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Pirate88179

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Re: Can someone explain what's going on here?
« Reply #15 on: August 25, 2012, 06:45:47 PM »
Which way is the top spinning?


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Re: Can someone explain what's going on here?
« Reply #16 on: August 25, 2012, 08:45:20 PM »
Maybe not, you could be talking about one of Sandy Kidd's demonstrations. Again, not faked, exactly, but not what it seems either.

http://www.gyroscopes.org/propulsion.asp

That looks a lot like what I remember.  It was a long time ago when I saw the documentary.

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Re: Can someone explain what's going on here?
« Reply #17 on: August 25, 2012, 08:51:01 PM »
I seem to remember Tk had a video... something like a motor on a gimbal mounted on a rod of some sort.
Yes, I think you mean the one where I took a powered aircraft gyro in its housing but out of its own gimbals, and mounted it so that it could be driven around an axis at right angles to its rotation axis, but around the same center, with power fed thru sliprings. This was hung out on a pivoted arm/yoke assembly that "gyrated" in interesting ways when the precession motor was turned on. That is also an illustration of forced precession but is more complicated than Laithewaite's simple demonstration of forced precession around the gyro's natural precession axis. I call that demo the "drunken robot".

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Re: Can someone explain what's going on here?
« Reply #18 on: August 25, 2012, 08:57:57 PM »
That looks a lot like what I remember.  It was a long time ago when I saw the documentary.

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You're welcome.

Kidd used a counterbalance system, where most of the weight of his gyro assembly was taken up by a cord running up over a set of pulleys over to a counterbalance weight. So when the gyro system was spinning... or vibrating.... the apparent weight of the system would decrease enough for the counterweight to descend, pulling the gyro system up, looking like it was truly levitating. This isn't a real deception on Sandy's part... he was entirely sincere and worked really hard for many years, and maybe still is. But it is self-deception nevertheless, as a vibrating system would behave the same way without gyros at all, just from getting the vibrations right. As is amply shown by the many Dean Drives, Cox Drives, Tolchin devices and other inertial or propellantless propulsion / antigravity systems out there.

Incidentally, the same sort of counterweight lift system was used by TTBrown in his electric flying saucer demonstrations. The heavy saucer electrodes weren't lifted completely by his field effects or corona winds.... just enough lift was required to allow the counterweight to start descending. The CW is what lifted most of the weight of the apparatus.

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Re: Can someone explain what's going on here?
« Reply #19 on: August 25, 2012, 10:49:27 PM »
Which way is the top spinning?


Bill
   doesn't matter-hint train tracks going north and south has one rail worn more than the other
 

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Re: Can someone explain what's going on here?
« Reply #20 on: August 26, 2012, 05:49:59 PM »
   Talking about precession is the entire solar system precessing or is this just a local phenomenon of the Earth's?  I guess we would have to pick a spot on an outer planet and see if this is a peculiar motion of Earth.  Acquarius has been dawning for a awhile now and just wondering if the same is true for the rest of the planets.  If this is not a local phenomenon but a solar system phenomenon it may explain solar system wide planetary temperature rises as the solar accretion disc takes on a different angle to the interstellar dark energy field.  I think most of this dark energy is free proton clouds that the entire galaxy moves relavent to.  It could explain Telsa's radiant energy collection and various ionosphereic phenomenon along with Van Allen belts etc. and a high concentration of ionized hydrogen collecting in the northpole regions here on Earth.  If the Earth moves relavent to a fixed cloud of proton's and it is negatively charged the only thing shielding us from this onslaught is the magnetosphere.  The Earth velocity relavent to space is 600km/sec and the Earth is charged negative so I would imagine once inside the magnetosphere they would be accelerated quite alot and push us towards the Earth.