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Author Topic: Unipolar Electricity: What happens here?  (Read 16967 times)

AbbaRue

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Re: Unipolar Electricity: What happens here?
« Reply #30 on: January 02, 2009, 06:24:41 PM »
A battery can be looked at as a negative resistor.
I think that is the idea of this circuit arrangement.
But the warning given is important, the single battery could explode if using regular batteries.
We should make sure we use some type of rechargeable battery. 

Does anyone know how a rechargeable alkali battery would work in such a circuit?
Would this type of circuit damage them?
They need a special recharger and they put out over 1.5 volts. 
Most rechargeables put out 1.2 to 1.25 Volts.

TinselKoala

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Re: Unipolar Electricity: What happens here?
« Reply #31 on: January 02, 2009, 10:47:55 PM »
Here's some one-wire lights.
But unipolar? I don't think so.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBUfaYi02WI

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Re: Unipolar Electricity: What happens here?
« Reply #32 on: January 03, 2009, 10:13:28 AM »
I'm just asking, this section is called HALF-BAKED ideas. So I can ask it.

If you have a brilliant idea, post it here, because I will learn from it and I will stop "spamming" this board. Meanwhile I will ask all my doubts here.  ;)

Magnethos, I'm sorry for my little critique, or my "unpleasant" post... 

I think you're a good guy! I only had objections with your continuation of asking the same questions in MANY(!) threads of yours over the last months....
Topics which basically deals with Voltage, Current, Power,... (in electrotechnical terms) are really quite well understood (for quite some time now)...

Dealing with batteries,.. "voltage",.. "el. currents", etc... is really just a common electrotechnical knowledge...

The "case" you are presenting in this thread is a simple one, and the answer was given to you by many members, many times..
Based on the cumulative knowledge of physics/electrotechnics, it all cames down to the simple equations of e.g. "Ohm's,  Kirchhoff's Law's"... Or adding/substracting the "Voltage differences" from all the batteries(sources) and consumers included in the el. circuit...

There is no "unipolar electricity", there is no "Cold electricity", electrical circuits are not really a "single wire" ones,... etc...etc...
If you choose to believe the "fringe science" more than the current knowledge, than that's your personal choice....

Anybody claiming the opposite should present the solid proof. In case you really have something new, in days/weeks (maybee months), the majority of "orthodox science" would admit the (centuries long) mistake... No doubt about that!


All the energy conversions are happening just because there's a "POTENTIAL Difference" (Voltage).... First, there must be an ability to "perform"...
And secondly, a trigger mechanism to sparkle the "conversion".... (which is equal to establishing a "closed" el. circuit)...
Then, a current flows...


In the future, if you have some questions, please,check the www info (or even this board) for the answers first...
Why don't you use WikiPedia? It's definitely a very knowledgeable source...?

And, a "half-baked ideas" topics is not meant to deal with a basic misunderstandings and misconceptions....
It is suppose to bring us a good, possible, "could be" working ideas & methods to achieve something more....

Cheers!
« Last Edit: January 03, 2009, 10:57:28 AM by spinner »

Magnethos

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Re: Unipolar Electricity: What happens here?
« Reply #33 on: January 03, 2009, 05:23:42 PM »
Magnethos, I'm sorry for my little critique, or my "unpleasant" post... 

I think you're a good guy! I only had objections with your continuation of asking the same questions in MANY(!) threads of yours over the last months....
Topics which basically deals with Voltage, Current, Power,... (in electrotechnical terms) are really quite well understood (for quite some time now)...

Dealing with batteries,.. "voltage",.. "el. currents", etc... is really just a common electrotechnical knowledge...

The "case" you are presenting in this thread is a simple one, and the answer was given to you by many members, many times..
Based on the cumulative knowledge of physics/electrotechnics, it all cames down to the simple equations of e.g. "Ohm's,  Kirchhoff's Law's"... Or adding/substracting the "Voltage differences" from all the batteries(sources) and consumers included in the el. circuit...

There is no "unipolar electricity", there is no "Cold electricity", electrical circuits are not really a "single wire" ones,... etc...etc...
If you choose to believe the "fringe science" more than the current knowledge, than that's your personal choice....

Anybody claiming the opposite should present the solid proof. In case you really have something new, in days/weeks (maybee months), the majority of "orthodox science" would admit the (centuries long) mistake... No doubt about that!


All the energy conversions are happening just because there's a "POTENTIAL Difference" (Voltage).... First, there must be an ability to "perform"...
And secondly, a trigger mechanism to sparkle the "conversion".... (which is equal to establishing a "closed" el. circuit)...
Then, a current flows...


In the future, if you have some questions, please,check the www info (or even this board) for the answers first...
Why don't you use WikiPedia? It's definitely a very knowledgeable source...?

And, a "half-baked ideas" topics is not meant to deal with a basic misunderstandings and misconceptions....
It is suppose to bring us a good, possible, "could be" working ideas & methods to achieve something more....

Cheers!

Man, I'm 100% agree with you!
The problem is I have a mixed knowledge, a bit from orthodox science and a bit from the fringe science.
I know a bit about everything, but I don't have a deep knowledge about any field. So, that is the reason I'm always asking the same and people are always replying me the same. People believes in orthodox science and I'm not agree with common science and I talk about unproven science.

Maybe the best choice now would be a physic forum instead of free enegy forum. I need to learn more about orthodox physics, and start experimenting little by little.

For now, cold electricity doesn't exists. I have seem some projects, but anyone haven't sucessfull replicated and used cold electrical current. If I'm very interested, the best thing is start learning common science, then learn fringe science and experiment with both common and fringe science, and, If I found something interesting. Post Results instead asking Unknow things. Maybe in some moment I could find a interesting thing and I could share the knowledge instead of trying that others help me.

Of course, I have to study hard, and work hard. There is no other choice. If my efforts are correct and enough, the results should come to me automatically.

Good comment man!

sparks

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Re: Unipolar Electricity: What happens here?
« Reply #34 on: January 03, 2009, 06:09:13 PM »
   I wouldn't give up on that cold electricty.  When we put voltage to a diode there is inside the crystals a migration of "holes" in the diode towards the negative charged plate.  Same thing in a piece of wire.  The hole in the valence shell of the copper molecules migrates toward the cathode.  Now this migration of positive charged space is without the constraints of mass like inertia and speed of light it is migration of charge not migration of charge carriers.  So there has to be a time in a diode where the holes are migrating towards the cathode a hell of alot faster than the electrons are moving towards the anode.  Of course when the electrons start to migrate they create heat because of collisions with other atoms and photon radiation due to these collisions occurs.  Hot electricity.  But in that very first instant of voltage application the migration and concentration of the holes before the electron mass responds gives a window of massless migration of charge or polarization of the dielectric field without the constraints of mass velocity gain.  Splitting the postive I'm not sure.  Maybe clumping the positive? :)

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Re: Unipolar Electricity: What happens here?
« Reply #35 on: January 03, 2009, 07:18:25 PM »
...this migration of positive charged space is without the constraints of mass like inertia and speed of light it is migration of charge not migration of charge carriers.  So there has to be a time in a diode where the holes are migrating towards the cathode a hell of alot faster than the electrons are moving towards the anode...

...and if we brake the connection before the electrons start their migration?

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Re: Unipolar Electricity: What happens here?
« Reply #36 on: January 03, 2009, 10:55:55 PM »
   I wouldn't give up on that cold electricty.  When we put voltage to a diode there is inside the crystals a migration of "holes" in the diode towards the negative charged plate.  Same thing in a piece of wire.  The hole in the valence shell of the copper molecules migrates toward the cathode.  Now this migration of positive charged space is without the constraints of mass like inertia and speed of light it is migration of charge not migration of charge carriers.  So there has to be a time in a diode where the holes are migrating towards the cathode a hell of alot faster than the electrons are moving towards the anode.  Of course when the electrons start to migrate they create heat because of collisions with other atoms and photon radiation due to these collisions occurs.  Hot electricity.  But in that very first instant of voltage application the migration and concentration of the holes before the electron mass responds gives a window of massless migration of charge or polarization of the dielectric field without the constraints of mass velocity gain.  Splitting the postive I'm not sure.  Maybe clumping the positive? :)

HV impulses make coax "jump" like "jumper cables" for an automobile.

Not splitting the positive - just keeping it positive

...and if we brake the connection before the electrons start their migration?

Then we begin to work with the "bold" part of Spark's message above - which is the cold current.

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Re: Unipolar Electricity: What happens here?
« Reply #37 on: January 04, 2009, 01:17:54 AM »
@rosphere


       Honestly I have no frigging clue!   But I do suspect that having a concentration of voided space (vacuum) does not go unnoticed by the field surrounding the diode. 

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Re: Unipolar Electricity: What happens here?
« Reply #38 on: January 04, 2009, 06:10:54 PM »
@Grumpy

     Maybe why the coax jumps is it is sitting in an electric pressure field.   I include a video showing some pressure anomalies.   Reminds me of Buzz's cavitation theory.   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKivPSVGpsw&feature=related

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Re: Unipolar Electricity: What happens here?
« Reply #39 on: January 04, 2009, 06:45:43 PM »
@Grumpy

     Maybe why the coax jumps is it is sitting in an electric pressure field.   I include a video showing some pressure anomalies.   Reminds me of Buzz's cavitation theory.   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKivPSVGpsw&feature=related

aren't you a smart one, sparks..

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Re: Unipolar Electricity: What happens here?
« Reply #40 on: January 04, 2009, 09:04:26 PM »
@rosphere


       Honestly I have no frigging clue!   But I do suspect that having a concentration of voided space (vacuum) does not go unnoticed by the field surrounding the diode. 

Your explanations are exact.