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lumen

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Re: Perpetual Motion
« Reply #15 on: June 25, 2009, 03:13:52 AM »
Oc, That is too easy to test, just stick two magnets together and measure the pull, Then measure the pull when placed side by side. You will see the two have much more pull than when together as a single magnet.

The point is , I have already tested the pull at every .05 inch increment through the shown cycle using two different fixtures and the results are the same. The setup shows exactly as described, and there is a gain after considering all the moves from inserting magnet "C" to extracting it.

I have the collected data in a log book of both the tests and believe something is unusual with this setup. The gain is substantial at about 15% of the force of moving "A" from "B". This is about the same work as lifting 1kg .05 inch for each transaction.

As magnet "A" is pulled into the north face of both magnet "C" and "B" it will actually start to pull easier as it gains some push from the existing fields.
It's a simple setup, you could verify it yourself.

Additionally, this is another setup based on the same principal but configured differently.


 

gadgetmall

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Re: Perpetual Motion
« Reply #16 on: September 10, 2009, 02:37:58 PM »
< sarcasm >
Yeah I'm sure everyone here tries to patent evry half baked idea that comes down the pipe...
< /sarcasm >

This is a open source research community in which the modus operandi is free and open sharing of ideas, concepts, and prototypes amongst peers for evaluation, replication, leading finally to confimation.

As far as I know no one here has positively confirmed free energy from any one device on this site, but we all contribute to and replicate anything that looks to be promising. If your asperation is to make money from your idea sharing it here may not be the best idea, but if your interested in helping solve the biggest problem man kind faces in the near future this site is a great outlet for group efforts in research.

I hope to hear more about your device,
~Dingus
Hi . That is exactly why i have patented several of my working ideas and not made them open source . the best way to Solve Free Energy is offer a working product such as My E-light or Eternity light . A device i created that runs leds lights on one aaa battery while simultaneously charging another to full capacity to swap and always have a spare battery ready to go to provide usable light . Patent pending and i have sold many prototypes working modles to the public to fund the patents and give people what they desire , free energy,and that when disassembled they self destruct plus there are no part numbers if someone tries to see them nor is the schematic public or a copy of someone elses idea . another method i am in the process to   patent to protect My circuits . It may be the only way to get free energy is to pay for it first . open source is like the above poster said its easily made someones else s idea with a simple patent . you don't even need a working prototype just the idea can be patented as My patent lawyer said do not post anything unless you want to give it away to someone else to make money from or patent it first !Simply put FREE ENERGY will not be free to the public but only to the inventor and the patent holder . Free energy is Free money and where do you all think that will happen ? here? No this world is all about Money and buying stuff . I for see a small generator in every home in the future after all the patents and military applications are exhausted along with our oil supply . not until then . If before then then its private sales like my  own and word of mouth that they exist .
gadget .

lumen

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Re: Perpetual Motion
« Reply #17 on: September 10, 2009, 05:22:00 PM »
Patent lawyers are out to make money just like you say, "every thing is about money in this world" The thing he is not saying is that as soon as an idea is posted, it is the posters instant copyright and anything used from this original work is still the authors original work!

If you notice the posting date on all the posts, you can count this as the copyright date and when you patent your idea based on someones posted idea, you would need to be sure they would not want to come back and claim your patent based on stolen prior work!

(You know how to keep a lawyer from drowning? Take your foot off his head!)
 

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Re: Perpetual Motion
« Reply #18 on: September 21, 2009, 09:17:31 PM »
...it is the posters instant copyright and anything used from this original work is still the authors original work!

That's true...for the 'text and  pictures' in a post. However, a copyright only protects the 'embodiment' of an author's work, not the idea itself, whereas a patent protects the 'idea', regardless of the embodiment of that idea.

In other words, the 'post' is protected  but not the idea expressed in the post. The idea becomes public domain (public knowledge) upon dissemination unless it has been patented beforehand.
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