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Author Topic: Rough idea for gravity powered perpetual motion device  (Read 17575 times)

hansvonlieven

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Re: Rough idea for gravity powered perpetual motion device
« Reply #15 on: September 14, 2008, 08:55:23 PM »
G'day again,

This explains it better than I could

http://www.regentsprep.org/Regents/physics/phys06/bcentrif/default.htm

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Marctwo

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Re: Rough idea for gravity powered perpetual motion device
« Reply #16 on: September 14, 2008, 09:42:24 PM »
This could all get a bit silly...

CF does exist and can be used and calculated in physics... but it's not a real force;  More of an effect.

CP is also not a force but a force requirement to counteract CF.

So if you're on a roundabout and are pushed up against the wall due to CF then the wall is providing the necessary CP to keep you on the roundabout going round and round.

In the real world, I'm sure we all know what CF is and CP is not an appropriate substitute.  But quite a few people mix these up round here and as long as we understand which is implied... who cares?
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Re: Rough idea for gravity powered perpetual motion device
« Reply #17 on: September 15, 2008, 06:27:04 AM »
Ok I read up on the history of perpetual motion devices and I see that a lot of people have tried and failed at inventing a perpetual motion machine. I think magnet force looks like a possibility though. I designed this new machine... it will be a rotating wheel with one magnet on the edge of the wheel and a large magnet at the top to help pull up the magnet on the wheel to overcome the force of gravity. I hope this design will work. Has anyone tried a similar idea? P.S. The spiral design on the wheel is just for decoration. It would be cool because it would "hypnotize" you while it spins.
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4Tesla

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Re: Rough idea for gravity powered perpetual motion device
« Reply #18 on: September 15, 2008, 08:13:47 AM »
I believe that magnets are the key to getting a gravity wheel to work.. but the problems with magnets are "sticky spots" and "walls"..
Keep thinking of ideas and we welcome you to continue sharing.. don't worry about what others think.

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FreeEnergy

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Re: Rough idea for gravity powered perpetual motion device
« Reply #19 on: September 15, 2008, 08:42:35 AM »
Quote from: 4Tesla on September 15, 2008, 08:13:47 AM
I believe that magnets are the key to getting a gravity wheel to work.. but the problems with magnets are "sticky spots" and "walls"..
Keep thinking of ideas and we welcome you to continue sharing.. don't worry about what others think.

Jason

yes don't worry what others think/say but do conceder what they have to say/think, you might save yourself a lot of time this way.
and if you really want people to shut up post an open source video with a working model or at least something you think will lead to over unity/free energy technologies.

by the way welcome to overunity.com :)
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Nabo00o

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Re: Rough idea for gravity powered perpetual motion device
« Reply #20 on: September 15, 2008, 11:22:31 AM »
Quote from: FreeEnergy on September 15, 2008, 08:42:35 AM
yes don't worry what others think/say but do conceder what they have to say/think, you might save yourself a lot of time this way.
and if you really want people to shut up post an open source video with a working model or at least something you think will lead to over unity/free energy technologies.

by the way welcome to overunity.com :)
its good to have enthusiastic and open source type of people like you. good luck with your quest for freedom. this is why we are here. to save the world! :) welcome to the team.

peace
 



Yes, try for yourself and don't let others get you down, some times things might work no matter if you understand it or not.
Allthough with the magnet now added you are just creating another force which effect the wheel, just like gravity, only that its local on a smal area of the wheel. Still though, the force collected from the horseshoe to attract the other magnet will be less than the pull which creates a drag on the magnet. Though you might find a solution to that problem.
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broli

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Re: Rough idea for gravity powered perpetual motion device
« Reply #21 on: September 15, 2008, 01:43:30 PM »
Always nice to see a PM toddler  ;D. Even though the "experts" directly see the flaws it's important to keep thinking and sharing, because the more you do the more experience you build and the bigger the chance get you stumble on something interesting  ;). Btw for a pure gravity wheelist magnets are "cheating" even though none have shown a working gravity-magnet wheel  ::). I sometimes think of magnets as well but then also realize magnets are not free. What I recommend for the math part is to have a good knowledge of how torque can be calculated. This is an important asset in the search for a gravity wheel.
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soliris

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Re: Rough idea for gravity powered perpetual motion device
« Reply #22 on: September 15, 2008, 11:56:09 PM »
To Mr Hansvonlieven : I m sure that exists a great attractor, making these unknown centripetal forces; it's so obvious that anyone of us can see it...

To Mr Broli: Some experiences with two magnets were not realised again (like the Germans did) ...And I think that we can find the secret, by knowing exactly how to STOP them, to enter just at that moment the antigravity...(The return of the shock, how do you say that, in English)

I like this forum: you take care to everyone his opinion

soliris, approaching Mos Eisly astrobase.

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Bessler007

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Re: Rough idea for gravity powered perpetual motion device
« Reply #23 on: December 25, 2008, 02:52:59 PM »
Always nice to see a logic toddler  ;D.

Quote from: broli on September 15, 2008, 01:43:30 PM
Even though the "experts" directly see the flaws it's important to keep thinking and sharing, because the more you do the more experience you build and the bigger the chance get you stumble on something interesting  ;)

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What I recommend for the math part is to have a good knowledge of how torque can be calculated. This is an important asset in the search for a gravity wheel.

I doubt this.  If it is true I know how it can be done though.


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Bessler007

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Re: Rough idea for gravity powered perpetual motion device
« Reply #24 on: December 25, 2008, 11:44:16 PM »
Hello Broli,

I do have something to share in the field of gravity powered perpetual motion.  You can see how the model works here::

Gravity Powered Perpetual Motion Revealed (GPPM)



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