Thanks God!!!

I was bleeding here...
Can we move on now?
I'm ready! 

Now i know i said i would not post here anymore, but i just can't help it...
Erfinder says
BEMF is the the field returning to the source (IMPLOSION!!!). The source is the VOID!Flow returning to the source is not restricted, nor resisted it is assisted, and self organizing in it's effort to return. It is said that a magnetic fields collapse, but this has never been adequately explained. BEMF is explosive radiation, the result of rapidly cavitating a flowing field. Collapse in this since does not mean in on itself, but outward towards and into the void, as I said currents behave differently when they are pulsed, become familiar with this difference. Flux lines are curved, curvature ends in the Void.

Centripetal motion (EMF) gives birth to centrifugal (BEMF)! BEMF is Centrifugal, you cannot have centrifugal motion without centripetal. If you do come up with a way you will be the first! Instead of trying to get BEMF alone we should concentrate on the relationship EMF has to BEMF, and how they are used to produce implosion.
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If Erfinder would accept that there are 2 individual magnetic currents running against each other in a right hand twisting motion then he would have a better description of what the charges (magnets) are doing in the coil wire....
So many big words...why all the confusion?
Here is what Tesla did.........
"Counsel

You say the energy was 1,000 times greater. Do you mean that the voltage was increased, or the current, or both?

Tesla

Yes [both]. To be more explicit, I take a very large self-inductance and a comparatively small capacity, which I have constructed in a certain way so that the electricity cannot leak out. I thus obtain a low frequency; but, as you know, the electromagnetic radiation is proportionate to the square root of the capacity divided by the self-induction. I do not permit the energy to go out; I accumulate in that circuit a tremendous energy. When the high potential is attained, if I want to give off electromagnetic waves, I do so, but I prefer to reduce those waves in quantity and pass a current into the earth, because electromagnetic wave energy is not recoverable while that [earth] current is entirely recoverable, being the energy stored in an elastic system."....

"Power is our mainstay, the primary source of our many-sided energies. With sufficient power at our disposal we can satisfy most of our wants and offer a guaranty for safe and comfortable existence to all, except perhaps to those who are the greatest criminals of all - the voluntarily idle."
Nikola Tesla.
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Ed.L "..........they are the N and S pole magnets, which are coming out of a transformer's secondary winding's ends, one half giong up in the air and the other half in the ground in increasing and decreasing numbers. The numbers are regulated by the transmitting tube and the speed by the voltage."......"The magnets are not running up to the ionosphere and back again, but run horizontallt until they are lost...."
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BEMF is the product of the motion of the individual N and S pole magnets and the speed and direction and position they are in relative to the conductor atoms and each other.......It is quite simple really 
I can make 2 permanent magnets with a single uncoiled copper wire, and the poles in the magnets will be opposite each other at the same end...
Now make a coil with iron core and put a steel tube over the coil.....where the coil core end is north....the tube end is south pole.
Ed.L "This magnet making with a single wire, it demonstrates how all magnets are made"......
"In the Northern hemisphere the North pole magnets are going down, and the South pole magnets are going up"....
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Scotty......
Leedskalnin.com

@barbosi

Not so fast! I broke my pencil.

@ERfinder and all

I understand about EMF, BEMF, Cap charge and discharge, induction,  implosion, explosion, even whirling, etc., but, can anyone please answer any of these questions. Maybe Grade 1 level but hey.

In all the Tesla patents that have been discussed, Tesla never indicated a positive or negative terminal.

As an example, in patent 568177, page 1 of text, line 73, he states as follows;

"In the present instance one terminal, as B, is connected to one of the binding posts, from which the circuit IS LED THROUGH ONE FIELD-COIL, D, the brushes and commutator E the other field-coil, F, etc."

"The other terminal, as A, connects with a second brush, K, bearing on the controller, so that the current which passes through and operates the motor is periodically interrupted".

Here again he never really says which direction the current potential from pole A passes through the device.

So my fundamental question is how do you know which is + or -. Tesla obvisously wanted his rotor in 568177 to turn a specific way in order to move the air flow through the ozone chamber. But from his design, you don't know the motor winding directions, etc.

My second question would be, in Teslas' day did they consider that current flowed from the negative to the positive or from positive to negative? Or both?

I know this may sound very basic, but I can't help asking myself why ERfinder put a + and a - sign on his highlight of the 568177 patent. Why??

Another question. if Tesla used the Earth as a medium to store energy, he obviously expected to draw power from there also. But general thinking would have it that we only draw power from the positive and we charge to the positive and we usually kill the negative. What if both polarities had a two way function (2+2-), and we've only been using a three way function (2+1-).

Case in point. ERfinder says look to nature. A lightning bolt never strikes the Earth. As it comes down, a plume of lighting rises upwards to meet the descending bolt. Now why would the negative rise to meet the positive. So what happens when a cap discharges. Does the negative move forward into the secondaries to meet the discharge at the primaries?

What I am confused about in fact is that to understand ERfinders teaching, we have to shake the old way of thinking. So what if that starts with how we understand current potential.

What if there was what I am thinking to call Full DC;
FAR = Full amperage rating
CD = Cap discharge
FI = Field implosion
Battery function
Positive terminal - charge at 20% of FAR by CD - power output at 80% of FAR.
Negative terminal - charge at 80% of FAR by FI - power output at 20% of FAR

Of course this could also be Full B%#@ S*&?. Just thinking out of the box. But I really need to resolve this question before I can move forward.

Well there's still the pdf I posted on page 63 but it was not updated till the present. You should get a copy in case he asks Stephan to remove it also.

Plus here is his last post with the drawing that I had saved to study.

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Hello,

Before you all take that trip away from the subject at hand, here I go again.

Referring to patent 568,177, the simplest of the three patents focusing on Fig. 1

Take note that these three components are connected together!  I have high lightened the components I am specifically referring to.  F, M and L.

The importance of this is when the field of the motor coil F collapses a discharge current is produced by motor coil F, this discharge current is of a high potential, and raises the potential of the primary M, and the plate of capacitor L to the same potential as that of the motor coil F!  This is how Tesla used the discharge current to charge his capacitor!

Regards
Grin  Who is really ready?
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Whatever the reason he may have, this is major uncool to have removed all his posts. Must have taken him hours. Was this a scam? Another SM saga? No, can't be. Maybe he jumped into his time-machine and went back to 1888. Maybe he was bullshitting us all along. Or maybe the MIB payed him a visit to make sure he does not spill the beans. Or maybe he realized he is just as lost as us. These are all valid questions.

Anyways, here's an update on the set-up I indicated on page 77. Well the system has been on since then and with the switch left open, doing nothing, the battery started at 9.34 vdc and is now 11.25 vdc. So there is definitely a charging effect with the switch simply left open. Very interesting indeed. I make no apologies. Even Tesla experimented on a hunch. Now I'll just work to tweak it to increase the charging effect. I will start a new thread on it.

But, I really would have liked to have an answer to my last post. So can anyone explain to me why he put a + and a - where he did?

Mr Erfinder or Admin:

Please don't remove Erfinder's teachingfs! I just found this forum and thread a few days ago and looking forward to studying the truths!  PLEASE....

Regards

ChrisC

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what happened
im in a different time zone, so seem to have missed the climax.