They recovered it from the grand canyon, there are crashed ones lying around, we have to find one. They haven't recovered that many there is probably a couple of thousand unrecovered right here in North America. If you see a ufo in the sky fine get a pic. But, you can't reverse engineer a pic, keep your eyes open for what we really need, a crashed one. Take camo net for the terrain your in when you go into rural and wild areas. Cover it an find help that doesn't agree with government policy. Watch out for orgs like MUFON and avoid them. The gov has all these type orgs intimidated. Have you heard of samples gone missing? I've been trying someone else give it a try, we need to convince these other nations of the truth, when they find a ufo reverse engineer it for themselves. Don't give it to the U.S.A. like an obedient dog! The USA is not sharing technology, it's hording it, and it's bulling and stealing. If it crashes on someone elses soil it belongs to them. I hope I convinced you we don't need another picture, we need to recover a ufo, speacially I hope I reached the divers in our group with this statement.

Now why don't someone get smart and seach "4000 year old ufo"" uso "" Intelligent Arial Craft" ebe craft or disk"" anyone of You figure out what the gov is calling them now? http://www.cseti.com/crashes/crash132.htm

This guy commited occupational harrycarry and talking about unavailible scientist;

http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/stories/s143053.htm    

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Water on Mars - as recently as yesterday
   
Friday, 23 June 2000

martian gullies
Image taken by Mars Global Surveyor on 22.1.00 showing gullies (3 km wide) in the martian southern hemisphere which researchers think are due to an aquifer less than a few hundred meters beneath the surface. (Pic: NASA/JPL/Malin Space Science Systems)
While researchers have long suspected water existed in the past on Mars, new visual evidence suggests it might have flowed on the red planet as recently as yesterday.

Images to be published in the 30 June issue of the journal Science show new landforms, never before seen on Mars, which researchers think is evidence of a ground water supply, similar to an aquifer.

"We see features that look like gullies formed by flowing water and the deposits of soil and rocks transported by these flows. The features appear to be so young that they might be forming today," said prinicpal investigator, Dr Michael Malin.

The gullies are on otherwise geologically young surfaces which lack other landforms such as impact craters which would suggest an ancient landscape. The images taken by the high-resolution "eye" of the Mars Global Surveyor show steep-sided gullies, sinuous channels, and deltas of debris and suggest that liquid water may be lurking at shallow depths beneath the martian surface.

The presence of liquid water in the upper crust of Mars could be a boon for future human expeditions to the planet that could use the water for everything from basic survival to fuel cell energy and rocket propellant, the Science authors say. Some scientists believe that if life exists on Mars, it will be found in or near a water source.

Pic: NASA/JPL/Malin Space Science SystemsThe researchers calculate that seven community swimming pools worth of water was necessary to transport the amount of material seen in the debris fans. However the challenge has been to explain how any water on the martian surface could have survived evaporation under the sizzling martian temperatures, long enough to create the gullies.

Malin and colleague Kenneth S. Edgett suggest that the water exists in a porous layer of rock buried a few hundred meters below the martian surface, kept liquid by the pressure exerted by overlying rock. They propose that water seeps through the porous layer until it is exposed at the surface inside a crater or other depression. These first exposed trickles may freeze into a small ice "dam" at the surface. Meanwhile, groundwater continues to percolate through the rock and build up pressure behind this ice dam, creating a reservoir of fluid that eventually bursts through the dam and runs downslope, like the surge of flash flood waters.

If this is the correct scenario, the researchers suggest that the formation of the martian gullies may be linked to their location. Most of them occur in locations that get the least amount of sunlight in the martian day.

"There's still a finite chance that they were formed some other way," says Malin, "but there's a high probability they were formed by water."

The research team now plans to continue surveillance of the landforms to gather more evidence to support their water hypothesis and to see if they can catch the gullies in action.

Amazing what scientist say when they get left out of the action.
 Note the sizzling temperature part. Ice caps at the poles, there must be some moderation in between Sherlock.
Other observations  If the atmosphere is dusty it probably was from yesterday.

Some other interesting ancient technology
These images were found on the ceiling beams of a 3000-year old New Kingdom Temple,
located several hundred miles south of Cairo and the Giza Plateau, at Abydos.

Where did the people who carved the depictions get the images from?  Some theories may say time travel? Parralel universies? who knows...


(http://www.crystalinks.com/hieroplanes.jpg)

3000 year old
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compare to todays
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more here http://www.crystalinks.com/ancientaircraft.html

also
(http://www.crystalinks.com/egyptlightbulbs2.jpg)
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http://www.crystalinks.com/egyptscience.html

The photo below is of another gold pre-Incan figure.  It is angled so that the non-zoomorphic characteristics are easier to see. http://members.tripod.com/TheUnexplainedNet/Page7tr.htm
Does it look like a modern day delta wing airplane?

 

http://www.philipcoppens.com/bbl_plane.html

Hey have a look at this, I think we have a long history

Wayne

Unfortunate, a group has found a f89 that was missing that appearently was chasing a ufo. A huge tear drop object is beside it, they are the only objects in the area. The people involved have a big mouth and can't recover this until next year. This object will never reach civilian control. I tried to get divers interested in hunting, infact a previous post in this topic deals with this. We have been searching in the National forest here and have not even thought of looking at the state forest. We lack man power and maybe have covered 15 sq. miles so far. We are marking the area covered in a nondisclosed manner. We need one ufo hidden in a safe area. We need it reverse engineered by non scientist, nongovernment affiliated personell. These can be gotten at high schools if chosen carefully.

The heat came from the sky, I am sure, and at one o'clock in the morning it just doesn't make any sense. Also noticed just after posting things cooled off around here and my computer started to run cooler. Things are going back to odd though and my computer is running with a core temp. now that requires me to turn the 20" box fan I have against it on again (I haven't had the cover on this machine since I bought it, but I was able to run it for a couple of weeks without turning on the fan right after the post.), something the government is doing probably. Otherwise why would posting info seem to help. Could they be doing something to cause this global warming?