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Author Topic: help to install an HHO device into a VW Golf 3  (Read 28777 times)

msghaleb

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Re: help to install an HHO device into a VW Golf 3
« Reply #15 on: February 27, 2008, 01:28:17 PM »
Hi Stefan,

Have you installed the HHO in your Golf? would you please give us your experience with it, Photos, Pdfs, Videos would be great as I have the same car and wondering about the best way to get around the sensors.

Cheers

ramset

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Re: help to install an HHO device into a VW Golf 3
« Reply #16 on: February 28, 2008, 02:59:17 AM »
Sfephan, I was also curious if you had any success with the VW. I also have a question on a normaly aspirated mercedes 4CYL diesel ,I dont want to blow the head off .I see big rigs claim to use  Booster's.I'm sure it's possible ,just not sure about ratio .If any one has experience with hho booster and non turbo diesel I would GREATLY appreciate a little guidence thanks chet

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Re: help to install an HHO device into a VW Golf 3
« Reply #17 on: February 28, 2008, 04:06:20 PM »
Many regard this as the definitive document on boosting cars with hydroxy gas:
http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/Smack.pdf
and the experts are to be found here:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Hydroxy/
There are dangers. This gas is highly explosive - bubblers are essential.
consider also the Workingwatercar group if you want a pure hydroxy solution
but be advised that it is a much more difficult build.
Paul.

ramset

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Re: help to install an HHO device into a VW Golf 3
« Reply #18 on: February 29, 2008, 02:19:35 AM »
Paul thankyou VERY much for the info, chet

hartiberlin

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Re: help to install an HHO device into a VW Golf 3
« Reply #19 on: February 29, 2008, 03:48:28 AM »
Sfephan, I was also curious if you had any success with the VW. I also have a question on a normaly aspirated mercedes 4CYL diesel ,I dont want to blow the head off .I see big rigs claim to use  Booster's.I'm sure it's possible ,just not sure about ratio .If any one has experience with hho booster and non turbo diesel I would GREATLY appreciate a little guidence thanks chet

Sorry guys,
have not had any time yet to play with these concepts.
I am collecting now only the needed infos and will
try to get to it in April to June this year.

Also need first to build an own electrolyzer or
go with a commercial one.

So let the solutions come in.
Many thanks.
Regards, Stefan.

h20power

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Re: help to install an HHO device into a VW Golf 3
« Reply #20 on: March 01, 2008, 09:10:56 PM »
Hi, I have a 1985 VW Sirocco which is just about the same as your golf. I have had different system in the car for over a year now, and have never had a flash back with it hook up like this. I tied into the main vacuum line just after the intake manifold with a T valve, and that line goes strait too the hho device. I don't use a bubbler or flash supressent type of set ups, strait too the tank. I use a water mister installed in the intake system to keep the tempretures below hydrogens flash point of 500 degrees and too cool any hot spots in the whole intake system. I used water too solve water related problems ;). Here is a video showing the vacuum electrolysis unit working in the car: http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=GMYNiE-KOn4
If you have any questions feel free to ask.

Have you read the study by Arizona State on the use of hydrogen in internal combustion engines? That will keep you safe in adding hydrogen to internal combustion engines, for knowlege is power, and better safe than sorry. :)

Well, I hope that helps you out for we have the same type of car and I have had no problems with it hooked up this way for over a year now.

Oh! I don't use any salts of any kind just God given rain water. I am working on Dingle/Meyer type techology but that is still in the R&D phase once I get it working I will finally be off of gasoline for all time :o

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Re: help to install an HHO device into a VW Golf 3
« Reply #21 on: March 02, 2008, 07:50:35 PM »
H20Power

Impressive video!
How do you manage to get such good gas production while not using any electrolyte?
It does not look like a series cell design?

h20power

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Re: help to install an HHO device into a VW Golf 3
« Reply #22 on: March 02, 2008, 08:34:36 PM »
Hi, I spaced the plates .020 inch apart and yes is a parallel type cell. I belive I used 18 or 19 plates in all. The close spacing and the effects of vacuum on electrolysis make a big differance.

ramset

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Re: help to install an HHO device into a VW Golf 3
« Reply #23 on: March 02, 2008, 10:25:23 PM »
H20 thanx a bunch for all that info . That Arizona study is great Chet

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Re: help to install an HHO device into a VW Golf 3
« Reply #24 on: March 03, 2008, 07:18:00 AM »
Hi, I spaced the plates .020 inch apart and yes is a parallel type cell. I belive I used 18 or 19 plates in all. The close spacing and the effects of vacuum on electrolysis make a big differance.
H20Power

Thanks for the info!
How thick are your plates?
Do you have any idea how much gas you are making, i.e. liters per minute @ how many amps?

h20power

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Re: help to install an HHO device into a VW Golf 3
« Reply #25 on: March 03, 2008, 11:08:08 AM »
The plates are .01 inches thick and it is making aproximently 3L/min, but the output of the cell goes up and down with the demands of the engine, due to the Vacuum effects on electrolysis, and it take from 7-10 amps. Remember it's only rain water no salts added of anykind.

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Re: help to install an HHO device into a VW Golf 3
« Reply #26 on: March 03, 2008, 12:00:16 PM »
h20power

WOW! Thats very impressive!
Are you saying that by merely moving the plates much closer (0.2" apart) and placing them in a parallel configuration, you are getting these good results, or are you using any other tricks to get to these figures? :)

ramset

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Re: help to install an HHO device into a VW Golf 3
« Reply #27 on: March 03, 2008, 03:58:07 PM »
H20 plain water is a HUGE benefit here {obvious to you] you mention a water mist system as an add on to your hydroxy  can you share any of this in a brief schem .my jaw dropped when I saw your video with plain water and your very thin gauge material thanx chet

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Re: help to install an HHO device into a VW Golf 3
« Reply #28 on: March 04, 2008, 12:15:07 AM »
Hi Everyone, Yeah no tricks, it's just plain rain water. This is a good water mister: http://www.aquamist.co.uk/cp/cp.html. There are other brands but this one works very well.
 http://www.aquastealth.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWCATS&Category=239. Just get the base model for most of us don't need the other stuff.

This is where I got the shims: http://www.smallparts.com/products/descriptions/shsp.cfm and the stainless steel too.

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Re: help to install an HHO device into a VW Golf 3
« Reply #29 on: March 04, 2008, 01:22:09 AM »
H2Power thanks again for the info .Do you have anything monitoring your intake plenum temperature ,Chet