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Author Topic: Audio amp+hydro gen cell?  (Read 12729 times)

vdubdipr

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Re: Audio amp+hydro gen cell?
« Reply #15 on: May 01, 2008, 06:38:05 AM »
just make sure you dont draw too much current out of the amp!!  use an anl fuse inline on the power cord lower that the total of all fuses on the amplifier itself, i tried to hook up my cell to the wall outlet today... poped the circuit breaker right away even with the electolyte diluted way down..........3 times haha, just be real careful you know why...  cross all fingers and toes, and cheack your warranty status on the amp, if you got a good feeling roll the dice, but you might not even make that much power cuz the amp varies in power output by the ohm load or total impedance, so if your cell has a high resistance then even if its a 1000 watt amp at 2 ohms @ 6 ohms it will only make 250 watts know what i mean? of course you do... if your into compititions, good to hear you got internal speakers/tweeters to back up the bass i hate it when you get in someones car and you cant even hear music,just bass you know... ive always been partial to aidiobahn myself, i had 3 12inch sound q aluminum cones, with a flame q 2000 watt rms @ 1 ohm and then ibut in a rca line amp booster to 10 volts so i had about 2200 rms, along with a  old school ads 6 channel with 2 tweets and top of the line pioneer speekers, that was my favorite stereo, after i blew my 2 boston acoustic pros, then i got big into autotek amps and FI subs man FI subs are probubly the best thing out there right now, there NUTS.    peace

Dr.Greenthumb

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Re: Audio amp+hydro gen cell?
« Reply #16 on: May 01, 2008, 02:44:17 PM »
yeah its a no go. The first time i hooked it up the power cord started to get a little hot and you could hear the 8000 hz tone i was putting into it! odd. tried a couple more times after that and it would just turn the amp off. im guessing it would need a full connection to actually work. Maybe if i hooked up a speaker to it as well as the cell it might work? something to try tonight.

vdubdipr

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Re: Audio amp+hydro gen cell?
« Reply #17 on: May 01, 2008, 06:03:31 PM »
if it was getting a lil hot it was probubly drawing too much current, although amps tend to get hot on there own, when i plugged m shit into the wall just before the cuircut breaker pooped the socket was buzzing alot and the loudest ive ever hear a socket buzz... maybe just use the tiniest amount of electolyte and wire the speaker in series to add ohms , so theres less worry of blowing the amplifier..

Dr.Greenthumb

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Re: Audio amp+hydro gen cell?
« Reply #18 on: May 01, 2008, 06:46:07 PM »
I forgot to mention I had the amp hooked up to the cell bridged (L neg to R pos) and didn't try it the other way. I could give that a go too. I spent most of my time yesterday cleaning the cell and trying to put spacer in it and lining it up. I think I'm going to head down to the steel place and ask them how much a sheet would be.And maybe have them cut it for me.

canada765

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Re: Audio amp+hydro gen cell?
« Reply #19 on: May 03, 2008, 01:37:26 AM »
Ok, just an idea but here it goes,

For a simple idea to test how much sound resonance plays into this HH0 process why not do some simple experiments like take a glass beaker of water and mount small speakers on the outside. The glass should conduct the sound to the water inside fairly well. Inside the beaker you have some simple electrodes. Why not use razor blades? Should be fairly high grade stainless steel.... Put one over the other and separate by some 2-way tape, (or glue or whatever) say enough to get a 1 mm space, it's easy to change and add more if desired but start simple by having just one anode and cathode... Start by tuning different audio frequencies , either through a signal generator or a software program. Combine this with the electrolysis process and see what happens when you change the audio frequencies. Worth a try perhaps? I don't think a kicker amp is needed, what is needed is more finesse. Without applying any power to the electrodes it should be possible to see what frequencies effect the water and then try using either regular or pulsed D.C electrolysis and see if there is any performance increase when you notice any sound/water resonance. My guess is there should be. Anyone else want to experiment with this?
« Last Edit: May 03, 2008, 02:03:47 AM by canada765 »

vdubdipr

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Re: Audio amp+hydro gen cell?
« Reply #20 on: May 03, 2008, 04:09:21 AM »
yes we know frequency plays a LARGE roll in the process we just think if a guy could go and buy a cheap ass amp and hook it up to a cell that would be alot easier to do then build a stan meyer pwm.
amplifiers have very easy to use crossovers and can boost frequency, this is why hes trying a car audio amp, neither one of us though have a cheap amp to experiment with thats wh hes using the kicker. if you read up on bob boyce youll understand how this will work with ac current and frequency also. he used 61 cells though......

canada765

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Re: Audio amp+hydro gen cell?
« Reply #21 on: May 03, 2008, 05:22:59 AM »

You could use the amp and speakers from your computer for this, I'm guessing they would be powerful enough plus there is lots of free sound generator s/w out there.. But yes I see value in trying what your talking about also and I hope you guys follow through with it.  :)


vdubdipr

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Re: Audio amp+hydro gen cell?
« Reply #22 on: May 04, 2008, 04:24:49 AM »
today i got a blown 920 max kole audio amp. a blown kenwood 760, and a blown 4 channel 250 rms rampage.... cheap amps but i fixed the rampage, and the kole now makes very distorted music, to test them i use my battery charger and hook the remote straight to the positive, then use my ps2 for the rca in and yeah, so imma try out the rampage, and if it blows oh well they were all free anyway! and maybe ill just fix it again... imma try it right now and see... peace

vdubdipr

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Re: Audio amp+hydro gen cell?
« Reply #23 on: May 04, 2008, 04:34:56 AM »
led power indicator light dimmed as the amp buzzed when i turned up the gain and no hydrogen, i think it is still plausable though, because who knows that the impeadance of the cell is....

Dr.Greenthumb

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Re: Audio amp+hydro gen cell?
« Reply #24 on: May 05, 2008, 01:35:53 AM »
try hooking your amp up to a battery too with the charger. i tried mine with just the charger at first and the sound kept cutting out.

::edit:: im trying to read all over that high voltage hho thread by iron head.i didnt know you dont have to have all the plates touching each other! i have a lot of steel just not stainless steel. does it have to be stainless for testing purposes?

vdubdipr

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Re: Audio amp+hydro gen cell?
« Reply #25 on: May 05, 2008, 02:40:46 AM »
yeah i have a deep cycle marine optima that i hook the charger up to at the same time, and an auxillary can be separate on pos. and neg. wing nut terminals. i would not have any of the plates touching because then the current can go right threw to the next plate instead of traveling threw the water via the electrolyte, making hydrogen. as far as the stainless see if you can find the bolt in my cell that i didnt know wasnt ss. the cell only had been running for about 15 min. total time!


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