Author Topic: Tuerkish motor-generator free energy machine ! (Read 45889 times)

hartiberlin · « **Reply #45 on:** October 26, 2005, 03:33:25 AM »

Please have a closer look at the patent:

http://v3.espacenet.com/textdoc?DB=EPODOC&IDX=WO2004091083+&F=8

Also study the cited patents at the right side of the page.

It seems that all other cited patents and simular systems use geared up motor-generator combinations.

It could be, that the faster speed of the generator produces more power
than the motor needs to drive it at slower speed.

Due to the different speeds also the drag back forces are geared? down,
so if the motor needs more energy to drive the generator in say 1 sec time interval
the generator already has generated more energy in that same time interval, cause it just
runs at a faster speed...!?

Maybe it has to do with different inertia speeds of the rotors inside the motor and the generator .

Normally you would need to have the motor have an efficiency bigger than 100 %
to get a motor-generator combination , which is
coupled with a 1:1 gear, accelerating and not deaccelerating !

Maybe if the generator is geared up maybe 2:1 to run at higher speeds than the motor this over 100 % motor is not needed ?

Maybe this is just the simple reason, why these systems can work ?

Regards, Stefan.

hartiberlin · « **Reply #46 on:** October 26, 2005, 06:41:09 AM »

Can somebody please translate this into english ?

http://zaman.com.tr/?bl=haberler&trh=20050111&hn=130993

Thanks.
Regards, Stefan.

hartiberlin · « **Reply #47 on:** October 27, 2005, 11:13:30 PM »

Rolf Keppler just got an email from the relatives of the inventor saying,
that the new demo at the 29th is canceled due to health reasons...
Hmm.. too bad...

Here is the German text:

Liebe/r Rundbriefleser/in

Es tut mir sehr leid, euch mitteilen zu m?ssen, dass Herr Erol Sert mir
per eMail mitgeteilt hat, dass die Veranstaltung am Samstag 29.10. in
Dortmund im MAKSIM aus gesundheitlichen Gr?nden ausf?llt.
Ob der Grund stimmt, kann ich nicht sagen.
Ich habe heute nachmittag mit den Mitarbeitern von Legal Power
gesprochen. Noch nicht einmal die haben gewusst, dass die Veranstaltung
ausf?llt. Dies ist eine traurige Kommunikation.

Ich bin zumindest heute sehr ver?rgert dar?ber gewesen. Eine
Veranstaltung so kurzfristig abzusagen bringt nur ?rger. So kann man
eigentlich nicht mit Menschen umspringen. Ich hoffe, dass ihr mein
Schreiben nicht als Spam betrachtet. Damit aber niemand umsonst
hinf?hrt, schreibe ich dieses eMail.
In der Regel versende ich ja nur einmal im Monat oder alle zwei Monate
einen Rundbrief. Ich hoffe, dass Ihr mir diese Nachricht verzeihen
k?nnt.

Freundliche Gr??e von Rolf Keppler

Kator01 · « **Reply #48 on:** October 27, 2005, 11:39:55 PM »

Hallo,

ich verweise nur auf meinen post vom 17.Okt auf Seite 2

Altruistisch w?re sofortiger Open Source.
Ich will nicht unken, aber es wird enden, wie gehabt.

Was hat denn Herr Keppler erwartet ? Entweder ist alles fake oder der Mann wurde gekauft.

Kator

GM · « **Reply #49 on:** October 27, 2005, 11:54:56 PM »

Quote from: Kator01 on October 27, 2005, 11:39:55 PM

Entweder ist alles fake oder der Mann wurde gekauft.

Gekauft? Aber warum dann erst jetzt?
Er hat das Ding auch in der T?rkei schon vorgef?hrt und Doktor Durate aus NL hat es auch schon in den Fingern gehabt und etwas dar?ber publiziert.

Allerdings ist diese Absage jetzt wirklich ein Schlag in's Gesicht. Schade, sehr schade.

Markus

Kator01 · « **Reply #50 on:** October 28, 2005, 12:24:52 AM »

Markus,

das ist doch klar. Die Anzeichen waren ja schon bei der ersten Vorf?hrung zu sehen. Erst gibt es ein technischen Problem und man f?hrt nur einen nichtssagenden Teilversuch und dann f?hrt man die volle R?ckzugsschine. Geordneter R?ckzug in Raten, nenn man das. Der war schon vor der ersten Demo gekauft.
Das Muster ist immer dasgleiche. Vielleicht lernen die Menschen daraus und machen ohne grosses TraRa sofortigen open source. Aber wenn die Kohle knapp ist ....

Gr?sse
Kator

hartiberlin · « **Reply #51 on:** October 31, 2005, 01:17:28 PM »

Here is another turkish patent of the inventor, which shows
a little more details in the pictures,
but unfortunately they are a bit blurry.
There are some mysterious kone-shaped rotors or
something like this.
http://v3.espacenet.com/textdoc?DB=EPODOC&IDX=TR200403517T&F=0
Regards, Stefan.

hartiberlin · « **Reply #52 on:** October 31, 2005, 07:13:05 PM »

Here is the full patent as an atachment to this posting.

Kator01 · « **Reply #53 on:** November 01, 2005, 12:05:03 AM »

Hi Folks,

see comments of jln-Labs-Forum on this subject

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jlnlabs/message/35848

Regards Kator

gezgin · « **Reply #54 on:** December 06, 2005, 08:33:06 PM »

Hi. Im living turkiye and interesting this machine. can i buy or make a small one ? is there any diagram(jlnlabs.org's) like patent files.
i look patent figures but ididnt understand ac alternator. its have magnets, coils but not clear.
its like GMC Holding Corp "self-running" magnetic motor?

gezgin · « **Reply #55 on:** December 19, 2005, 10:23:19 AM »

Another turkish patent, electrical energy production system.
maybe same machine ?
220 V, 1 kW input, 2kW output....

http://v3.espacenet.com/origdoc?DB=EPODOC&IDX=TR200200720&F=0&QPN=TR200200720 (turkish)

cassetteman1 · « **Reply #56 on:** August 29, 2012, 09:57:13 PM »

Hi, I'm new here
I'm french, sorry for my bad expression, I do not pronounce any fact to the English ...
But is this is about the only forum where I just express myself freely.
Good here I would like to know if I could make a powerful generator of several kilowatts like this:

With a generator like this:
http://cgi.ebay.fr/Stromerzeuger-ohne-Motor-STC-20-400V-20kW-3-phasig-Synchron-Generator-STC-20-AVR-/320851805427?pt=DE_Haus_Garten_Heimwerker_Generatoren&hash=item4ab44204f3#ht_1772wt_1157

And an engine like this:
http://cgi.ebay.fr/Drehstrommotor-Elektromotor-Motor-3-KW-3-0-KW-3-00-kW-3000-U-min-B3-/320866280827?pt=Motoren_Getriebe&hash=item4ab51ee57b#ht_1150wt_1397

Both devices connect in close circuit with a belt notch, and a cable connecting

As shown in this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fv53K9MnDuM

I'd like to get into this project, but I hesitate seen the astronomical price to make a generator like that, I'm not sure its running.
Video on his walk, but not all the time leaves positive feedback ...

Looking forward to hearing the answers,
thank

e2matrix · « **Reply #57 on:** August 30, 2012, 07:00:55 PM »

cassetteman1, The Witts generator may or may not be a fake. They are not giving out the info on how it works. They want to charge a lot of money just to come and see it. There are a lot of very smart motor wizards on these forums and at this time very few if any have a generator that can put out several kilowatts freely. Don't waste your money on buying a motor and generator as it is NOT easy to get free power or we would all be doing that by now. Keep your eyes open though as there are several technologies being discussed here that may get into production in the near future. Those will hopefully provide nearly free energy for the general public if they can get by the barriers of the controlling powers of the world.

cassetteman1 · « **Reply #58 on:** August 30, 2012, 08:11:58 PM »

Hi, thank you for your answer, e2metrix,
okay, I see!
But would it be possible, out of curiosity?

Something with the weight gears, or size maybe?
But it is in any way I do not buy me any Middle it, so this is just to know.
thank

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