I'm kind of confused here with who believing what. I'm just going to stay with the simple believe of voltage being induced on the disk itself. The other thing I'm thinking about now is whether the field caused by moving electrons interact only on each others field. Or wether the moving electron itself is interacting with the field of another moving electron. If the latter is the case then shielding can be used to screen one electron from the field of others. But their fields would still be exposed, so it would only work if indeed the electron is interacting with the field.

I will agree to disagree on both points and wish you all well on your experiments as I see it all fruitless. I have already travelled that road.

Many people will travel on the same road before a breakthrough occurs.  Just because you have traveled down this road and didn't find a breakthrough, doesn't mean someone else won't.  The road doesn't produce the fruit.  The people who travel on the road produces the fruit.

Just because your efforts were fruitless, doesn't mean someone else's efforts will be fruitless.  I wish you the best of luck in finding a road that is fruitful to you.

GB

Thank you to those who thought about my ideas.
What I tell you is based on solid experimentation; I have working prototypes for everything I mention except a finished device (which I can not afford to build yet).
  The magnet is just like a lens in the manner that if you rotate a lens on it's axis of focus, the image does not rotate; so when you rotate a magnet on it's axis of magnetization, the field does not rotate.  A simple way to demonstrate this involves a strong  round (disk or cylindrical) magnet and a thick piece of aluminum.  Slide the magnet laterally on the aluminum and you will find great resistance due to induction (hysteresis) but if you spin the magnet (on its axis of magnetization) on the aluminum (or other nonferrous metal) you'll find there is no magnetic resistance.  This is because the field does not rotate with the magnet.  This is how/why the unipolar generator works even though there is no relative motion between the inductors and the source of field.  This is a serious textbook anomaly.  This starts to explain how systems of circulating charged particles get big because the circulating particles are circulating around the field they are also producing (just like a coil).
  With respect to centripital forces; electrons have basically no mass. There is no detectable difference between the electrons being induced to the axis or to the circumference.  They are happy to go either way.  The EM forces greatly override their momentum.
 To see why you can never violate Newton with coils, go back to the first reference I posted showing 2 perpendicular current elements, it explains it pretty well.  The perpendicular current elements do violate Newton, so they even make a point to say that you cant make isolated current elements which is dead wrong.  To make an isolated current element you simply need a straight wire segment with sliding (or rolling or arc gap) brushes at each end.  My patent involves many such elements (www.magvortechs.tk) in series.
  Another explanation for this could be that you can not violate Newton using 2 magnets moving past each other; many of us have tried this to no avail.  Coils act just like permanent magnets, so the same is true there.  You have to take advantage of the unipolar fixed field effect, the perpendicular current element Newton violation, and a uniform geometry to realize over-unity.
-BWS

Hello all,

Sorry to keep banging on about homopolars in general, I know this thread is about Brolis idea, but I thought you'd all like to hear about my experiment.

I tried the experiment of spinning The magnet disk along with the takeoff and load. Took me a few tries and a few flying capacitors to get it balanced well enough. I just stuck the cap to the axle using super glue.

Magnet: N52 Nickel Coated Neo (diam=38mm thick=6.5mm)
Electrolytic cap: 6.3V 1000uF
Resistor: 100k metal film

Outer rim is connected to the -v cap terminal.
The magnet axle is connected via the resistor to the +v cap terminal.

In this configuration the cap will discharge at about 2mV per second.

I discharged the cap by shorting and then did a spin up to 3000RPM for 2 minutes.

I noticed no difference in the capacitors charge after measuring as soon as it stopped. spinning, GUTTED!

I wondered if the centrifugal force made my rim connection go open circuit as it's only bound on with tight sellotape so I also tried precharging the cap to 300mV and then left it to discharge for 30 seconds. Tried this spinning and static, same discharge rate.

Your reply is notable because you are taking an EE's point of view.  That is, you have probably been taught that induction can only occur only when there is a change (delta) in field strength on a charged particle.  This is the system used when working with oscillating fields and induction in coils, and it has no application to the uniform/steady field physics we are talking about here.  To see my point, take a strong look at cyclotrons.  In a cyclotron induction is definitely happening even though there is no change in field strength relative to the particle, but the moving particle must move perpendicularly through the steady field, and then induction can not be avoided.
-BWS

Your reply is notable because you are taking an EE's point of view.  That is, you have probably been taught that induction can only occur only when there is a change (delta) in field strength on a charged particle.  This is the system used when working with oscillating fields and induction in coils, and it has no application to the uniform/steady field physics we are talking about here.  To see my point, take a strong look at cyclotrons.  In a cyclotron induction is definitely happening even though there is no change in field strength relative to the particle, but the moving particle must move perpendicularly through the steady field, and then induction can not be avoided.
-BWS

 

How could you have a tornado (electron) that is spinning, but the wind or force (magnetic field) is not moving with the spin of the tornado (electron), but is stationary? 

The external circuit inducing the voltage by cutting the lines of force is disproven also since voltage is indicated with a rotating disk, stationary magnet, and stationary external circuit.  The stationary circuit can not induce a voltage if the magnet is stationary also since it doesn't cut the lines of force.

This is true, but what about the case where the magnet and disk both rotate. Is this not the same as a stationary disk and magnet with only the contacts rotating?

This is true, but what about the case where the magnet and disk both rotate. Is this not the same as a stationary disk and magnet with only the contacts rotating?

You are correct.  After more thought, assuming Yucca's experiment is not flawed somehow, disproves my CF theory when both rotate together, cause this should have induced a voltage.

It appears to me, that whatever is inducing the current and voltage varies with the different types of arrangements.