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Author Topic: HHO Cell - Stan Meyer Design.  (Read 312900 times)

dankie

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Re: HHO Cell - Stan Meyer Design.
« Reply #210 on: July 30, 2009, 09:43:08 PM »
Well I have abandonned this idea of high voltage doing work ever since I heard the Stephen Meyers interview , he says that his system is more advanced than Stans and that he went back to square one . I work from 24 to 120 volts and a very advanced  sine wave oscillator  I built for this special purpose . I can control both frequency and gain seperatly with a single resistor . So If AM or PLL self regulating looping is needed I'm ready , and I think it is . I dont believe square waves or HV will "massage" the water correctly , I think this is a misleading disinfo campaign . Everything resonates with sine waves and this is how radio and radar works , also , getting an effective power transfer with square waves is just not meant to be .

I am now working with the Stephen Meyers method , it is much easier to adjust the impedance matching and electron shift with seperate common components ... No annoying big coils to wind ... some dc offset , the signal and the impedance ringing circuit ... The cell didnt heta up simly because of the electron shift that occurs , there is no real usable power  , only reactive power .

The bifilars and transformers inductance/capacitance were calculated by Meyers ( a radar technician ) . He didnt just wind a random coil and voila it worked  ... He wasnt some NOOB ...

Every object you see from him was calculated by him and made by him , so thats why you get screwed when you try to "copy" without "knowing" .

The best way to solve Meyers is to totally ignore everything about the outside world and everything you considered to be "clues" and these "armchair theorist opinions" like Farrah Day ... A total dependtard with his imaginary friend "Quarktoo" ...

After about a year of reading this crap I have realised something ...Most likely everything you have read on the internet was written by other armchair theorists who themselves read something from an armchair theorists ... So there is a sort of self-feeding vortex of "armchair theorizing" and "depentarding" where people like "Farrah Day" get to "feel smart" .

The internet is full of crap and the crunchy stuff wasnt done by anybody who ever posted about it , especially not something related on how to actually build it , its all philosophy and cause and effect .




« Last Edit: July 30, 2009, 11:30:08 PM by dankie »
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wings

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Re: HHO Cell - Stan Meyer Design.
« Reply #211 on: July 30, 2009, 11:53:24 PM »
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markdansie

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Re: HHO Cell - Stan Meyer Design.
« Reply #212 on: July 31, 2009, 02:01:03 AM »
@Dankie,
your most recent post made good reading.
However you must realise by now that Stan never had a device working (was charged with fraud) and no one else has a device that can readily be scaled up and beat Faraday's Law
I do encourage you..never give up. i do detect a little frustration.
Mark
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dankie

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Re: HHO Cell - Stan Meyer Design.
« Reply #213 on: July 31, 2009, 02:17:17 AM »
Thx Mark ,

I am not frustrated @ all .

I have just moved on to better stuff thats easier to work with than this pulsing VIC with diode method .


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Farrah Day

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Re: HHO Cell - Stan Meyer Design.
« Reply #214 on: July 31, 2009, 02:51:25 AM »
For some unknown reason I seem to be targeted once again... must be my natural charisma and pleasant disposition.

Curious: Markdansie, why now would you suddenly appear out of nowhere to support a dumb Dankie Doodle Dandy post? 

Dankie wrote:

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I can control both frequency and gain seperatly with a single resistor . So If AM or PLL self regulating looping is needed I'm ready , and I think it is . I dont believe square waves or HV will "massage" the water correctly , I think this is a misleading disinfo campaign . Everything resonates with sine waves and this is how radio and radar works , also , getting an effective power transfer with square waves is just not meant to be .

I am now working with the Stephen Meyers method , it is much easier to adjust the impedance matching and electron shift with seperate common components ... No annoying big coils to wind ... some dc offset , the signal and the impedance ringing circuit ... The cell didnt heta up simly because of the electron shift that occurs , there is no real usable power  , only reactive power .

So Dankie, after all your past fanatical support of Stan, you've now decided to switch allegiance and dump poor old Stan for his brother? You who had S. Meyers all figured out and ready to sell the VIC coils to the gullible and unsuspecting... or am I thinking of someone else??

You can control both frequency and gain from a single resistor can you... right... time to take your tablets and return to Wonder Land.  That said, in the 'Outer Limits', they controlled both the vertical and the horizontal...

'Electron shift'... what the hell is that when it's at home???

And once more, 'Fantasy World' rears it's ugly head.

My apologies to those with an IQ above 10 - meet Dankie, someone with an IQ well below 10.

Expect the level of discussion to drop somewhat from here on in. It's take your brains out and leave them at the door, time!

« Last Edit: July 31, 2009, 03:18:49 AM by Farrah Day »
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Farrah Day

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Re: HHO Cell - Stan Meyer Design.
« Reply #215 on: July 31, 2009, 03:17:42 AM »
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I am NOT using current, since the circuit I built only puts 12 volt pulses into the transformer, and no appreciable current comes from the secondary. The voltage is radiant energy (voltage potential). This is a "spark coil" configuration.

SM, I too believe that radiant energy may be involved in aspects of Meyer-type WFCs and high frequency, high voltage pulsing, but I also think that we may be in danger of considering all voltage as radiant energy or a source thereof, which it is not.

Spelling corrected for WO. ;)
« Last Edit: July 31, 2009, 12:03:34 PM by Farrah Day »
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supermuble

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Re: HHO Cell - Stan Meyer Design.
« Reply #216 on: July 31, 2009, 03:51:48 AM »
Here is my circuit. I have never seen anyone do this before. It is very simple. You can use a frequency generator for the signal input, or you can use fixed 60 hz mains for the frequency input. This has an amazing benefit, because no matter what frequency you choose, slow or fast, the primary coil won't be overcharged, and you won't have excessive current draw. Automotive spark modules have "dwell control" meaning they do not overcharge the coil. Avoid modules that use a resistor on the spark coil, that means there is no dwell control in the module.

Electronic spark modules are designed to create radiant sparks, they have an internal capacitor discharge in them, which collapses the primary coil extremely fast, this fast collapse produces the sharp radiant spike on the secondary. It doesn't matter what type of transformer you use, you are going to get some serious voltage. If you use 12 volts, with a 1:1 non step-up transformer you will still get 400 volts on the secondary winding due to radiant energy! Cool. You won't believe how much power a standard transformer can put out.

This circuit only cost a few dollars to build and it's fun to play around with. You can charge batteries Bedini style, or use it for a WFC.


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WorldOrder

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Re: HHO Cell - Stan Meyer Design.
« Reply #217 on: July 31, 2009, 08:57:20 AM »


@Mark

Quote from: markdansie on July 31, 2009, 02:01:03 AM
@Dankie,
your most recent post made good reading.
However you must realise by now that Stan never had a device working (was charged with fraud) and no one else has a device that can readily be scaled up and beat Faraday's Law
I do encourage you..never give up. i do detect a little frustration.
Mark

If you investigate a little deeper, you will find the real truth behind that court case.  If he was a fraud, he wouldn’t have been granted the type of patents that he applied for as they require live demonstrations before they are issued. 


@Farrah

The master of how to influence people and make friends. 

Quote from: Farrah Day on July 31, 2009, 02:51:25 AM
For some unknown reason I seem to be targeted once again... must be my natural charisma and pleasant disposition.

You, sir, are your very own worse enemy.  You even find a way to argue with people who agree with you.  You are just a professional quarreler.  You are the only one I know who can have a one man rock fight and lose.  Is your need to feel more intelligent than everybody in the world insatiable?  This syndrome originates from insecurity, by the way.

For someone who finds no (or very little) credibility in Stan Meyer, you sure spend a lot of time trying to discover his secrets.  Again I will state, there is no way he could have ever been granted the type of patents that he applied for unless he proved his WFC to the patent office, period.   To label Stan’s WFC a hoax is to implicate the U.S. Patent Office as an accomplice.

Then again, there’s Farrah the most intelligent human on the face of the earth:

Quote from: Farrah Day on July 31, 2009, 02:51:25 AM
SM, I too believe that radiant energy may be involved in aspects of Meyer-type WFCs and high frequency, high voltage pulsing, but I also think that we may be in danger of considering all voltage as radiant energy or a sourse thereof, which it is not.

The correct spelling is “source”.  Not “sourse” (unless the queen’s English allows this sort of thing).  Really Farrah.

Quote from: Farrah Day on July 31, 2009, 03:50:40 AM
You don't possibly think that some poor people have a poor attitude because they have bugger all to start with and do not have the money for a decent pair of shoes, while rich people have it all handed down to them on a plate from daddy and want for nothing?

Glad to hear you're taking a sabatical... take your time... no need to hurry back. Also suggest a brain transplant while your away.

Hugs and kisses, Farrah.

The correct spelling is “you’re” instead of “while your away”.

Quote from: Farrah Day on July 31, 2009, 02:51:25 AM

And once more, 'Fantasy World' rears it's ugly head.

My apologies to those with an IQ above 10 - meet Dankie, someone with an IQ well below 10.

Expect the level of discussion to drop somewhat from here on in. It's take your brains out and leave them at the door, time!

The correct spelling here is “its” instead of “rears it’s ugly head”.

For someone who loves to jump on other people for their spelling errors in your quest to tear others down to elevate your insecurities, you are guilty as well.  You are not a legend in your own time.  You are only a legend in your own mind.

@Peter

Then there’s Peter who wasn’t here to spread disinformation…he simply doesn’t know any better.    That’s why he was and still is watching this forum in hopes that one of you will give him the ideas he can pass along to his electronics guy to build.  All of you get to help Peter and he doesn’t have to reciprocate.  The catch is, he must control the direction of this discussion in order for him to profit from all of your insight(s).  He only knows how to take…he gives nothing, but in the case of Peter, this is a good thing.  Just thank god he’s stingy and selfish or he could really lead a bunch of you - in detail - to a costly dead end.

He tried to play the role of the great and powerful Wizard of Oz by stating that it was he that discovered the resistor flaw in Dave Lawton’s circuitry until someone much earlier in this thread busted him by revealing who really figured this out.  And yes, it was in reality Ravi who figured this out.  Not Peter.

He doesn’t share his findings because he’s trying to work a one way deal.  A scheme in which all of you are tricked into helping him solve his problems while he tries to portray himself as confidant and not needing any assistance.  If he had Meyer figured out, he wouldn’t be here.  He really thinks he’s going to sell his junk to the oil companies but they are much smarter than Peter’s electronics guy and they are glad he is headed in the wrong direction with the Sonics that he is using.  Peter is unknowingly one of their greatest allies…he’s just too ignorant to know it.  But then ignorance is bliss ;)

Last but not least, notice this post is unedited.  It’s on purpose and not by accident that I referred to you as a man, Farrah ;)

Regards,
W.O.






 
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Farrah Day

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Re: HHO Cell - Stan Meyer Design.
« Reply #218 on: July 31, 2009, 12:28:41 PM »
Wow, we've got another live one here!

Are you related to 'lower case' Wilby by any chance??  He's an educated idiot too.

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For someone who finds no (or very little) credibility in Stan Meyer, you sure spend a lot of time trying to discover his secrets. 

It's the science that interests me... not Meyer.

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Again I will state, there is no way he could have ever been granted the type of patents that he applied for unless he proved his WFC to the patent office
, period

Just check out some of the things that have been granted patents and you will soon realise this is a bullshit statement.

Do you really think that Meyer's WFC would have been thoroughly scrutinised by anyone that knew what they were doing?  If anything I think that Meyer provides great examples of how you can patent an idea.

When you talk of proof, what in your mind constitutes this proof?
Are you saying that it was enough for Meyer to walk into a patent office, plonk his WFC on a table, plug it in and, voila it produces gas, so it must be working as he states. Patent granted

Or are you talking about real proof whereby it would have needed to be scientifically scrutinised by someone with the relevant credentials, with voltage, current and gas output carefully measured in controlled tests?  Do you really believe this is what happens in the patent office?

The word 'naive', springs to mind... gosh I hopes I spelt that right!
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MasterPlaster

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Re: HHO Cell - Stan Meyer Design.
« Reply #219 on: July 31, 2009, 12:55:20 PM »
LOL :D

Quote from: Farrah Day on July 31, 2009, 12:28:41 PM
The word 'naive', springs to mind... gosh I hopes I spelt that right!
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georgesip

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Re: HHO Cell - Stan Meyer Design.
« Reply #220 on: July 31, 2009, 01:40:26 PM »
thanks to all.
it's time to leave because this kind of bullshit i can have at any corner.
it does better to me to sit and watch spongebob with my little one (6)
 >:( >:(
george
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HeairBear

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Re: HHO Cell - Stan Meyer Design.
« Reply #221 on: July 31, 2009, 04:11:30 PM »
Quote from: Farrah Day on July 31, 2009, 02:51:25 AM
For some unknown reason I seem to be targeted once again... must be my natural charisma and pleasant disposition.

LOL, you have your own phenomena of hateful followers! Just goes to show, you reap what you sew...

C'mon George, it ain't that bad. That's exactly what a forum is, a virtual street corner. Any one can come here and say anything they want. We get all kinds of people here, just take a look around. If you are looking for educational information in these public archives, your gonna have to search a bit harder and weed out the non pertinent.

Where does creativity fit in with science?
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Gauss

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Re: HHO Cell - Stan Meyer Design.
« Reply #222 on: July 31, 2009, 09:14:37 PM »
Well, look at the picture.... :)

Mechanic construction, ultrasonic resonators, water mist instead of WFC, concentric cones, soft spacers etc.

Then have a look at GEET and Leo Umila. I tell you what, Stan Meyer did many things but his WFC was abandoned for a reason(temperature dependency of all ultrasonic resonators etc) and the WFC is just a small part of a water engine and much easier paths exist..
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WorldOrder

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Re: HHO Cell - Stan Meyer Design.
« Reply #223 on: July 31, 2009, 11:15:06 PM »
@Farrah

Quote from: Farrah Day on July 31, 2009, 12:28:41 PM
The word 'naive', springs to mind... gosh I hopes I spelt that right!

No, unfortunately that is incorrect.  The correct spelling is “spelled” instead of “I hopes I spelt that right”. 

Don’t worry.  Just a couple more years of night school and you should be at a 4th grade reading level.  The hard part is going to be when you try to qualify for the loan to pay for all the psychiatric care that you need.  Good luck with that.

Wait a minute!  Don’t tell me!  You already knew everything I just stated, right?     
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Farrah Day

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Re: HHO Cell - Stan Meyer Design.
« Reply #224 on: July 31, 2009, 11:53:57 PM »
lol :D
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No, unfortunately that is incorrect.  The correct spelling is “spelled” instead of “I hopes I spelt that right”. 


Guess you're a very gullible educated idiot then.

Curious Wilby, do you or your alter ego ever actually get involved in the topic of these threads or is your involvement always solely to scrutinise the grammar and the user and then write an essay about it? What a plonker.

At least your alter ego has discovered the 'Caps Shift'.
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