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Benefitting from your work over here
hartiberlin:
Hi all TPU-Builders.
As you are the elite members of our forum here I am looking for
a method to support the builders, who do the hard work.
In this moment the advertisement income is only about 200 to 300 US$ per
month mainly from the Google Adsense program, the other ads don?t
bring much yet...
Well as I donate almost all of this money currently into the OverUnity Prize pot,
which will benefit only the one, who will have done it,
we need a different method to support you, who do the basic work and
don?t even have for instance the money to buy a cheap digital camera to post pictures,
like Otto for instance...
So what do you think about this:
I would setup a new membership option , so the average user, who wants to know the
latest informations will get only READ access to this TPU builders area and will also
have disabled ads, so he can surf the boards faster.
For the membership he would have to pay around 3 to 5 US$ per month and this money
will go into another pot, which will be splitted between the "builder"-members from over here
and throughout the board members, who post the best new infos and build stuff and
post their own articles and videos and pictures, etc...
I have now played much more with the permissions in this forum software and
this could be done by setting up new membergroups and giving it different permissions to
only read access or read/write access, etc...
Then I could integrate a shop function, where users could buy a membership via PayPal
or other money transfers..and use recurring billing for the next months.
So now the question is, if you, the builders are okay with it and what would be the best way
to split the income to the ones,who really do something and what would be the conditions
to to decide, who will get money from this pot and when and how much.
First of course I would have to see, how many people will at all
sign up for this membership at all, so only removing the ads via the membership
would probably be too low of an excitement to get more memberships...
But if we tell the average person, that he will have access to the hidden TPU builders
or other upcoming non public areas,this might interest him enough to buy this membership...
So what do you all think about this ?
We surely have to make sure, that all results are not just copied by someone
to the non-membership area or to other free websites, but I guess, if we are
always a step ahead of the copycats, the averahe user would like to
know immediately all the latest news and chooses better the membership
than to wait, until any copycat has copied the content elsewhere...
Also we could claim then copyright for this domain, so it would be forbidden
to copy it in this stage elsewhere...
So all in all I want you, the elite to stay here and do the research and profit from
it.
So now I am waiting for your comments and ideas.
Many thanks again.
Regards, Stefan.
eldarion:
Doesn't this depend mainly on what Bob Boyce wants to do with the technology? I know he agreed to work with us; I am not sure if he wants to have John Q. Public reading all about his hard-earned research and results. Maybe Bruce knows more that I do about this?
Good idea though!
Bruce_TPU:
--- Quote from: hartiberlin on August 04, 2007, 12:44:44 AM ---Hi all TPU-Builders.
As you are the elite members of our forum here I am looking for
a method to support the builders, who do the hard work.
In this moment the advertisement income is only about 200 to 300 US$ per
month mainly from the Google Adsense program, the other ads don?t
bring much yet...
Well as I donate almost all of this money currently into the OverUnity Prize pot,
which will benefit only the one, who will have done it,
we need a different method to support you, who do the basic work and
don?t even have for instance the money to buy a cheap digital camera to post pictures,
like Otto for instance...
So what do you think about this:
I would setup a new membership option , so the average user, who wants to know the
latest informations will get only READ access to this TPU builders area and will also
have disabled ads, so he can surf the boards faster.
For the membership he would have to pay around 3 to 5 US$ per month and this money
will go into another pot, which will be splitted between the "builder"-members from over here
and throughout the board members, who post the best new infos and build stuff and
post their own articles and videos and pictures, etc...
I have now played much more with the permissions in this forum software and
this could be done by setting up new membergroups and giving it different permissions to
only read access or read/write access, etc...
Then I could integrate a shop function, where users could buy a membership via PayPal
or other money transfers..and use recurring billing for the next months.
So now the question is, if you, the builders are okay with it and what would be the best way
to split the income to the ones,who really do something and what would be the conditions
to to decide, who will get money from this pot and when and how much.
First of course I would have to see, how many people will at all
sign up for this membership at all, so only removing the ads via the membership
would probably be too low of an excitement to get more memberships...
But if we tell the average person, that he will have access to the hidden TPU builders
or other upcoming non public areas,this might interest him enough to buy this membership...
So what do you all think about this ?
We surely have to make sure, that all results are not just copied by someone
to the non-membership area or to other free websites, but I guess, if we are
always a step ahead of the copycats, the averahe user would like to
know immediately all the latest news and chooses better the membership
than to wait, until any copycat has copied the content elsewhere...
Also we could claim then copyright for this domain, so it would be forbidden
to copy it in this stage elsewhere...
So all in all I want you, the elite to stay here and do the research and profit from
it.
So now I am waiting for your comments and ideas.
Many thanks again.
Regards, Stefan.
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Hello Stefan,
I have several comments and thoughts to make. First let me say that I appreciate the "Spirit" of your offer.
But a couple of hurdles that I forsee. First, is that the entire reason we are all over here, is that Bob Boyce wishes to not have people who are not skilled in the art, link over to the phase information. In particular, the Hydroxy folks who are wanting to wind their own toroid, for use in HHO production. So by doing as you suggest, it would seem to defeat the purpose we set this up to begin with.
Next, I believe several things with all of my heart. None of us are doing this for money, and as you stated several of us are very poor. If any hurdles would be crossed to make your idea a reality, the only one who can decide that is Bob B. Any moneys that come in, I for one would like to see ALL of it go to Bob B. and to support his further research. Soon, and I personally hope to be able to contribute to help him with his new shop, even if it is just a small amount each month.
Without Bob B. there would be none of this. I also VOTE to donate the overunity prize, to Bob B. When we get our TPU's working.
To care for the "needs" of any of our TPU Elite Builders, I suggest they post those needs, and those of us who have big hearts, will do what we can, over the course of time, to meet those needs. For instance now that we know that Otto has need of a digital camara, I am sure that one of us, will soon meet that need. ;) Or you can donate a small percentage of the present advertising revenue on a monthly basis to also help to meet there build needs.
But I must say that I and this entire replication team will leave the ultimate decision to your suggestion to Bob B. The decision is his to make, and we replicators will go along with whatever his decision.
Thank you and warm regards,
Bruce
hartiberlin:
Hi Bruce,
many thanks for this nice comment.
This was only an example , how I could set it up now.
We could also leave this TPU builders group now as it is hidden
and use other areas to build non public boards in this forum,
where only paying members would have access to it.
The question is, how we can raise enough money to support the builders
even more.
If for instance every month could be raised for example
3000 US$ via membership money, this money could
be donated in parts to several inventors, who are in need
to buy parts or better measurement equipments
or just for new parts or magnets, etc.. for new experiments
that we wish should be done to see, what effect would have this and this...
etc...
The question now is, with this worldwide members that we have over here
now over 8050 members so far, if we could do it this way, to get faster moving
and getting us faster to the goal to have soon an open source free energy unit.
I have not yet seen any picture or video of Bob?s Boyce TPU, so where is it ?
Sorry, I did not have much time the last days to study all of it over here,
cause I am pretty much involved to setup this new video system over here
and try to have a higher Google ranking for the keyword "free energy" for overunity.com,
and I succeeded and am now already in page 2 of Google with it.
So the question is, how long would it still take Bob or the others over here to
have a selfrunning TPU and do I still need to setup this paying membership site
to get it faster moving ?
If Bob really has a selfrunning TPU, is he able to post a video of it soon or at least a picture
lighting a bulb ?
Also if the goal of an open source free energy system will be soon presented, and this
will be done by then ,
we could move this forum more into another direction to research for instance
antigravity or UFO propulsions or PSI energies or what will happen to humans after
death, etc... or something simular exotic...
Regards, Stefan.
Bruce_TPU:
--- Quote from: hartiberlin on August 04, 2007, 02:49:14 AM ---Hi Bruce,
many thanks for this nice comment.
This was only an example , how I could set it up now.
We could also leave this TPU builders group now as it is hidden
and use other areas to build non public boards in this forum,
where only paying members would have access to.
I like the idea, for some boards. It would help the builders very much, like Ironhead, Resin Rat and others. BUT as for this non public board, we will let Bob B. decide.
The question is, how we can raise enough money to support the builders
even more.
I think having a "donations area" that gives 100% of the donation to the builders. Builders would be required to meet preset guideline, to insure they are using the funds properly. Also, you could assemble a library of scientific Video, that provides advertising dollars. Also a library of scientific E-Books.
If for instance every month could be raised for example
3000 US$ via membership money, this money could
be donated in parts to several inventors, who are in need
to buy parts or better measurement equipments
or just for new parts or magnets, etc.. for new experiments
that we wish should be done to see, what effect would have this and this...
etc...
It would certainly spur inventiveness, but would have to be closely monitored in my opinion.
The question now is, with this worldwide members that we have over here
now about 8000 members so far, if we could do it this way, to get faster moving
and getting us faster to the goal to have soon an open source free energy unit.
I have not yet seen any picture or video of Bob?s Boyce TPU, so where is it ?
Pictures of Bob's Toroid can be seen, step by step in his thread. You will see it halfway finished. Please be patient and soon you will see it completely finished.
Sorry, I did not have much time the last days to study all of it over here,
cause I am pretty much involved to setup this new video system over here
and try to have a higher Google ranking for the keyword "free energy" for overunity.com,
and I succeeded and am now already in page 2 of Google with it.
So the question is, how long would it still take Bob or the others over here to
have a selfrunning TPU and do I still need to setup this paying membership site
to get it faster moving ?
If Bob really has a selfrunning TPU, is he able to post a video of it soon or at least a picture
lighting a bulb ?
When you say self running, please understand that we have no plans to remove the batteries from this device. They are a needed part of the control. A "recharge" system will be added to our controllers at a later date, to self charge the battery, from the toroid output.
Please be patient and all of us will have lots of video, lighting lots of bulbs and other things also. Bob B. has nothing to prove to any of us, and we already know it is very much OU because he states it. That is good enough for us. Also, if you would read the .PDF introduction, you can see he ran a golf cart off of it and what happened. Really, I know that your time is limited, but reading the .PDF would be of a big help for you. I will send you the unreleased updated version by email. It lacks some artwork, but will be of a help to you.
Also if the goal of an open source free energy system will be soon presented, and this
will be done by then ,
we could move this forum more into another direction to research for instance
antigravity or UFO propulsions or PSI energies or what will happen to humans after
death, etc... or something simular exotic...
This Toroidal Power Unit, will need MUCH research, before any of us think of moving on. Some here will have ideas of other coil configurations to test, using Bob's ingredients. Also, some I have spoken with are interested in shrinking this techknowledgy into modules, etc. So as you can see, just have a "working" TPU is the beginning of the real journey, and is in no way the end. So we will be at this for some time.
We also have interest in continuing research into Longitudinal Waves and the ability of this research to lead too new tech.
Regards, Stefan.
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