Ok. I have several questions:

1. How is that different from a perpetuum mobile?
2. What kind of energy is the device consuming?
3. Why is the water still needed? (Why not producing electricity directly from the novel energy source, without the 30m dam, pipes and everything else?)

Tinu

That question will make history in any over unity community. Very, very good question!




Vidar

Interesting question!


An over unity device, is per definition a device which produce more energy than it consumes. Assume that it works. What would happen if the device wasn't loaded? It would be able to feed back more energy than it consumes. Therfor the device would most probably self destroy within a very short time. Say it double the "looped input energy" every second. If friction is already over powered by the device, friction will never be a limit for how wrong this can go. Start with 1mW over unity, and double that every second for one minute run. Would the device be able to handle 1.153 x 10¹⁵ Watt of power?

As I said earlier, I don't know how the device works, and so cannot answer specific questions. I simply do not know.

The feedback will be pretty much destructable within relatively short time.

Given that neither of us know how this thing actually works, it doesn't make sense to make suppositions like that, nor for me to try to answer.

So, therfor I do believe that, even if one succeed in building a working prototype, it will not last for long.

Cool.

As for the pump, the fluid must some how increase in mass for each loop. How is that suppose to happen?

I don't know.

As for the money: There is a countless number of over unity inventors that never have the money they need. Isn't that a paradox?


Vidar

Paradox? No.

1. Tell your friend to name the invention/process after himself


2. Make the plans easy freely available all over the internet, send copies to the old media, everywhere around the world, just make sure your name is everywhere on the prints, as watermark, as name for the proces etc etc.


Why?


The wide spreading of ALL the details will safe you from blackmail, harassment, goldiggers  or MIB's , the information is out, so no reason for going after you (except revenge)


The naming all over place will make it hopefully the common name worldwide.  People will copy the thing, improve, whatever, no problem, just try to keep the name on it!
Encourage them even to improve and built, just state everyone is allowed, as long as they use the name.
No legal stuff, no patent, just go! and let is spread.


Now you can try to cash in with marketing just the name and fame, and if it operates as told, you will have world wide fame.   


100% guarantee?  No, but the best, fasted ,wisest thing and human thing to do IMHO and probably also the most profitable.

Pretty good advice, thankyou.

The only thing, though, as I said initially, is that he has been trying to get funding for easily 15 years, and is absolutely invested in getting a patent. Which I guess is understandable - when you've spent that long looking forward to something like that, it's hard to go back on it.

Your welcome,


I do think however the patent will destroy him, financially or mentally.

I've said the same thing. That being said, I think you underestimate the stubbornness of an elderly carpenter who has had a big idea rattling around his head for years and years

As I understand there is no working demo-model jet?

There was. And it isn't a jet. It's a pump.

That will make it even harder patent-wise, and very hard investor wise.

He has stated to me that if there was money in reserve for patenting costs, he would rebuild the device and apply. His idea is wear the build cost himself, with investor money being spent on patent costs alone, then lease the patent out to anyone who wants it.

No matter how much he has invested, If it works, the only wise thing is name it, spread it.

You're preaching to the choir, pilgrim

If it would be the energy solution and proven to be useful, he would make millions in the speech and lecture circuit alone the next few years.

He's old. He wants to retire, not lecture. Plus he wants to "win".

Besides that he would be helping a lot of people, and the environment.

Agreed.

Be a rich hero or a stubborn poor man ;-)

I don't think he wants to be a hero. Just retired.

There is no only one person that can be rich of OU invention.  OU must be shared to all people. Tesla , Moray, and many other have been invented many OU devices and what happen to them?
Tell your inventor that he cant be rich of such devices. There is no profit from patents. We live /still/ in capitalism. Many people will loose BIG money of such OU devices.

Servitude and oppression has everything to do with free energy.
If you want to break free from servitude, you must be prepared to fight your oppressors.

Then free energy is a matter of fact.

There is no electricity shortage other than the one they impose on us.

Hi George,
That pump I suppose is purely hypothetical, right?
Cheers,
Tinu

I just visited this thread for the first time.
It occurs to me that an OU.com crackpot Neo-Nazi and his son in Poland (Dr. Nowak or "Dr. No" is his name) are trying to interest investors, etc., for their group's invention.   It takes hot water from an ordinary hot water heater tank and generates a substantial amount of electricity from it.

People around here dismiss his serious lack of details and drawings/schematics as being non-informative on an open forum like this.   'Dr. No' also indicates---his opinion---that the "Boys at Langley" know what he's doing.

Well, okay then, maybe so.   No one I've ever seen made money or was successful at this kind of endeavored industry or hobby/pastime.   If he becomes famous enough to have his name everywhere, that's different.   Witness Jesse Ventura and his conspiracy show.   An interviewed program subject said on camera, Ventura was too famous to kill.   And then make him a martyr.

Take this for what it's worth to Just George, his friend, and all others.   There are complex factors involved, sometimes.

--Lee

If this device can only really be used in a large scale situation that may be a big plus for your friend.  It's not going to replace car engines although if it drives down the cost of electricity it could make electric vehicles a bit more appealing.  Being a large scale device it sounds like it would be most advantageous to power companies and large scale industrial sites.  That makes it a lot less threatening as a free energy device.  One of the ways he could make money would be to sell detailed plans to such entities however unless he has a working prototype it will be a hard sell.  Many brilliant people on energy forums think they have the way to create free energy all worked out in their head.  Then they try building it only to find a tiny glitch in the plan makes it unworkable.   There is an existing device that has been shown which is claimed to generate power by moving water using opposing forces of gravity and bouyancy.  If I could recall the web site I'd link it here but it sounds like it may involve a similar principle to your friends idea.  There is discussion on this site somewhere about it.  That unit is small enough to be used on an individual home.  I'm not sure where that is at now but I certainly don't see them available at Home Depot.  It's a hard call but I don't know how much money your elder friend will be able to spend with his time left and I'll bet the fame, good Karma and probable money he could make just on releasing the info would do him better than a pile of cash so big he'd never have time to spend it all.