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penguin hood

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Re: SMOT
« Reply #105 on: June 27, 2006, 01:00:29 PM »
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start point hieght : 6cm , ending point height 5.5cm
I agree with gn0stik.
I did the SMOT experiment time ago and the steel ball really move up the ramp from lowest to highest point. No doubts about this and it is amazing. However I don't claim SMOT overunity.

If your SMOT fails I recommend you:
-Check that poles nearest to the top of the inclined plane are closer to the track than they are at the bottom.
(The SMOT works because the magnetic force is greater when the magnets are closer to the steel ball, and since the net force is towards the top of the ramp, the motion of the ball is also that direction, making the ball move up the track. This is why it is imperative that the magnets are constantly getting closer to the ball, in order to create a net force upwards.)
-Use a lightest steel ball.
-The track must be no magnetic material, for example aluminium, plastic, etc.

c0mster

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Re: SMOT
« Reply #106 on: June 27, 2006, 04:29:46 PM »
I also did extensive testing of the SMOT.  My findings were that there was no gain in the height of the ball at the other end of the ramp. It came very close to the same elevation as the drop point put not enough to make a closed loop. It seems that as the ball passes the end of the SMOT the pull of the magnets on the ball as it clears the gate are enough to remove 95% of any momentum gained on the ramp.   

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backchan

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my SMOT image
« Reply #107 on: June 27, 2006, 05:02:38 PM »
ramp is plastic
running ramp is aluminium

and if SMOT ramp is long or short or magnet so high or so lower then a bead can't escape SMOT

also My SMOT is height gain

gn0stik

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Re: SMOT
« Reply #108 on: June 27, 2006, 11:30:36 PM »
This is a much better angle than your first picture.

If you go back in the thread, you'll see my suggestions for improving the smot.

You might want to try those. Cutting a radius into the end of the ramp, and a notch out, as well as shaping the last two magnets, and spacing them away from the track a bit farther, to change the flux at that point.

I haven't personally tried them, but I've heard it works.

If I were working on a ramp, I think it would be the adsitt design personally, I think it looks more promising.
but I think Don shows all the different techniques necessary to close the loops in his experiments, he just doesn't put them all together for you.

There are benefits and drawbacks to both the adsitt, and the smot.

With the adsitt ramp, you have to get permalloy sheet metal(good luck). And with the smot, you will never have very good torque after it drops out of the ramp.  Even if you can get it to enter another one, a motor is only as good as it's weakest point.

penguin hood

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Re: SMOT
« Reply #109 on: June 28, 2006, 12:30:40 PM »
Missing something... If the steel ball ejects from ramp with very high kinetic energy, Overunity Forum take no responsibility for damage using free energy. ;D

Backchan, what is your native language?
I want to let you know that also I'm learning english in self taught manner and I have developed some useful methods, at least for me. If you is interested can contact me.

backchan

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Re: SMOT
« Reply #110 on: June 29, 2006, 04:37:37 AM »
I live in Korea(south)

penguin hood

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Re: SMOT
« Reply #111 on: June 29, 2006, 03:59:26 PM »
Backchan,
Unfortunatly our native languages are too differents (my language is spanish). However I recently wrote a small program to open automatically the lyrics texts while listen the song from a radio over internet that can be useful for all languages.
It Serves to exercise the sense of hearing by read the exact english text from the listened songs.
The program is for Linux operative systems. Linux is in mather's software the equivalent to free energy is in matter's energy. The operative system Windows is the "fossil fuel".
If anybody want try Linux for first time I recommend visit http://damnsmalllinux.org. It is not the better Linux version but it is the easier to test because can be fast downloaded from internet and run from one Live CD without affect the hard disk.

gn0stik

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Re: SMOT
« Reply #112 on: June 29, 2006, 04:08:40 PM »
Gnoppix is better for a livecd version of linux. It runs very quickly off of a cd, and has a full graphical (Gnu) (KDE)desktop for knoppix.  It's mostly for fixing problems on computers, and surfing around but there are some games and multimedia applications on there as well. It also runs well from a virtual machine like VMware server, or virtual pc. Or bootstrap if you run mac.

TheOne

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Re: SMOT
« Reply #113 on: June 29, 2006, 04:42:20 PM »
debian is best, very easy to install and update

penguin hood

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Re: SMOT
« Reply #114 on: June 30, 2006, 01:09:49 PM »
I agree with TheOne, if I decide to install a operative system, I should install Linux Debian.
But if I must recommend to someone that never have installed neither a operative system nor Linux, the problem is that Debian must be installed to hard disk and this can be hardly for a newbie. The newbie want see fast results to know what is without danger can lose by mistake information on his computer. Moreover if he have not another computer to test.
Then the better option is a Linux Live CD option because are a good way to demo or preview an operating system without having to install it to a hard drive.
Now I agree with gn0stik, Gnoppix is a great version. Infact it is Debian based and can run from live CD. But Gnoppix require download one 650 MB file. (Too time to download still using broad band) while this another Linux Debian based version called Damn Small Linux require download only 50 MB and it can run pretty well on very old computers where others can't.

The procedure to use Damn Small Linux is easy (more info http://damnsmalllinux.org):

1. Download the dsl-3.0.1.iso file from:
ftp://ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/damnsmall/current/

2. Burn a CD with the file as explained here:
http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/wiki/index.php/Burning_a_Bootable_CD

3. Reboot the computer and welcomed to the wonderful world of Linux

FreeEnergy

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Re: SMOT
« Reply #115 on: October 10, 2006, 10:31:47 AM »
better yet see www.xubuntu.org or www.ubuntu.com


peace

djancak

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Re: SMOT
« Reply #116 on: October 19, 2006, 08:41:37 PM »
So has anybody built a closed loop SMOT yet? I don't see why it wouldn't work. I attached a 3d animation of a SMOT.

FreeEnergy

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Re: SMOT
« Reply #117 on: October 19, 2006, 10:49:59 PM »
So has anybody built a closed loop SMOT yet? I don't see why it wouldn't work. I attached a 3d animation of a SMOT.

that is what i think, but most people insist on saying it wont work. why?
i have heard it works for a bit and stops for some reason? anyone?

FreeEnergy

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Re: SMOT
« Reply #118 on: October 19, 2006, 10:53:10 PM »

djancak

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Re: SMOT
« Reply #119 on: October 20, 2006, 12:09:21 AM »
I am annoyed by the fact that I have seen no videos of a working or a non-working closed-loop SMOT.  :-\