I must say it is good to see that so many people a keen on this type of device, however you really should be careful what you wish for. I will give you reality of the outcome first before i give you the shock of your life.

Reality is that the world stockmarket is mostly oil gas and coal driven, most large firms also invest in these firms including your superannuation funds, your banks, etc Banks only have govt g'teed saving accounts, and that means very basic saving with almost no interest, not your super saver or fixed term investment. all other accounts have fine print that says "we do not g'tee the performance of the fund" "or the return of your capital"!!!! so the world will as you know it be destroyed by the very thing you think will save it.

The bad news is that the motivation by someone may be that very thing, and in this case is that very thing.

For those who always wanted to see it happen, you will, on the 20th of June 2008 a perpetual motion machine will be released to the world. the machine was already built small scale and ran a car stereo. but the world needs to see something they can relate to, so it is being scaled up to 240 volt with a television plugged in.

Fortunately it is simple and easy to understand even to a housewife or school student that had no physics comprehension so the message and design will spread fast. Better still it can be fit to cars, or be made the size of a reactor. It really is over (the race)

As for being killed, many world physics professors know who I am, and have copies of patents for other devices i have built that are working tested units that also defy the laws of thermodynamics, one of which goes into production next year for the company who paid myself to design it.

The person most likely to be telling you the truth that it has been done (breaching the laws of thermodynamics) is the person who has already done it. So you can be certain that what comes is real i am attaching a copy of the Patent for The Thermal accelerator a built and tested piece of equipment that was rebuilt and retested by the company about to manufacture it. This device destroyed the known thermodynamic tables for energy and heat by over 20 percent.

But here is the part you will really love, if you have a thermocouple based thermostat (from elec stores about 20 dollars) you can build this at home ( remember it is patent protected so this is only for your own use as are the laws covering patents) and you could do this in a day with a hairdryer set in the position of the element set and fan array, for a few bucks.you can see as the best engineers in the field have seen that thermodynamics laws are toast.

Then you will know what comes is the real deal.

Also check surphzup.com

G'day all,

Just a little excerpt from the website http://www.surphzup.com

I will also release the photos and video and plans after that day on this site also, certain persons may request an invitation to view one of them on the day of release, but all attending will be required to provide verifiable identification with photographs, be contactable prior, and have credentials that can be checked.

I wonder, does he want my credit card number as well?? Sounds like a phishing site to me.

Hans von Lieven

He is stating to sound more and more like Lawrence :-)

Hans von Lieven

For the rat,

The patent was proof that the laws of thermodynamics had been breached, and by 20 percent in heatload calculations. This is NOT the perpetual motion machine, simply to show that the person making the claim of perpetual motion had already achieved what no other in history had, so you would feel comfortable in waiting.

Will be off until after xmas.

thanks

Hello Eskimo Quinn!
I hope you are right about this!
Im looking forward too 20.06.08!!
Good luck!

hi mike,

i like your intentions, but i think your approach may not satisfy the needs of many members.

i would like to suggest another approach::::

We take a corporation or small business ( perhaps overunity.com?) - create the device and put it into use immediately to say power a small "office light".

ok:: now, the device/technology in question would be in "commercial use", which disqualifies it for a Patent, under the U.S. Patent Office, and the Patent offices of most other countries.

This will protect the technology/device(s) and keep them in the public domain forever.

For Heavesn sake, Stefan, spend a bit of this money on getting overunity.com running better before it breaks under the weight.

Confucius, he say: "There is a limit to the number of sacks of coal you can transport on a motorcycle before you need to get a van.

Hey guys, If every 9739 member would put e.g. 15$ to the prize POT ,, it would be: 9739*15 =.146.085 $

it is quite good amount is'nt it?