND MY REALITY ... 


IST!

The link doesn't seem to be working!

LETS MAKE IT REAL B4 IM DEAD!!!
Title: Re: IST SHIFT COIL
Post by: innovation_station on May 23, 2009, 05:02:09 PM


ITS JUST A GOOD SONG...  :)

IST!
Title: Re: IST SHIFT COIL
Post by: altrez on June 03, 2009, 03:42:47 AM
Interesting. I will watch the progress closely :)

-Altrez
Title: Re: IST SHIFT COIL
Post by: jeanna on June 03, 2009, 05:35:33 AM
FOR THOSE THAT FIND AN INTREST IN MY COILS HERE ARE THE DETAILS...

50" 14 GA 10 T P 24.5 G AND 265 T 28 GA 24.5 G 180 DEG OF SEPERATION

 STANDARD MK2 LITZ WIRE PICKUPS...

IST UNPLUGGED ... :)
Ist,
Are you using the different gauge wires with their inherent different resistances to make the time differential?

I have been thinking about this for a week or so and I am not sure how to make the different coils operate at a different phase from each other???

jeanna
Title: Re: IST SHIFT COIL
Post by: innovation_station on June 03, 2009, 01:10:20 PM
for this coil ....

the time diffrencial is in the small coil and the large coil ..

1 compleate coil runns fast the jt one ..

the shift coil operates slow ..

the shift coil is a 1 wire coil..

it will produce a big kick


to make this simpler go get a mot ....

you must understand ballanced copper mass.... FIRST ...  LIKE THE EXPAIRMENTS I DID YEARS AGO NOW

you now know recovery ..   the original jt uses ballanced copper mass but not inductivelly tuned coils

this is KEY!!!!

far more key than ANY RESONANCE ...  :o

lol

ist!
Title: Re: IST SHIFT COIL
Post by: jeanna on June 04, 2009, 06:37:27 AM
Thanks ist,

I remember Tesla said the number of turns didn't bring the coil into its best state, but the mass of the primary and secondary being equal did.

I don't have a scale to use for this.

So, I will watch you.

thanks,

jeanna
Title: Re: IST SHIFT COIL
Post by: cletushowell on August 10, 2010, 04:10:32 PM
Tesla used washers in the Tesla turbin
can the washers be the magneto and self tune the frequency
higher and higher as the starter till the whole turbine
becomes intune with the frequency direct?
This turbin propells in water land air and space
expecialy if its run on frequency