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Solid States Devices => TPU replications => Topic started by: sparks on November 14, 2007, 06:11:50 AM
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I ran accross SM's videos on utube a couple of weeks ago and found this site. Since then my free time has been involved with discovery and contemplation on the principles at work in this machine. I have worked with electrical rotating machinery since leaving college back in the 70's. I have a working knowlege of most electronic devices gained from years of repairing or supplying electric motor drives. But I have never seen a device like this before.
In my electric motor repair shop I became an expert at backengineering electrical equipment design and construction techniques. I recognize all the componenets and their working principles that I have run accross here in the last two weeks but there still remains a big question in my mind as to the scource of power this unit collects. I splashed into all sorts of threads and would like to start this topic for discussion of the theory as to where the energy is coming from. I don't believe that SM knew where it was coming from and it needs to be studied in a scientific manner. Theory Experiment Conclusion
Therefore I start this topic in hopes that it will be used for the advancement of theory on the energy gain of the TPU. Build it and you will understand is bullshit.
Some guy could probably build a model rocket and never understand the first thing about the chemical reactions of the gunpowder fuel. Thanks for reading and look forward to posts regarding others thoughts on the tpu energy gain.
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Hi Sparks
Your ideas advanced on z_p_e' s faux pas thread seem plausible and interesting. Perhaps you could massage those ideas into a testable theory.
Best of luck in your experiments........V
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Thanks Vortex 1,
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Hi,
The energy comes from mother nature.
We disable the effects of the magnetic flux, so the electrons are able to float around freely like the wind...
Then we give it a push in the right direction depending on what side of the hemisphere you are, and off it goes.
It is called the coriolis effect, nature takes it over forming the magnetic cyclone/vortex/hurricane/tornado what ever.
The problem is it always sounds so easy......
We have enough theory's we really need some "hardware" at this point.
M.
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Hello all,
@Marco
your theory is the best and shortest I ever saw about the TPU.
Otto
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Therefore I start this topic in hopes that it will be used for the advancement of theory on the energy gain of the TPU. Build it and you will understand is bullshit.
Dont know, not everyone has a supercomputer for a brain in order to perform thought experiments. Every scientist does experiments. When we run simulations, the mathematical equations inputted can be flawed, but when you make actual prototypes, you will get actual unbiased results.
I would love to see a schematic of how u think the tpu is made.
nevertheless here is some food for thought, as u asked; Here is my opinion. The way the tpu pulses and spins the field of initial electrons in the device allows for regional spatial quantum energy (or aether) to be converted into electrons in the form of radiant energy. The influx of this flow is along the attractor coils. The tpu is acting like a quantum regional sponge when activated. The combination of frequencies is the catalyst in exciting the quantum energy into putting out the "radiant energy".
The reason it is dangerous is because, like nuclear reactors, if the flow is not controlled, it can cause a runaway reaction that can be self sustaining (even when you smash the control circuit), this leads to a big booom if one doesn't know how to terminate the flow if it becomes autonomous. Think of it this way; the energies around us are ripe for conversion, just like mixing Hydrogen with Oxygen causes an environment for a flash explosion. But if you control the flow of the hydrogen with a nozzle, you don't get an explosion, but a useful flame.
Obviously the technical stuff is highly complex; for example the math to explain the transmutation of quantum energy into electrons (radiant energy).
@marco .. the truth is, pretty much all of us are shooting in the dark when we try to explain what the energy source is for the TPU. Zero-point energy is the most scientific. Mother nature pretty much encompasses all of physics, and much much more, since there is still soooo much more to learn. Your answer is too general. I could say the energy comes from the universe, and i would be right.
devilzangel
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funny thing
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coriolis_effect
"A misconception in popular culture is that the Coriolis effect determines the direction in which bathtubs or toilets drain, such that water always drains in one direction in the Northern Hemisphere, and in the other direction in the Southern Hemisphere. This urban legend has been perpetuated by several television programs, including an episode of The Simpsons and The X-Files.[1] In addition, several science broadcasts and publications (including at least one college-level physics textbook) have made this incorrect statement.[2]"
i remember that Simpson episode "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bart_vs._Australia"
Australian and SM connection ......hmm
maybe maybe ;)
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@marco .. the truth is, pretty much all of us are shooting in the dark when we try to explain what the energy source is for the TPU. Zero-point energy is the most scientific. Mother nature pretty much encompasses all of physics, and much much more, since there is still soooo much more to learn. Your answer is too general. I could say the energy comes from the universe, and i would be right.
devilzangel
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My awnser too general?
I did specify it very clear.
You are just too blind too see my friend.
Like many others are.
Pherhaps this is because most people only talk talk talk.
@Zapnic
There are some video's on youtube which show the effect in a drain.
There are people who claim the effect is dependent on the sink structure.
As you watch theze videos you will notice they use the same sink and they move it from one side of the hemisphere to the other etc..
M.
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My awnser too general?
I did specify it very clear.
You are just too blind too see my friend.
Like many others are.
Pherhaps this is because most people only talk talk talk.
Hey Marco, please read the question, it is asking your opinion on what is the "source" of the energy. Saying "mother nature" is the source is like saying the universe is the source. That IS way too general. Mother nature includes ALL forms of energy. The Coriolis effect is just that, an effect; NOT a source energy. You are describing the Dam and not the actual Water.
I will refrain from making any snide smart comments against you because i do respect your work here.
devilzangel
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TIME
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TIME
Ah Yes! Time.
Their is no separation of potential because the potential is the same no matter where you are in your time frame. Now figure out a way to stick a DMM probe in your current time frame and the other in another time frame. Then you will have something to measure! We are riding the wave and we think we are standing still while the rest are moving up and down. The Sun rotates around the Earth? Not much progress.
What potential? The one you are sitting in. IF it varies with time then that would be a good source. I believe it does.
BTW:
I was once the idiot that ran around checking the rotation in my neighbor's toilets. They all flush the same way. Wikipedia is an opinion poll - not a good source of information. Do you think the Brazilian police will be called when I go there next month? I'm many decades older now but I have an urge to run around flushing toilets when I get there.
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yup...
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TIME
Ah Yes! Time.
Their is no separation of potential because the potential is the same no matter where you are in your time frame. Now figure out a way to stick a DMM probe in your current time frame and the other in another time frame. Then you will have something to measure! We are riding the wave and we think we are standing still while the rest are moving up and down. The Sun rotates around the Earth? Not much progress.
What potential? The one you are sitting in. IF it varies with time then that would be a good source. I believe it does.
BTW:
I was once the idiot that ran around checking the rotation in my neighbor's toilets. They all flush the same way. Wikipedia is an opinion poll - not a good source of information. Do you think the Brazilian police will be called when I go there next month? I'm many decades older now but I have an urge to run around flushing toilets when I get there.
I'll join you in the toilet flushing BEP lol!
TIME, indeed!
Seek and ye shall know folks:
http://montalk.net/notes/the-etheric-origins-of-gravity-electricity-and-magnetism
"Electric Scalar Potential (Voltage)
Another distortion in the superpotential is one where the value changes over time:
This creates a electric scalar potential, more commonly known as voltage. A uniform voltage or scalar potential field is one in which the superpotential varies everywhere at the same rate:
We have no direct experience with an undistorted scalar potential field either because it does not generate any forces. If the voltage is everywhere uniform, we cannot detect it.
Electric Field
But if the voltage varies over distance, when there is a gradient in the electric scalar potential, then there arises an electric force field. One way to create an electric field is by creating a voltage gradient, meaning a gradient in the time-varying superpotential.
Another way is to change the vector potential over time, creating a time-varying gradient in the superpotential:
Both methods amount to the same thing, because both involve the scalar superpotential varying over both space and time. "
http://montalk.net/notes/tesla-wireless-technology
"Anyway, Tesla outdid himself when he realized he could use the entire earth as a spherical antenna. This is important because there is another physics equation that relates a ?time-changing? voltage field to the vector potential divergence it produces:
Physicists will recognize this as nothing more than the Lorentz gauge, but such gauges in physics serve only to coverup taboo implications by limiting all conceived physical systems to those that self-cancel any forbidden phenomena. For those familiar with Tom Bearden?s work, this is what he means by asymmetric regauging, whereby instead of canceling out there is a net presence of some exotic phenomena, be it free energy, artificial time dilation, antigravity, etc?
This particular equation shows that even if you have a uniform voltage field, meaning one in which no electric field is present (because electric field is the negative gradient of the voltage), then as long as the voltage oscillates over time, a divergent vector potential will be produced in that space. Tesla?s system was capable of electrically vibrating the entire planet, and when that happens you get a voltage field that is for all practical purposes locally uniform along any given circumference around the globe while varying rapidly over time, and hence it creates an oscillating divergence in the vector potential everywhere. "
"Longitudinal waves, which are identically scalar waves made of divergence in the vector potential, or voltage fields that vary uniformly over space but oscillate over time, will cause corresponding oscillations in the density of mobile electrons. And likewise, compressive oscillations in the density of mobile electrons will create longitudinal waves. Furthermore, such radial oscillations in ion or electron distribution will, when vibrating in a mode of resonance, tap into the time stream and produce free energy that adds to the amplitude of their oscillation."
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Current is something you can measure and use as long as you are not part of it.
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...and what of "cicular polarization of the ether"?
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Hey Marco, please read the question, it is asking your opinion on what is the "source" of the energy. Saying "mother nature" is the source is like saying the universe is the source. That IS way too general. Mother nature includes ALL forms of energy. The Coriolis effect is just that, an effect; NOT a source energy. You are describing the Dam and not the actual Water.
I will refrain from making any snide smart comments against you because i do respect your work here.
devilzangel
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So it's just an effect....
Well this effect is actually caused by the Coriolis Force.
So now we have a Force, and in case you did not know, In physics, force is that which tends to cause a body to accelerate.
And a Force may also cause rotation...
Just what we needed.
your turn buddy.
M.
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So it's just an effect....
Well this effect is actually caused by the Coriolis Force.
So now we have a Force, and in case you did not know, In physics, force is that which tends to cause a body to accelerate.
And a Force may also cause rotation...
Just what we needed.
your turn buddy.
M.
::) have it your way. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coriolis_force .. now now, read carefully. The first few paragraphs are key. (I agree wiki isn't an academic source, but it gets the point across here very well)
ok i will give this a whirl then, lets see where it leads: Are you implying the rotation of the earth is the energy behind the TPU (it isn't the Coriolis force that initiated the rotation in the first place), and that the Coriolis Force is the conduit for this flow? This would mean that if i was in space in non-orbit, the TPU would not work. Or would it? Does the whole galaxy exhibit Coriolis Force? ..
The Coriolis Force is a derivative of other interactions. An "effect" of interaction between other energies. Ultimately, one could say, that the Coriolis Force is simply a gradient of gravity.
devilzangel
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yup...
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http://montalk.net/notes/the-etheric-origins-of-gravity-electricity-and-magnetism
"Electric Scalar Potential (Voltage)
Another distortion in the superpotential is one where the value changes over time...
Thank you, tao. I found this interesting:
When the current is pulsed, it creates a gravitational shockwave in and around the wire. Electrons drag ether along with them, and when electron density changes rapidly, so does the ether density. This is why wires given strong current pulses mysteriously break apart into segments as though pulled apart by internal longitudinal forces, and why rail guns buckle in ways that cannot be explained by mere magnetic forces.
Well, the whole concept is interesting. The author mentions J.C. Maxwell, as well. I am almost done reading it. I will need to go over it a few times to make sure that I understand it correctly.
Thanks again. :)
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yup...
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montalk group huh? Hmmm :P
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have it your way. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coriolis_force .. now now, read carefully. The first few paragraphs are key. (I agree wiki isn't an academic source, but it gets the point across here very well)
ok i will give this a whirl then, lets see where it leads: Are you implying the rotation of the earth is the energy behind the TPU (it isn't the Coriolis force that initiated the rotation in the first place), and that the Coriolis Force is the conduit for this flow? This would mean that if i was in space in non-orbit, the TPU would not work. Or would it? Does the whole galaxy exhibit Coriolis Force? ..
The Coriolis Force is a derivative of other interactions. An "effect" of interaction between other energies. Ultimately, one could say, that the Coriolis Force is simply a gradient of gravity.
devilzangel
Well, I do know that Steven Mark mentioned that it wouldn't work upside down... :D
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Hi,
The energy comes from mother nature.
We disable the effects of the magnetic flux, so the electrons are able to float around freely like the wind...
M.
Marco,
It is just as you said. But there is also more.. If we are able to compress the zpe field with a devices like TPU, it leads to artificial gravity fields. In a gravity field there is a spacetime curvature, that leads to time dilation. Now, if you create this compressed time field temporarily, with input pulses, it happens that the magnetic energy that is created in a coil, is formed in fact in your near future. When you shut off the pulse, the time is returned to "normal" time frame, but the magnetic energy you just created, is still there, in a near future and has nowhere to go. When time goes forward, we reach this time frame, where the magnetic energy is, and we can tap it to our output coil.
This is just one thing of many that we can do with this technology. Like with all things, this coin has also two sides, and the big question is that are we ready to use this technology ?
Esa
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" the cat is out of the bag". the communications between the vectored or dark or straight energy that exists in possibly a cube planet compared to our vortex planet has been established. The internet electron square wave pulses detectable to both civilazations. take those torroid coils and sell them to the copper reclaimers. take the money and spend a day with other life forms. If you are lonely and feel you are foresaken you are not. Neglected, passed over, ugly, foresaken unrecognized? You are not. The garden of eden lies before us where all harmony will become as it was. a balance unseen in millenia. a truce between heaven and hell. An evolved unity of two wills which diverted in the Garden Of Eden and can now return. Tired of the battle, unified as one embraced by each. Whatever we will will be always in harmony never again to cause pride to split the experiment of being.
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@sparks,
let the energy flow!!! quit blocking, baby, quit blocking!!!
lol
sam
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SM said the control circuit only works when placed within the TPU coil. So the time dialation effect extends from the outer edge of the coil, even effecting electrical circuitry.
Is there a cancellation effect with the coil?
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The TPU dynamics work as a gravity force on the aether being stored and accelerated in an electron vortex. The faster the vortex the more the gravity the bigger the magnetic guiding shell self constructing in places it was never designed to be. THE TPU MUST HAVE CONTAINMENT AND fuel supply control. The coils must beinside crystaline structures like granite. Study now the pyramids of Egypt or the Stonehneges of Euorope and set the devices aside. Wait for the civilization of Giant Killer to provide blueprints. GK has been waiting a long time for us to evolve technically to receive this gift. Steven needs a break. Did I say Steven or Stephan. I couldn't hold the power for more than a day never mind the guilt for ten years. Well done my man. Well done.
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^^ you r kidding .. if you want to argue about the theoretics of the energy source of the TPU, it would be wise to leave politics out of it. ;D But since you opened the door, i thought to add my 1bit: There are many reasons to why SM did what he has done and is doing what he is doing. I am very much inclined to opinionate that the incentive wasn't the furtherance of humanity; although initially it might have been. I am against the corporations and governments who have influenced SM into submission.
If the TPU did exhibit gravity (intensifying the gravity field around its mass), it would all of a sudden start pulling object towards it. This is NOT an observed phenomenon when viewing SM vids. SM would have mentioned it even if this aspect was minimal.
I am inclined to believe that the TPU does not operate along electro-gravitic principals.
devilzangel
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^^ you r kidding .. if you want to argue about the theoretics of the energy source of the TPU, it would be wise to leave politics out of it. ;D But since you opened the door, i thought to add my 1bit: There are many reasons to why SM did what he has done and is doing what he is doing. I am very much inclined to opinionate that the incentive wasn't the furtherance of humanity; although initially it might have been. I am against the corporations and governments who have influenced SM into submission.
If the TPU did exhibit gravity (intensifying the gravity field around its mass), it would all of a sudden start pulling object towards it. This is NOT an observed phenomenon when viewing SM vids. SM would have mentioned it even if this aspect was minimal.
I am inclined to believe that the TPU does not operate along electro-gravitic principals.
devilzangel
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Yes, this is not a political forum..
The reason, why TPU is not pulling objects towards it is because there are zones of gravitational time dilation, that are caused by vortex. The net drag effect is zero, both overpressure and underpressure areas of zpe exists. Even, if gravitatational net effect is zero, there is an increased inertial mass.
Esa
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Thoughts on theory
I believe that with correct set up energy can pop between any of the field forces. Comprehension will be the mastery of manipulation. I believe Bearden is closest in identification of time, as a C^2 energy, as is mass. Time is compressable and time flow rate is not fixed.
What this boils down to is the A vector potential, or the linear force yet to be defined and understood. It operates off the sides of a toroidal coil while all the magnetic field is contained within it. It is also termed as torsion and tempic energy by others, the field that can bend radiant light, and sometimes produce waves in the appearance of reality.
The toroidal coil is most mysterious in that with a single wire passing through it, an opened coil on it will shoot to infinity voltages and start to fry itself, yet a short on the winding will completely stop all power from developing. This is the CT in power metering circuits, and you allways keep them shorted until connected to the power meter, or you start to get the arcs we see in the videos of the TPU. These same arcs can shoot out of simple CT's used to meter 3 phase commercial power feeds. With the correct resistance they will operate as current transformers to meter the current in the feed wires.
Now we have a toroidal coil with iron core, and no external magnetic field possible, yet a wire looped through its center forming a wrap will develop a current appearing from the A vector potential, which is said to not truly exist and yet it must exist or the loop could not become energized.
Tesla patents:
I have yet to find a Tesla patent that uses only copper wire at 90 degrees and no iron core? There will be a large difference in the effects to the EM waves if iron is present or if not present.
The TPU is not an AG device, probably because it does not run cold like the Sweet device that did loose weight. The TPU is tapping the hot or outflow side of the A vector potential. It generates electric current that would be called DOR by those in the Psi device field.
This is [Deadly Orgone Energy] and they believe it is evil! LOL! But you must recall the microwave shielding some have resorted to using to avoid headaches. Whenever iron receives sharp square waves there is a microwave danger from ESR and from fast domain reversals. The downside of Beardens MEG unit, possible sunburn as well.
To get the high energy from a collapsing field, you need an iron core. Remove the iron and move to copper copper, all you get is the spike on connection and disconnection, both seem about equal until you configure to the TPU and cause one to be offset. Thus the DC source is from the wiring setup making one spike side taller.
The spike is C velocity E field, and is not current. The secret is how to get the unit to make the current using the super high E field spike, and this was verified over and over in a great many devices.
Now if we are to believe the latest testimony, there is no electronics and no spikes from square waves. Only a reed relay to switch things as the magnetic field rotates around coils in a quad arrangement on a circle. Hard to believe and yet the Hubbard device sounds similar. Just the correct coils and a lot of work to get them started. They would have to be tempic resonant coils and not EM resonant coils to do this.
Circular coils are similar to the Joe Cell layout and we see an energy coupling effect on the Joe Cells, where as long as the plates remain wet, the voltage is present. This indicates the voltage is being set up by the divergent radiant light field and not by any physical matter between the tubes. The geometry is similar, and you can see that the A vector potential or torsion that forms in rings around any one tube has a finite and exact distance necessary to effectively couple. These exact distances are being identified, for the Joe cells they are about .515" but this is a fractal and can be multiplied by 8 or divided by 8 and get coupling also. Otto verified only a certain distance between his CC coils, to find the optimal coupling for this A field energy. He never tried altering this by a factor of 8 but I would guess others will be present.
Tempic field, or A vector potential forms in geometric rings of fixed distance where it will focus, and between these points is spreads to form a wider diamagnetic field. Distances are charted by sensitives to this field, and form a matrix, or grid system. Rods of special length are moved to exact distances and the energy is felt to couple between them strongly. We have yet to start winding coils on these rods and try pulsing them to observe the effects, but the effects of bending them into circles has been identified.
TPU cooling:
Coils that produce cold energy have been found to date with intresting windings over large plastic tubes.
I have no doubts that the TPU can be modified very slightly to mix in some cold energy. Also if one is bold enough to make the feed coil of scalar or partial scalar design, they will still produce the E vector pulses on the 90 degree CC winding with a total current shut down of any possible heating on the input coils. Scalar coils run cold. This limits heat to the output collector but may create other problems? Using totally scalar cancelling input coils would be mastery, as now extremely small energy would be drawn on the input of a system.
Where does the energy come from:
The A vector potential, a linear or Radiant Light path, set into a circle creating a convergent or divergent node at the center. Very simply, a tempic field gradient, altering the time flow rate from center of the circle to outer ring of the circle. The tempic gradient polarity will depend on the voltage gradient. Same model as a Joe Cell. Same model as gravity in the earth. I would guess that the TPU being a hot outflow device creates a slightly heavier gravity field then normal. Has any one ever weighed these in operation? I would expect an increased weight may be present. If the unit ran at room temp then there would be a reversal of the A vector pulsing, headaches, and same weight. Cold, then a lowering of gravity.
There is also the possibility that the mass of the wires is changing as well. This energy flows out of the strong force area of the atoms as they regulate themselves while reacting diamagnetically to oppose the electron shell activity. It is Radiant Light and follows the straight path through space being bent only by gravity and not by EM. It forms the A vector potential. [Best guess]
Concentric rings at resonant radiant light distances, with positive at center and negative on outer ring will form a gravity node at center like the earth or a natural atom, reverse the voltage and the field reverses to a cold anti gravity field [Joe Cell] negative at the center positive on the outer ring. For the TPU to run fully cold it would have to be running in this mode. The toroids inside would receive the negative charge and the outer system would be operating positive to this. [observations from many devices]
Dave L
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Hello all,
@Dave,
a long time ago I measured the weight of my TPU at a low frequency at around 5Hz: the weight was changing, going up and down but I missed to measure the weight at high frequencies.
I also managed to have 1 totally cold control coil and 3 hot coils, or 2 cold coils and 2 hot coils but I forgot how I connected them!!! It was a very long time ago. It depends how you connect this coils. Of course, it looked like the air around this cold coils was also cold. It was last summer and it was really hot. I have to say that I couldnt measure the temperature around my cold coils becasue I dont have the equipment.
I also tried to use only 1 output wire connected to the bulb. Like an Avramenko plug. It was only a little bulb. Almost no current flow from the power supply but a nice light on the little bulb.
Otto
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Getting cold may mean that free particles are tapped into the device and form new matter. That's why thermodynamic energy (kinetic energy of particles) is lost - it is being enclosed into matter. It's strange that devices gets lighter, though. I would expect it to become heavier when it is run cold.
When device gets warm it means that particles are freed from "matter cage" and the matter disintegration is occuring (particles are released from the matter with some initial kinetic energy). In these conditions devices should have lesser weight as reduced gravity field should be one of the conditions for disintegration to be possible.
If this system is valid, one of the ways to run device without overheating or overcooling is to combine both processes in a required proportion. It's best to place the overcooling coil in the center of the grounded metal sphere so that particles that are freed from the overheating coil are tapped back into matter by the overcooling coil, or go to ground. Both coils will be producing usable energy because the reason of overheating is that some freed particles are not going into load circuitry wire, but float around. In the case of overcooling particles are going into matter, but due to existence of their flow some of the flow energy can be taken to do usable work.
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Newbie to this forum, old dog to a few, hard time growing up with my head, please let me share personal theory.
TPU energy source per an insight = the nuclear inertial resonance against its own electron cloud tension from within --a non-quantual continuum mediated by electron shell geometries-- with many nuclei coupling into the resonance via cross-field cancellation ...loosely based on Frank Znidarsic's theory paper, 'The Control of the Natural Forces'.
When the resonant geometry has an overall system symmetry, various effects may emerge, per theory: chilling, then deeper resonance leading to destructive voltage spikes if imbalanced electromagnetically. Fine balance in geometry affords fine control, deep resonance is potentially dangerous, last words could be, "Oops!" Hyperbolic pulse trains afford controlled ramp and de-ramp. Modulo harmonics afford control of the tiger by the tail = inertial field, temporal field, and ample E/M control, by influencing motion of standing waves across the resonant envelop. This is all speculation based on personal theory.
Per theory, the scalar energy field is very much involved with broadcasting the nucleo-sonic attitude as a 'field apparent', and this is more an intuition and not yet up for words on demand. The ultimate energy source is the expanding Universe, with temporal differential providing power amplification, proper... very much a Newtonian violation.
After years of waiting to find a working theory to base experiment upon, I be ready!!!
Simultaneous cancellation of capacitance and magnetic fields producing a toroidal rotation of 'nothing' = poly-phase pulse-driven bifilar Moebius edge coils on a torus surface. Control is very much dependent upon Golden ratio, Fibonacci numbers, and heterodyned harmonics interlocking as charge compression (gravity) in the torus center.
Thanks for listening, wanting to open source the project as prudent (safely). Cavey calls this a super-TPU design.
DonEMitchell
stranger in a strange land
p.s. Gots lots o' pics of families of bifilar Moebius edge coil geometry illustrations.
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otto!...i like the way your mind operates!! there are many answers that are being found by us...i have found that the energy created by the TPU is the same type of energy created by a toroidal PMH....i am x-tra curious about the cold coils you describe...i think that you might want to check out this thread.. http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=9603.msg270280#msg270280 ...i have felt weight anomalies with my devices for a long time but the visible radiated wave is really something to see...my videos do not do justice...do you see any thing strange around a TPU?...david
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Hello,
@ everyone
I'm a newb, short attention span, sensitive, vulnerable, and low in the EQ. Over blessed on the IQ... seriously... frustrating... I can see it but can't explain it... been trying.... here's another attempt to share... remember... I am a stranger, and don't know anybody to offend, and I'm certainly not attempting to compete... but share what things have lodged in my bwain. [What follows is fast and loose.]
The source of the TPU energy: the vacuum, or space, or subspace.
Why? Because the universe is expanding, and there is a trick to open a crack to allow energy into our systems. The principle of the trick is a transition from harmony closed on itself (like a torus), to an open energy system (like a cylindrical electromagnet). In a quantum transition (the stuff that makes electromagnetics), the atom goes from closed harmony, transists through open radiating change, then re-closes (with more or less energy). That's the principle anything to do with quantum events acts on... and EVERYTHING is based in the quantum scale, and the quantum is energized by the power that is expanding the universe.
From one moment to the next, the expanding universe isn't just expanding, but accelerating while doing so.
R.N. Boyd, Ph.D --one of the few out-of-the-box quantum physicists, agrees: A few milliseconds ago, there is a different density in the fabric of space than there is in the right-now. Robert's advise was what lead Podkletnov to try an experiment that bent steel beams with a gravity-beam from a spinning superconductor.
Q: How to tap the energy differential of the varying density over time of the vacuum energy? (The hint is in the sentence.)
A: Be at two places in time with a harmonic envelope that is harmonic across a span of time... and make that span a very very short distance in time, as the vacuum energy is a tremendous reservoir of energy, and you don't want to tear a whole in the universe and vaporize the neighborhood (kidding sort of). A successful tapping into the vacuum energy tends to sometimes run-away. One in Europe (private group) had to be dynamited to shut down. The Enola Gay pilot slammed his hyperresonator with a stick when it arced over the knife switch to keep running, and both took out the local neighborhood power which was draining into the dimple in time the devices made.
Q: How to dimple time?
A: Compress charge.
Q: How to compress charge?
A: Create a geometry that forms an antenna of 3D shape that creates the environment for the higher harmonics to fall into a conjugate attraction. Requirement: the harmonics need to be a part of a harmonic envelope... when so, the harmony is one entity, any part effected affects the whole of the harmonic wave group.
Q: What is this geometry?
A: One may be a Rodin Coil, which is an entangled helix.
A2: Resonant half-wave rectifier bridge pulses through a loop against a superconductor torus ceramic that has a bucking permanent magnet against it (Superconductive Antigravity Engine, Hidefumi Kobota) This is the same effect at the quantum level, which acts as a macro-quantum scale in a superconductor.
Q: How to create the effect without superconductors?
A: Resonate with the matter-wave the way superconductors do.
Say what? OK... this does get involved, and matter-wave resonance on an amateur workbench could get scary. Be careful!
Examples of danger:
1) Brian Prater was hospitalized for a month when he touched a hissing, silvery bead that came out of his hyperresonator when he shut it down.
2) A friend told me of his friend in Sedona, AZ that thought a vacuum chamber would make his experiments safe... wrong. The hyperresonance engulfed the room, as he watched. It backed him into a corner and messed him up. He was in the hospital for three days from the field effect.
What I'm discussing is the super-TPU that everyone wishes to understand. The tests I've seen -all of them- are more like cargo cult than science, meaning, we don't know what we're doing yet. But no doubt many of us have many clues, me included, and wouldn't it be nice if we could all meet at a brain-trust-retreat for a week?
This is an attempt to help... based on patterns in the alphabet-soup of endless theories... the consistencies are sleuthed out.
The Otto device is a many-to-one transformer, and the lead in the solder was the active device. The Otto device needs more turns, but of a proper geometry... flash over-voltage surges are a sign that the lead atoms polarized by their positive nuclear fields (oblation polarization).
A morph of the late Otto's insight, and the entangled helix of the Rodin Coil will begin to get closer, without superconductors. There are many degrees of torus knots. All indicators point to one with a neighboring numbers from the Fibonacci sequence. There are many to test. I'm leaning to an 8:5 torus knot, as 8/5 = 1.60, while the golden mean is 1.61803... This leads to a small phase-wave that should be correctable with the proper application of pole precession (magnetic flux density wave in the torus). If the phase wave isn't nullified, the standing resonance needed will jump between loops in a dissipative harmony-breaker.
Rodin, Otto, or any other device I am privy to, requires yet that one needs to know how to manipulate the frequency to create the harmonic environment -1st effect, and then -2nd effect: twist a knot in the resonance... that knot evolves through time slower than do we (except for that part of our neurology that uses a dimple in time so DNA can resonant with some part of eternity).
Twisting a knot required a deliberate and precise application of non-sinusoidal prime drivers. This is a combination of toroidal rotation only possible with an entangled helix on a toroid (Otto's was never entangled) and magnetic density precession (pole wobble) above and below the torus. The missing phase of the Rodin coil may well provide the rudder for the precession. It is the ratio of the pole-precession and the toroidal spin that creates the magic. Now the scene is set to begin to accumulate energy in the torsion of the wave-group. That trick is borrowed from sonar technology, and is also the trick that enables the resonant envelope to be ramped-up or ramped-down... rather important.
Enough details... getting too long. People... I have a deep yearn to pursue this research, and Mom didn't have any dumb kids. Like a bobcat (my spirit guide) I can only socialize (like this) for a short spell and need to get back into the woods.
By now you either hate me or love me, or weren't interested enough to get this far.
The perfect team for the laboratory in the deep woods:
* An antenna specialist, versed on fractal antenna and wave harmonics.
* An open minded quantum physicists (I know, they don't really come in that flavor).
* A power engineer, able to work with the new blazing fast gallium nitride power transistors (12 volts rise-time per nanosecond, up to 55 amps per device, and parallel with inherent load sharing without disturbing speed, and $5 bucks each as bare silicon dies (tiny), two to seven hundred dollars each if mounted in military packages.
* An EE versed in programmable arrays, micro-controllers for loading the arrays as controlled by a user interface it communicates with, and circuit board fabrication.
* A rich benefactor (kidding, sort of), but a "Scalar Technologist Gild" is a thought --membership funds shared resource.
The super-TPU consists of 3-phase coils of a carefully dimensioned entangled helix on a torus, all three on the same torus, and a super-fast, low-voltage, high current (10 volts, 500 amp surge for a split second) phase-angle and duty-cycle adjustable variable frequency pulse supply.
Live long and prosper,
AZDon
"Refrigerators R Us" (because the super-TPU will turn cold while it is making electricity at the cost of the resonance.)
Links? I got links, notes, and lots of graphics with POVRay. Golden mean, Fibonacci, platonic solids, natural hints, etc. Please just target your question, and hope I haven't ran for the woods.
Oh! I forgot... to resonate with the matter-lattice electronically requires a frequency that is dependent upon the scale of the resonator, and for a typical desktop size device with a one-meter wave-length at harmony, would be about a megaHertz, give or take, and also dependent on the atomic weight of the resonant core material. [Frank Znidarsic, 'Control of the Natural Forces']
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@DonEMitchell
"The super-TPU consists of 3-phase coils of a carefully dimensioned entangled helix on a torus, all three on the same torus, and a super-fast, low-voltage, high current (10 volts, 500 amp surge for a split second) phase-angle and duty-cycle adjustable variable frequency pulse supply"
That's what I an talking about from quite of a while.
TPU has 3 coils spaced at 120 deg on the common torus made from conductors.Coils should partially cover their neighbour coil to get smooth rotation of B field. Those coils should be driven like 3 phase motor- impulses are spaced 120 deg so as a result you have rotating B field alongside torus.
"Squeezing electrons out of the conductor like you squeez water out of the garden hose".
This is also Tesla related, and even enchanced by small modification :-)
regards,
Pix
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Hey Pix
So lets say we just had 1 core(of wire) and 1 coil wrapped on 1/3 of the coil, for basic purposes, if we pulsed the 1/3 coil, it squeezes the core charge in 1 direction or does it ooze from both ends?
Or can we have 60 smaller coil divisions, with the first, forth, seventh.... in series, second, fifth, eighth.... in series etc. and each gang around the ring has 20 coils, 3 gangs. But I suppose that the freq would have to be higher than just 3 coils. 20 times higher.
hmmm If a pulse causes a directional flow in the core wire, then why not 1 coil and pulse it? But if its a bidirectional squeeze, we would never get anything from the core unless it was tapped inside, in the middle of the so called control coil, where the squeeze outward has a center point.
So it would make sense if 3 coils, slightly over wrapped, would continuously move this squeezed area around the core coil, and how fast you pulse them in series will determine how much the core can deliver in current.
Seems a lot easier than combining freq harmonics into the pixture. ;]
Mags
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Don
Let me know if you need a good cook?
Sounds like a fun time if you don't send the kitchen into a worm hole!
Chet
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@DonEMitchell
Yes, dear @otto maybe needed more coiling in his ECD. But, with more coiling he would maybe never have had his effect. Ain't it a chance.
Your post got me actually thinking back a few weeks ago I was pondering the Rodin coil, after seeing a magnet ball turn inside one on YT, realizing that the Rodin coil proves the field can turn on an air core. So why not make a three layer air core toroid.
1st layer straight wound one layer of one or in segments all around.
2nd layer is the Rodin winding.
3rd layer same as 1st.
The center rodin coil would be turning the field between the inner and outer pick up layers. Should be very interesting and very easy to make. Yep.
wattsup
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Steven switched on two (2) separate frequency channels on his device then stated the unit was on and functioning.
(http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/tPuhI03ZMR8/mqdefault.jpg) He spoke of a gyroscopic affect and the frequencies clashing when they came together.
Looking at the device, I believe the two coils in the middle are pickup coils, like microphones for the purpose of creating a resonant loop. The outside coil is the driver coil, like a speaker. Place a mic too close to a speaker and what do you get? A resonating frequency!
The first thing to notice is that there are 2 pickup coils.
In this orientation they would be ready to receive the compressed magnetic field fluctuations generated by and traveling through the middle of the large outside coil. This outside field would have to look something like this.(http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/icdPiG52vv0/mqdefault.jpg)
Each drive wire of the large coil would generate a magnetic B Field that could induce current in a pickup wire running alongside it.
Each pickup coil could pickup and send it's own tuned resonant frequency that would propagate down the wires of the large coil creating specific moments of waveform convergence. These convergence moments would manifest themselves as rapid and intense magnetic field fluctuations along the drive wire to induce current in the pickup wire.
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I ran accross SM's videos on utube a couple of weeks ago and found this site...
I have also watched the videos, very convincing, very alluring, with the possibility of self sufficiency and all that and this
in a lightweight compact package which could energize a flashlight up to an industrial air conditioner if you stack the
units... Who wouldn,t want this?
After reading through some of the threads, skimming through most, a lot of work has been put fourth to bring this product
to fruition and that is a worthwhile effort and all of us are made the better for it, so this is me with my hat off saying
thank you all...
"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work."
But if the foundation is faulty then the whole structure is unstable, This video put it into perspective for me. The discharge
from the unit this guy has and the discharge from the tpu videos are exactly the same...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hwLHdBTQ7s
You have to watch the video a little way through to see him short the leads and pull them apart to see the discharge...
I,m sorry to say it but I think this is the source of power of the tpu...
That being said, there is another thread where connecting batteries in an unusual way through a motor is yielding
interesting rersults
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Well, you lot are so far from the truth its time you got a little help ! Some variable transformers hold a charge it all depends on the iron and the perfected length of wire. A resonance is set up and sustained in the core of the primary transformer and then its just a matter of harmonics . You increase the resistance without increasing the length of the coil in the secondary transformer where back emf serves as a field pump compressing the wave dynamic.
The more you take out the more it will pump up until it overheats and brakes down and stops..... SIMPLE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Regards S9
Dear S9
Thank you for the input, we welcome all the help we can get. Can you expand on your method with a bit more detail? Increasing resistance usually adds more loss to a circuit, how does it become a benefit. And what kind of harmonics are we to look for in the back emf.
What depends on the "iron"and "perfected length of wire". I can move to a few guesses of what you mean, but we are all weary of guessing games.
As you have made a very brief statement of a possible hypothesis, a simple diagram e.g circuit sketch with some numbers would be a big help moving the lab experiment "proof of concept" to the level of a "theory".
Outside of that, a clearer explanation with examples would be a big help.
Thanks in advance
Regards, Vortex1
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Having trouble with the difference between RMS and Peak voltages, are we?
A rose by any other name is still a rose, and an ATOMMIX by any other name is .... well, do the math.
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SIMPLICITY IS THE METAPHOR OF A LOGIC ONLY A 5 YEAR OLD CAN GRASP ............................ To all that are new to this field keep close to the water that flows and to all that have yet to build one watt above unity throw away you OS your electronics dictionary post back your tex books to them that had written them and start again.
Peak voltage ? There is no limit but one would be wise not to kill them selfs to soon ! Stay below 600 v and head for a safer 240v .
I am at 10kilos at one metre off the ground at 100 watts over unity no connection to the grid .
Before me I have 93 computers land enough for a small city to be built and a team bold enough to fly beyond the solar system and back in but one day.
I had emptied the pool with a long pipe where the pipe is at the same level as the water ! It is not any different than that and as the universe is made of but one electron my pool is full along the line of infinity.
My creativity is the same as a 5-year old who never stops painting the grass with the colours of the rainbow ! Now my body runs at unity and my cellular matrix is reforming back to its original perfection.
Knowledge is but colours made into waves that dance along the infinite and to say I am the ATOMMIX is to say I am the master yet like any mix of atoms you need either to add or take away energy to form a bond. I am the fluid of the free never to be ruled or owned yet one has to ponder a little to see over the horizon.
I seek only to race my craft with any other out there but as there is nothing but me I tend to give away the truth in such simple terms hoping that on the day of the race I stand not alone but among the many .
Now place your body as the collector and the space you live in as the collector yet avoid the tax man at all cost and run into the village where only a kingdom of masters live.
This world and its humanity is in a very dangerous position and one more wrong move it will be game over and all life will die ! These technologies are tools and nothing more and if you conceive them as complex systems and attempt to place them in a book that was written only to hide them you risk to lose them altogether.
There is much work to do but with only one day at a time to do this work and the unstoppable reality of either a Trump or a Hillary I truly fear of yet another stupidity to undo all our good work.
Get the transformers NOW isolate unity before you go for the load and keep secret of how you hold your ground as you stand away from the grid or a battery . That is only my opinion !
There are many that go by the name of the ATOMMIX if I were you it would be best to stick to one atom at a time and never again disrupt the honour and honesty of the voice of freedom for it will reflect only a mirror image of your true intent.
How many electrons are there in one amp? let me help you it is equal to the maximum gain of voltage that the amp can achieve at 40c over any distance at any pulse or wave function. That's a lot of voltage so what peak were you thinking off ???
1 000 000 v attracts x-ray radiation among other interstellar fields and all forms of exotic energy !
This will help you a little ! Now sir please tel me the gain of resistance of 1 metre of copper insulated 1 mm wire with a 2.2-degree curve placed upon it ? And why is such a question important ?
I will inform you that such a wire is but the ear to the universe and all interstellar communications are observed but it ! Including the one that has made a home of our moon . To him that has an ear let him hear what the spirit is saying ! I did ......................................
lol xxx
Regards
S9
Hey S9
Thanks for posting.
If we wanted to build the transformer, what would be the way to go about it?
Mags
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A rose by any other name is still a rose, and an ATOMMIX by any other name is .... well, do the math.
Or Dr. Who. Still smells the same. Only now has regressed to a five year old.
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HHMM
I just received this from an old friend...
Its a copy of the rules for Stefan's House [where you are presently a guest]
You agree, through your use of this forum, that you will not post any material which is false, defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, adult material, or otherwise in violation of any International or United States Federal law. You also agree not to post any copyrighted material unless you own the copyright or you have written consent from the owner of the copyrighted material. Spam, flooding, advertisements, chain letters, pyramid schemes, and solicitations are also forbidden on this forum.
respectfully
Chet K
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Does anyone remember innovationstation?
I wonder if he's learned to spell and write?
Anyway, sorry for the interruption.
S9, what patent is this that you refer to?
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Well I can see that it would be a difficult build
Mags
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Oh. Sorry. Those pics are from the net. Im looking into variacs to buy. May not have till next week or the week after.
So are they all decent for this project as long as they are 240v 2A?
Was looking for Malpin but none on ebay and looked at the Malpin site and put a search for variacs but nothing came up for that on the site.
Mags
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Will be back in a couple hours to respond to the things you posted. Again, sorry, I should have specified that those pics were from the net.yahoo image search.
I was very very frustrated last night when I wanted to post them. OU.com was only letting me into the home page a couple times and when I finally got to making the post, OU was out again. Spent a couple hours trying. Sometimes it makes me paranoid. 8)
Mags
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I use a voice to tex system and it takes time for it to start to function without error ! Sorry if your heads have been programmed by the self-oppugnation of the extremals in the delirium one has only to see that a computer needs to compute in order to function. As yet they still need me to do that for them !
Now I see the transformer and yes not easy to make ! So plug it in and let me see what cap bank you have ready ? There are some simple tests to do that will completely surprise you.
I want you to use a step-down transformer 12v 2 AMP if your variac is a 2 AMP ! And try and get some thin 0.10 nickel wire as a load ...... Its best to set it out in a straight line for now and you will use it as a variable load.
If you, for now, have a 1F 12V DC capacitor that's ok to start to test your variac as the collector !
You will need a current metre to check input and put and that is the very basic set up .
You're going to go for a 2WATT INPUT FOR A 40 WATT OUTPUT with this setup and don't question the results as you really just need to move into an off grid situation.
Place your variac on a table 1 metre off the ground as there are some things you will need to study as I want you to drop the output wires 2 inch off the ground and don't let them short out !
You will need to use 5 different types of out-out wires and just do the same thing and test each set for volts only ! The gain in the out will show up slower with thicker wire than the thin wire so let me know what you will be using ?
Understanding ground connections is an important and different thickness in the wire does something not listed anywhere and you just need to take not of it for now !
Don't hurry and don't blow the transformer ! You have to have a 240v AC 10 amp grid supply or you are going to do things in a different way .
Is this ok with you ? I am sure you can do it but don't start messing around with all kinds of loads ! What you're looking for can simply be lost if the variac begins to heat up and is why its best to start with a new one .....
Parts
1 NICKEL WIRE
2 1 F 12V DC CAP
3 5 DIFFERENT OUTPUT WIRES 1 METRE IN LENGTH
4 1 NEW VARIAC 1 AMP OR A 2 AMP
When will you have all the parts ? and please provide a time plan for your tests so we can all know when to expect the results .
Rember do not use your variac for any other purpose not even once ............. It has to be brand new !!!!!
Regards
S9
Hey S9
From your last post, the paranoia thing is just the fact and timing of when I go to post on some subjects and hit post, the page sometimes goes to Page Not Available. Then I try to go to the home page and it is Not Available either. Then I try the site on my cell phone, not logged in, and it is fine. It has happened quite often when I post on subjects that seem possibly touchy. So I just feel it is odd considering... Not that the site is a root cause. Weird.
I do have a 1F 12v cap. Actually they are rated to 20v max, but are used to stabilize car audio amp power inputs. You had mentioned that they should not be leaky as in somewhat self draining. But these tend to be such, and more so the higher the voltage gets to the rated value.
Im not sure what I should do with the cap here, as I believe you stated it was to be of the same rating as the transformer earlier. Are we going to input 12v into the variac from the 12v transformer? These 1F 12v caps are dc. No diodes? Can you provide a simple diagram of what we want to do, or do you want me to wait till I have all the parts? Kinda anxious to get my mind on what I will be doing. But I will wait if need be. ??? ;D
You stated that I should not use the variac for anything else before hand. Would testing the variac at the manufacturer before boxing affect the do not use clause you have given? Just thinking. Or like you said, we just dont want to get the thing heated up in any way? Just wondering what problem would occur to the variac if it were used in a normal testing before hand. Like is it that we dont want to cause any possible heat expansion of the windings, or cause harm to the core. just interested in details on such as we have a little time to talk of these things before I get the parts together.
On the subject of the 2 wires that reach to the distance of 2in off of the floor... Im wondering what you were saying about grounding. Like does it matter if the floor is concrete, tile or actual dirt ground like outside? Is this 2in from the floor something that is in relation to the ground pin on the plug input of the variac?
I dunno for sure and my mind is just trying to figure out your descriptions. Some diagram would put me at ease. ;D
Checking out RS Components site, in the US they are quite expensive. In the range of around $300 to around $2000.
http://www.alliedelec.com/search/results.aspx?term=variable+transformer+240v&show=60
Found 1 on ebay for $100 rated at 240v 8A
http://www.ebay.com/itm/RS-VARIABLE-TRANSFORMER-AAR-3188-/262080963447?hash=item3d053e2377:g:RLcAAOSwFnFWE5hu (http://www.ebay.com/itm/RS-VARIABLE-TRANSFORMER-AAR-3188-/262080963447?hash=item3d053e2377:g:RLcAAOSwFnFWE5hu)
Ok, gotta get some sleep. Thanks
Mags
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HHMM
I just received this from an old friend...
Its a copy of the rules for Stefan's House [where you are presently a guest]
You agree, through your use of this forum, that you will not post any material which is false, defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, adult material, or otherwise in violation of any International or United States Federal law. You also agree not to post any copyrighted material unless you own the copyright or you have written consent from the owner of the copyrighted material. Spam, flooding, advertisements, chain letters, pyramid schemes, and solicitations are also forbidden on this forum.
respectfully
Chet K
Nut cases do not normally follow rules Chet,and it seems we have another one here. ;D
Brad
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MAG if you're in the USA its going to be a bit of a problem as you need the 240v AC supply to set up the 2amp variac ! 8 amp can be quite difficult as you will need to magnetise the core so you get the 330v AC reading.
To isolate the TPU effect you have to set up the variac in such a way as it will hold the charge when switched off ! Or you will need a good cap bank and an inverter to stand a chance to get off the grid.
Regards
S9
Hey S9
Just wondering. Why does it have to be 240v in and looking for 330v out? Are these numbers critical to get the job done, or is it that you havnt tried with 120v with a 120v variac? We do have 240v here in the US. So is it that yours is 50hz and ours is 60hz? If so, is there not a work around to configure it to work here, or are we at a complete loss in the US for such a device?
In your depiction, is that just a setup to tune the variac and then move to the next step? If you dont mind me asking, what is the deal with the 1 meter high table with the wires hanging down? I would like to understand these things if anything.
thanks
Mags
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Hey S9
Watched the vid. Was very interesting. The last chunk of graphics, I was waiting for the guy to continue talking but it just went on to the end.
When you say you want a description of the transformer, is that so you can determine the size and length of the windings? I get now why the 120v may be harder because the 240v will have finer wire in comparison.
When you are talking about 330v, is that rms, not peak?
One more question for now. Do you understand what Steven M did to achieve his tpu?
Mags
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I fear no one.
No,a real nut case would think he can create energy-such as you. Most of us know energy can be transformed--not created.
But i have produced many watts of free energy.
Yes,i have much to learn,but i know a nut case when i see one--that be you S9.
There is no reality here with you S9--you are all talk,and no action.
You have(nor ever will)nothing to offer or show any here--you only waste there time.
I can assure you,it is not me that is delusional.
I have no respect for people such as your self--many large postings of ramblings,but never anything to show.
You have nothing to teach--that is fact.
Well some one needs help,that is for sure.
I can do that already,so why would you think you have anything above that to offer--and you do not.
What about a place where you can defend your countless lies ?.
I'll take that challenge,but first you need to explain ZERO POINT,as i have a feeling that you have no idea as to what zero point energy is.
Please show us all some of your talent--where is it?
Indeed.
Many have called my talent crap--but no one has ever had the balls to take me on.
Name your challenge S9--lets sort out the gentleman from the crap ;D
I have this feeling-like many before you,that you will not take up any challenge--you are nothing but words on a screen.
Brad
"No,a real nut case would think he can create energy-such as you. Most of us know energy can be transformed--not created."
Well from what I get from this so far is the energy would be driven by the earth, similar to solar is driven by the sun.
Why the nut case attacks? Until he is proven wrong with what he proposes, why the blind attacks?
Is this the way we should treat everyone that proposes a new way to do something? What would someone have to lose if they happen to be in a 240v 50hz system zone, and possibly already has a variac, to try out the things he suggests?
I am almost always a bit skeptical, but I also look into new ideas presented.
If OU.com were a service company that was set up to do tests on ideas presented, no matter the persons communications skills or how the idea was presented, is this how we should represent our selves to ANYONE that comes forth? ??? If so, then here, based on what?
Mags
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Hey S9
So if I get a 240v variac and rig it up to a 2 phase 240v circuit here in the US, would that not work for the initial testing? Because if Im getting things right, after that we wont be using 240v in, correct?
Mags
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As you can see Mags,my !attacks!(often mistaken for truths) are not blind.
S9 has challenged me,and so we shall see if he makes good on my acceptance to his challenge.
Have you not read his post's ?
He is just another that reverts to profanities when some one questions him,or ask's him to provide evidence to back up his claim of running of his own produced !free energy!,and being free from the grid.
Seems he races space ship's as well ;D
Quote: I am at 10kilos at one metre off the ground at 100 watts over unity no connection to the grid .
Quote: Before me I have 93 computers land enough for a small city to be built and a team bold enough to fly beyond the solar system and back in but one day.
Quote: I seek only to race my craft with any other out there but as there is nothing but me
Quote: How many electrons are there in one amp?
So here is a challenge for you Mag's.
Ask S9 to provide proof of his free energy device that allows him to power his home off grid.
This is only going to be another costly UFOpolotics saga.
Did you or TK get an answer regarding RMS and P/P voltage yet?.
Both you and your work Mag's,are far better than this.
Yes,i know that what you choose to do with your time is up to you,and you alone. But it is hard to sit back and watch people going from a state of moving forward,to the land of lala,when some one that has had to much happy weed,starts making claims that are never backed up with evidence,but expect people to race out,and buy equipment that will never show the results claimed by the !happy weed! smoker.
Brad
This was S9s first post in this thread.... Page 3
"Well, you lot are so far from the truth its time you got a little help ! Some variable transformers hold a charge it all depends on the iron and the perfected length of wire. A resonance is set up and sustained in the core of the primary transformer and then its just a matter of harmonics . You increase the resistance without increasing the length of the coil in the secondary transformer where back emf serves as a field pump compressing the wave dynamic.
The more you take out the more it will pump up until it overheats and brakes down and stops..... SIMPLE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Regards S9"
Then it was tk that assumes WITHOUT proof that all the guy may be seeing is peak value and that he is ATOMMIX.
Then Dog One
Chet only posted concern of the content of his posting AFTER nay sayers maybe got him ticked off, as many here get ticked of for such ;)
Then Poynt suggests he may be IST.
Then you started it with the nut case comment. Am I wrong? Does he not have a RIGHT to be offended just as much as you or I? Is this what you have become? One of THEM? ???
So now we will have 50 pages of who is on the high horse. ::) To be blunt, Im sick of that shit.
Mags
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S9 has agreed to help me try a 120v variac. He said he had not tried one of them and it may workout.
Here is a list of a few i am chosing, going with the lowest amp spec possible...
120v 2.5A new. $109.00 Will post a pic of each in order. The ebay page will show more.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/120-V-Staco-Energy-Type-251-Variable-Transformer-New-Old-Stock-Auto-Transformer-/201654659752?hash=item2ef38deaa8:g:XHUAAOSwZVlXwL~A
120v 3A new $138.88
http://www.ebay.com/itm/120-V-Staco-Energy-Type-291-Variable-Transformer-3A-New-/331905992263?hash=item4d47238647:g:gnoAAOSw~ZdVgEdg
120v 1.5A used vintage $35.99
http://www.ebay.com/itm/One-Vintage-Powerstat-Variable-Auto-Transformer-Variac-/131904760408?hash=item1eb622ea58:g:lqwAAOSwgZ1Xq0D~
115v 5A used vintage $20.00
http://www.ebay.com/itm/General-Radio-Variac-Variable-Transformer-Type-200-C-115V-5A-/262589999556?hash=item3d239569c4:g:gCQAAOSwdzVXu2uK
I chose to post a couple old ones as they may have rusted cores as suggested.
May get a new one and the General Radio old one as it is only $20. Ill need to get that one soon as it only has less than 2 days to go.
Mags
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The 3rd one used has some dings in the windings and the 4th has taps on 2 sides of the windings. But Ill go with either if it is not a big deal
The pics are large so S9 can see good detail to make a choice for me. The money on these is not a big deal for me on this project
Mags
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This was S9s first post in this thread.... Page 3
"Well, you lot are so far from the truth its time you got a little help ! Some variable transformers hold a charge it all depends on the iron and the perfected length of wire. A resonance is set up and sustained in the core of the primary transformer and then its just a matter of harmonics . You increase the resistance without increasing the length of the coil in the secondary transformer where back emf serves as a field pump compressing the wave dynamic.
The more you take out the more it will pump up until it overheats and brakes down and stops..... SIMPLE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Regards S9"
Then it was tk that assumes WITHOUT proof that all the guy may be seeing is peak value and that he is ATOMMIX.
Then Dog One
Chet only posted concern of the content of his posting AFTER nay sayers maybe got him ticked off, as many here get ticked of for such ;)
Then Poynt suggests he may be IST.
Then you started it with the nut case comment. Am I wrong? Does he not have a RIGHT to be offended just as much as you or I? Is this what you have become? One of THEM? ???
So now we will have 50 pages of who is on the high horse. ::) To be blunt, Im sick of that shit.
Mags
As you wish Mag's.
I have removed what i can.
Enjoy.
Brad
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I apologize S9 and Mags.
I'm happy to learn if that is still possible.
Audacity Download Link (https://www.fosshub.com/Audacity.html)
Here's your Factor 9 Grid for reference at post 92 if that means anything.
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Rember do not use your variac for any other purpose not even once ............. It has to be brand new !!!!!
Regards
S9
Brand new, or just "new to you" ? What if it was tested in the factory?
Oh... look. You didn't get the effects claimed. What could be wrong? +YOU DIDN'T USE A BRAND NEW VARIAC THAT HAS NEVER BEEN USED FOR ANY OTHER PURPOSE NOT EVEN ONCE.+ :'(
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Music and power tools engineering: True scale
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=meta+c&IN=dinnan&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=meta+c&IN=dinnan&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search)
brandnew : without first use memory effect
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I apologize S9 and Mags.
I'm happy to learn if that is still possible.
Audacity Download Link (https://www.fosshub.com/Audacity.html)
Here's your Factor 9 Grid for reference at post 92 if that means anything.
Hi Dog One,
Thanx for the Audacity Link.
Magluvin,
Thanx for hanging in there with S9. I echo all your thoughts and sentiments about this project and I will be with you guys all the way.
Like you , I am always willing to try new ideas --and if it doesn't work , well, we tried. If this works then it will be a game changer for all.
For a Variac -I have a "General Radio USA"--W5MT3 Autotransformer --0 to 140 volts @ 5A. I'll look for a 220 variac if need be.
S9,
I want to thank you for sharing this information and hanging in there too, despite all the ridicule. I will be looking forward to working with you further, on this project.
Paul
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I apologize S9 and Mags.
I'm happy to learn if that is still possible.
Audacity Download Link (https://www.fosshub.com/Audacity.html)
Here's your Factor 9 Grid for reference at post 92 if that means anything.
Number 9 is the 9th house in the astrological solar system it's said to represent the 'god of light', also note all the numbers in your download add up to 9 Sagittarius and are said to be very powerful re Marko Rodine.
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Physics says the energy in the head of a pin could supply power for 1000 homes. Where the energy comes from is the wrong question. How to convert energy to useable electrical power is the proper question. Look at the Hans Coiler device and study it).
I don't have the answer. but start with a resonant ckt (a coil and a capacitor both of those are in the unit). It would run a very long time if the losses in the wire were very small
Higher frequencies also help. Also remember a coil has capacitance. Now add a permeate magnetic field condition with and ac frequency (not neodymium). Try to match the frequencies see what happens.
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poor typing and spelling last post
correct Now add a permante magnet conditioned with an ac frequency (not neodymium maybe a ferrite)
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As you wish Mag's.
I have removed what i can.
Enjoy.
Brad
Sorry if I was a bit harsh. I just would like you to be the person we have all come to like and admire.
You, me and others have been treated in ways we would rather not, and many times undeserved, to say in the ways it was done, whether we were wrong or right.
Like the cap to cap deal. I dont lay blame on those here that expressed strongly that the 50% loss was due to resistance. It is the sources of that incorrect info that they had followed that I blame. They are the ones that SHOULD know better but put out false info as fact. Of course these guys thought I was just nuts, under educated and silly to claim for quite some time that the loss was not due to heat via resistance. But over time I had prevailed.
So for me that has set a solid example for myself going on. S9 has made some claims that may seem way nutty or just plain fantasy. But his assertions dont seem to be just simply made up. They seem to be just beyond simple understandings. So therefore he has come under some attack.
I would like for S9 to not dump bucket loads of what we may learn here from this, as it tends to become too much beyond the basics and can sound very much fantastical to a point that many may jump on the attack boat or just blow it all off as nonsense.
To me, so far, I feel we can learn some seriously useful scientific information here. And Im all in on that. I think we here have very possibly scared off many that have had deep ideas such as S9 presents, and I would like to see how this one goes before that happens. So far I dont see that the cost of this is going to break anyones bank. And if it comes to fruition, even those that thought the cost was too much to step up, they will be finding the ability to afford what is minuscule to what it is worth.
In the end, if anything, I will now own a variac, where at times, I wish I had one anyway. ;)
Mags
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Hey S9
Was wondering. Is the core in the variac solid? Most all transformers for typical AC power are laminated. Is it a wound laminate in the variac?
Also, in your last post, the resonance you was talking about, is it 360hz as you said earlier? Seems like a really low freq to be had at atomic levels.
Mags
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@S9
First it's always interesting reading your stuff regardless of the username. It's like you are on crack, downers, uppers and an
overdose of brain food all in one. Not a bad thing, just different.
About @tinman, his heart is wide open, but it has been stepped on many times here but his intent is genuine which is a major
factor for all OU experimenters. He is just a suspicious of newcomers with magic messages as all of us. We've been around the
block a few times so expect some countering.
OK, down to business. In all your talks, you have not mentioned one word about amperage. It is standard that my variac or any
other will show higher voltage then what is fed in because the input is not at the beginning of the winding but about 15% in. The
point is more voltage with less amperage winds up being the same power output. A flyback transformer does that every day.
Now about the shorting of the coil, I do agree that this is one way of forcing a realignment of the copper and iron atomic nuclei,
not only the proton as you are saying because protons and the neutrons produce the nuclei and it is this nuclei that is realigned
thus producing a wire that has more atom nuclei aligned hence more aligned means more are ready to respond in spin unison to a
given stimuli (or more of a sway with AC, not spin like you are saying). But using AC to do that is not the best way because in AC
only the nuclei on the hot side are swaying back and forth so it is hard to use it as an alignment potential that needs to produce
one focal point.
If you really want to knock them nuclei in alignment, you may consider taking a good thick copper wire that can be wound
horizontally over the vertical variac winding. Let's say you had 5 feet of wire wound on the variac with 1 foot extra on each side as
lead wires making 7 feet. You then take another length of 7 feet and connect it too one of the already wound leads and leave the
rest of the wire loose beside the variac. The loose long end goes to the negative of a car battery. The short end of the wound side
would then be spiked on the positive terminal of the battery. Doing that several times will create a strong fully positive influence
around the variac forcing the copper and iron nuclei to shift their latent state position. This means more atoms will now respond in
unison and expend less energy fighting against other atoms in the wire as is the case in our wires today. This is a sort of forced
superconductivity 101 but in the fledgling state. Keshe is using this also but with a flame that has no potential attached so it is
harder to generate a pointal alignment and his break in periods can go to several months.
The more guys start to play with this atomic or nucleic shock treatment of copper wire, especially if the coil is tested in a base
set-up first, shocked, then tested again, the more closer we will get to making OU devices since the lack of OU is not our inability
to imagine, to construct, to experiment, but it is the checkmated copper and iron materials we use that have been used since 150
years now without change. The OU is right in the wire already but if you play the Standard EE game of conservation, hehehe, you
will never know it or even think of asking. Conservation of energy law is the intellectual valium that we all have been fed for so
long.
We build neo magnets that are dead, then shock them to life like Frankenstein. So why not do the same to the wire and the core?
It's just part of a natural progression. The atoms in a neo magnet have the same attributes as copper or iron but given that they
are heavier, with thicker shells and much larger nuclei to promote mutual nucleic looping movements that produce the magnetic
effect we see from the outside, which all these movements are simply analog to the movements of liquid iron in our Earth core
producing our gravity.
Anyways, I'll stop here and just keep on as a reader.
Last, last thing. The pages on this thread are reading like a dead sea scroll, always having to pan across long sentences. You need
to post smaller imagines by resampling the image to a smaller size before you post it. The contents does not warrant such big
images and just one imagine overblown per page kills the page. Either that or posters need to force a carriage return at each line
of around 80 characters. It is very distracting.
wattsup
PS: This post wast written with forced carriage retruns. hahahahaha
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Hey S9
In reference to WattsUps post, I am having the same concern as his question. If we quickly short out the output, how do we know that the phase of the 'AC' input is in alignment with the shorting timing? Wouldnt DC be a better choice in doing so?
You did not answer his question on that. And I dont want to be a bugger, but there are several questions I had asked that I had gotten no responsive answers to, and instead just gotten more theories.
If you really want to gain our confidence in going forward, please give us some direct answers to our questions as you can. I believe they are very relevant.
Like here is one that I meant to ask earlier. The 2 wires hanging from the table. You havnt said whether to measure the output at the bottom ends of the wires or at the output terminals of the variac. And my earlier question of the WHY of the 2 wires and how they are set up was not answered. ??? ??? ???
I dont want to become frustrated here, but it does seem you are avoiding some of these questions. Why is that exactly?
Mags
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avoiding questions
Yeah. Like what happens if you live on the sixth floor?
Or... God forbid.... in the _basement_? Should you dangle your wires up instead of down? Or what?
And what if your variac has been used before? Can they be re-conditioned so that they work like a new one that has never been used for anything before, not even tested in the factory?
At least nine people want to know.
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As requested, a picture of the name tag on the type 10 Variac and how you qualified it.
From S9:
120 + 15 = 135 = 1+3+5=9 also 12015=1+2+1+5=9 you have 1800 watts = 1+8=9 you have a 10% above peak voltage = 180 watts =1+8=9 you have 4x9 = 36 = 9 This makes 5 x 9 = 45 = 9 the first of the 9 hz is 36hz = 9 + 9 tracks . making a tottal of 8x9 = 81=9
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S9 said:
So how do we do that ? Well, its all up to vortex if he is happy to continue with the build and tests ?
Regards
S9
Perfectly happy to do the tests as soon as I receive a clearly drawn and notated schematic or wiring diagram that also includes an exact test procedure.
Regards, Vortex1
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Please dont use the variac for any other work and keep it away from all other electrical equipment.
You appreciate any variac worthy of use would have gone through some testing during manufacture unless you buy some Chinese made crap then you don't know what you get!
Regards
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Sequental.9,your findings are really "delicious" !
specially about proton and proton black hole and the mass difference:
https://www.google.pt/search?client=opera&q=proton+black+hole&sourceid=opera&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8 (https://www.google.pt/search?client=opera&q=proton+black+hole&sourceid=opera&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=az7Kl_pL7fw
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The image UFO.png is not readable at any level of magnification. You need to save your work in a different format or draw it in a higher resolution package. Either that or change the settings in the package you are now using so that it is readable when exported. Try downloading your own posts and see if you can read them.
Regards, Vortex1
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You can do amazing things with this ! It can bond metal without heat or even a mark ! It all depends on if you know the periodic codes and how to use them ? I have given you a lot to think about !
Don't miss use this toy !
Regards S9
The thing is, we cannot do anything with that. There is virtually ZERO description of the circuit. It is unusable as is. You gave nothing.
And the UFO chart that is unreadable is still unreadable. Vortex asked for a readable version but you just ignore the request and continue with more other nonsense.. So now its time to ignore you. That is the respect you deserve, as you ignore us, again and again. ;) Soon Vortex will fall away and you will be gone soon enough.
Now, Ive had it. Now I am closer to agreeing with Tinmans first post. You dont answer questions. You are not bringing out any circuits for the variac, like you said you would. What gives?
For now Im not going to pursue this any further. Its so far all cryptic and not showing us anything of understandable value, compared to what you said in your first post. I did the 9s on audacity. I listened to it on my sound system. Then I aligned the peaks, of which you didnt show us how to do. >:( It sounds exactly the same as without alignment. ::)
Then you just keep making claims of ALL the unrealistic things we can do, but no complete ways of doing so.
Im done. This will just go on like this, I have to assume. One big huge distraction from other threads that actually have quality substance. So its probable that is why you are here. To distract. And I heavily doubt you will prove otherwise.
Mags
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Hi vortex I am still having problems with your email ? 3 out of 5 times the email is not received ? can you confirm you have received the schematic ?
Regards
S9
I have received something, but I wouldn't call it a schematic. More like a pictorial drawing with only two connections to the variac and is cryptic to me, besides being unreadable from low resolution. You should post it here for comments and so that others can see it and verify if it is my computer or not that is the problem.
Maybe just start posting everything here if email is a problem.
Regards
Vortex1
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Thank you Mags.
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Listening to own sound system ? With the ear ? ::) Theta waves sound stream
https://www.google.pt/search?client=opera&q=theta+waves+music&sourceid=opera&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8 (https://www.google.pt/search?client=opera&q=theta+waves+music&sourceid=opera&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8)
"Gimme the beat" https://www.google.pt/search?client=opera&q=theta+waves+music&sourceid=opera&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8#q=binaural+beats (https://www.google.pt/search?client=opera&q=theta+waves+music&sourceid=opera&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8#q=binaural+beats)
https://www.google.pt/search?client=opera&q=neurophone&sourceid=opera&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8 (https://www.google.pt/search?client=opera&q=neurophone&sourceid=opera&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8)
Some scientifical facts (tactical use) and included commercial "hokuspokus"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypnosis (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypnosis) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meditation
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Who is this man and what is he doing ?
I don't know who the man his (forgot his name) but that picture was used to depict an experiment done by a couple of individuals whereby an RF field placed across a quartz crystal caused it tp not only expand to several times it's normal size but supposedly it also levitated. Truth or fiction, I don't know as I never did the experiment but found it interesting.
I believe the plates shown on either side of the crystal is where the RF is injected, so the crystal is in effect between two capacitor plates with a field that is uniformly vibrating at a high rate.
The hypothesis is that crystals in the natural environment grow by the transport of electrons (from the bottom) that are deposited on the top of a crystal, so they grow by adding progressive layers to the top.
Whether an RF field can accelerate the process is yet to be determined. We know that certain crystals expand when a voltage is applied, we call it piezoelectricity, but what is it really?
I'm willing to give S9 the floor and expand his ideas to an understandable level. Whether they will result in one replicable experiment that proves the correctness of his ideas is yet to be determined.
Thus far I still await a proper connection diagram and clear set of instructions how to proceed so I am on hold with the experiment.
I assume that S9 has already done the experiment knows the truth and wants us to learn, but his communication skills and knowledge level are far different than what most of us are used to the story is getting lost in the telling. I have found this to be the problem with savants I have dealt with in the past.
That is one possible explanation for what is going on with this thread. There are other explanations I am certain, I am not inclined to go there just yet. In the past, I would have.
Kind Regards, Vortex1
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Geometry and numbers makes the Nature genom.
materie: positive charge anti-materie : negative charge
Sequence9,proton and proton black hole.
What is about the anti-proton ? http://kworkquark.desy.de/lexikon/lexikon.antiproton/1/ (http://kworkquark.desy.de/lexikon/lexikon.antiproton/1/)
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OK now I remember it was Kowsky -Frost experiment from 1919
Here is the link to one article: http://keelynet.com/gravity/kfrost.htm (http://keelynet.com/gravity/kfrost.htm)
As I am a bit bogged down with other problems, it may be a while before I can get to any experimental data.
Meanwhile, why not show in more detail some of your positive experiments and the outcomes of them.
For others that may be interested here is a short summary of the specs on my Variac
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Prepared for Sequental.9 2 Sept 2016
Superior Electric Powerstat, Model 10 (Vortex1 Variac)
Weight: 725 Grams, 1.6 Lbs.
Dimensions:
Outside Diameter: 71.65mm 2.821 inches
Inside Diameter: 28.30mm 1.111 inches
Height: 38.75mm 1.525 inches
Wall Thickness: 21.51mm 0.848 inches
Wire Thickness: 0.30mm 0.012 inches
Number of Turns = 563
Length of Wire = 250.82 feet (3009.78 inches)
Terminal #1 = Line Low Side and Output
Terminal # 2 = Line High Side (If only 120 V out required)
Terminal #3= Variable Output Slider (main output)
Terminal #4 = Line High Side (if extended voltage to 132 Vout is required).
Maximum Amps= 1.25
Inductance 1-2 0.95 Henries
1-4 0.71 Henries
DC Resistance 1-2 23.7 Ohms
1-4 20.8 Ohms
Temperature rise and other data to follow
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The other thing to consider is insulation and it will need more varnish but an inert one !
Regards
S9
Attached is a pic of my variac, and also a view of the terminals. I still await a schematic, connection diagram and test procedure.
Please make a simple drawing with terminals 1 thru 4 clearly marked as to what they are supposed to connect to and the rest of the circuit.
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The other thing to consider is insulation and it will need more varnish but an inert one !
Regards
S9
Looks like this page is totally @#$@#$ since I accidentally posted the oversize images. The problem now is: I can't get to the modify button to delete the images and repost the resized images, no matter how I resize the page to view or even change my screen settings. I've never had this happen before but was using a different camera and didn't check the image size.
If anyone has a clue how I can delete the images please let me know and I will do it immediately. Fortunately the "quote" button was still visible so I could post this.
Thanks in advance and sorry for the error, I know it is a big pain when someone posts an oversize image, and I can't apologize enough for this stupid mistake.
But what is stupider is the fact that the buttons disappear off the screen with no chance of modifying the post.
Or maybe I am not savvy enough with computers. Has anyone else had this problem?
Thanks in advance for any help with this.
Stefan if you happen to read this kindly please delete the images in post #152
Kind regards, Vortex1
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Ahh
not so bad ...most of the image is on the page .
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Ahh
not so bad ...most of the image is on the page .
True but it is a real pain for everyone to have to scroll across the page to read it.
On another note, the weather and temperature has been fluctuating a lot here lately so I won't be running a temperature rise test anytime soon.
The good news is that the Nickel wire arrived sooner than expected.
The not so good news is that the "M1" schematic shows a capacitor with no value on the drawing. It also shows only two variac connections, mine has four. A Universal motor is also shown.
Questions for S9:
Is the attached schematic the correct one that you refer to as M1?
What is the capacitor value?
What type of Universal Motor? (specifically modified for AC or DC operation?)
What is the green slanty block thing lower left?
What is the light blue block thingy?
What is the "K" symbol in the break in the orange wire.
What is the distance between the orange wires?
From wikipedia:
Not all series wound motors operate well on AC current.[3] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_motor#cite_note-Kennedy.2C_Electrical_Installations.2C_II.2C_152-3)[note 1] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_motor#cite_note-4) If an ordinary series wound DC motor were connected to an AC supply, it would run very poorly. The universal motor is modified in several ways to allow for proper AC supply operation. There is a compensating winding (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Compensating_winding&action=edit&redlink=1) typically added, along with laminated pole pieces, as opposed to the solid pole pieces found in DC motors.[1] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_motor#cite_note-Delmar998-1) A universal motor's armature typically has far more coils and plates than a DC motor, and hence fewer windings per coil. This reduces the inductance.[4] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_motor#cite_note-tm-5)
Temperature rise tests coming soon!
Kind Regards
Vortex1
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On another note, the weather and temperature has been fluctuating a lot here lately so I won't be running a temperature rise test anytime soon.
Vortex1
Yeah, it can get that way when the sun is closer to the earth than the moon. ;)
Mags
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Yeah, it can get that way when the sun is closer to the earth than the moon. ;)
Mags
Yes Mags, I noticed that and should have mentioned it in my list. I thought it was unusually hot lately. for this time of year. And the sun seems brighter than usual.
Ours is not to question but to serve. ;)
Regards
Vortex1
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No,
it just looks that way ! The moon is moving into position as the sun is setting ! Full moon gives a better result !
So no heat test on the variac ? No nickel wire ? No increase in insulation ? Let go gentleman follow trough !
Regards
S9
I hope to run the temperature rise test today and as I said the Nickel wire has arrived.
Do you have a preferred brand of varnish? We don't want to make any errors here.
chop chop!
Regards, Vortex1
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Temperature rise tests
Instrument: Fluke 52 dual thermocouple thermometer
DUT: Powerstat Model10 Variac
Time Ambient DUT Trise
T+ 0 72.4F 72.4F 0
T+30m 72.0F 75.4F 3.4F
T+60m 72.2F 81.4F 9.2F
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Dear S9
Maybe you can help speed up the "saving the world" by posting actual photos and test data of your work so that this does not become a long drawn out R&D project with constant new test requirements and target revisions.
This would serve to inspire others and expedite the "saving the world" process and project
I really don't like the idea of this "saving the world" idea being placed squarely on my shoulders, besides I am up in years and not physically well, and not up to stringing 100 feet of wire across my lawn at this time. I will do what I can, when I can, and that's all folks.
The real TPU was a small self contained unit, had no earth connection or dangling wires, some of them could easily fit in a shoe box.
If you have concrete build information and test data that you can demonstrate, I'm sure you will have a large able following. This can all be put into a single build document for immediate dispersal and replication. Then the hundreds of successful build reports can return. That should make a creative person very happy.
There is an old Chinese saying that "if one is inclined to lead, one had better be equal to the task of leadership, otherwise one creates only confusion".
Lead by example!
Regards
Vortex1
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The real TPU was a small self contained unit, had no earth connection or dangling wires, some of them could easily fit in a shoe box.
@Vortex1,
It is either this or, Keshe's plasma technology. Take your pick. They both end at same place!
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Dear S9
you said:
When the mind is challenged by the unknown and reality is opened wider than ever before the world we live in begins to change and what we once new becomes only the seed and yet even a seed needs the right conditions to grow.
These words are well spoken. I have witnessed this once before in my life to some small degree.
I will continue to the best of my abilities.
Kind Regards,
Vortex1
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THE REAL TPU is programmed ! In the same way as the method as I have given you ! What pictures do you want ? A picture of a variac ? A video of a light bank ? It means nothing just pictures and a video ...
You have a chance to do something very important ! It's not a lot of time but I will add simple alternatives that require nothing more than just an off the shelf variac... But you can go much further than what is already well known.
Also so far I have made public some technology here so as to counter any claim of patent on it and If sometimes I post derivatives its to stop the dead meat of patients ......... Their are hundreds of them and not one on the market ! All the inventors just roll over on their patent hoping some idiot will invest millions on it...
That is never going to happen and if it does I will make sure it ends up in the bin with the rest of the crap in the patent office ! Am I a LEADER ? Yes, sir ! Why me ? I know more than truth I know what the future holds if you don't let go of your blind doubt and follow through.
When the mind is challenged by the unknown and reality is opened wider than ever before the world we live in begins to change and what we once new becomes only the seed and yet even a seed needs the right conditions to grow.
Your nickel wire is all you need to isolate the truth ! But I want to grow that truth right up to the point where the variac is a float 1 metre off the ground.
I am here doing the same thing as you but only a few steps further down the line and I have much faith in you MR VORTEX ! You need to find that faith and grow it, X, potently .....
There is no hurry ! Your fellow Americans only trust other Americans and they will trust you ! The fear as to what such findings will bring and one must conclude that soon men will come with other ideas and not all will have the living spirit in them like me.
It is impossible to challenge me I never compete ! ...
Please continue with the voltage results and then we go all the way up the ladder until you pull away the work bench and the variac just floats without dropping.
This is the freedom we WILL all have if you slowly climb the ladder ! Abundance and the keys to open the universe will be such a joy that humanity will completely forget alls its dysfunctions and hate and fear of one another.
WAR is so close and yet peace and the everlasting peace is even closer ! We must take this chance and make it so profound and as loud as a volcano or this world is doomed .................................................................. !!!!
Set it free Mr vortex ! Do it now as we still have a chance or it will be too damn late !
I am already in negotiations with manufacturers and I give my word any agreements will come to this post for a vote ! I am going to kick this planet right up the back side so god damn hard you had better be holding firm to the work bench ........
I ask you to all do the same !
Rember when aliens come to play with man's nuclear weapons and even land at a USA air base in England to count them . If you don't let go of the fear we will lose our right to rule our planet !
I now place firmly our world in your hand's Mr vortex .............. set it free ! ASAP ! Have faith and follow through !
Regards
S9
"THE REAL TPU is programmed ! In the same way as the method as I have given you ! What pictures do you want ? A picture of a variac ? A video of a light bank ? It means nothing just pictures and a video ..."
But pictures do mean something. Take 2 milk commercials on TV where one shows a cow in the field eating grass, then a slow pour into a glass from a glass pitcher. Then little Bobby drinks that milk.
But your milk commercial would be made up of rainbows, incomplete block diagrams of circuits without description. Which commercial will sell more milk?
Your latest circuit with the 100ft distance between ground points. There is no indication of what we are doing with the cap bank and inverter. No indication of if the caps are precharged or if the 'missing' power source is still connected. No apparent recharging of the caps from the circuit, And if we need those 2 ground connections, then there are no flights to the moon any time soon. ::)
You present things in a terrible, way out of order manner. Just simply terrible.
Mags
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Dear S9
OK so we'll forget about pictures.
I guess I should first re-run the temperature teats, as you seem to imply that it was important. Then I will move on to the 36 inch tabletop test, which I am setting up for now..
I have a very nice maple table that is precisely 36 inches top to bottom. Should the wires going to the ground be copper and is it better if the copper is oxidized (rusty brown)? Or should it be shiny new wire with no oxidation?
I'm assuming the nickel wire is for a load test, not the earth seeking prongs.
Should the variac face be pointing N, S, E, or W? or should it point to the moon?
What instruments did you use to measure the output and will it kill the effect if the instruments have stray capacitance to the mains? Should I use battery operated instruments? Does it matter?
A lot of questions, I know but I want to get it close to right on the first try.
I'm sure you've already been down this road so looking forward to helpful hints.
Kind Regards
Vortex1
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PLEASE INFORM NASA WE ARE READY !BUT IS MR VORTEX READY ? OR HAS HE BEEN VORTEXED ? VOLTS PLEASE !
Regards
S9
Mr. Vortex has been letting the test run but nothing to report. No activity, no voltage, no resonance, one full day now toroid sits on table with 36 inch wires to earth and meter at the tips but no voltage readings to report yet. I will probably have to try some of the tweaks you mentioned.
Regards, Mr Vortex
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You asked:
Please, can you provide the correct coil length on the OD and ID of the variac ? I am doing the harmonic position guide for it and I want to know what you will use to measure the tests with ?
Here are the full specs again:
Prepared for Sequental.9 2 Sept 2016
Superior Electric Powerstat, Model 10 (Vortex1 Variac)
Weight: 725 Grams, 1.6 Lbs.
Dimensions:
Outside Diameter: 71.65mm 2.821 inches
Inside Diameter: 28.30mm 1.111 inches
Height: 38.75mm 1.525 inches
Wall Thickness: 21.51mm 0.848 inches
Wire Thickness: 0.30mm 0.012 inches
Number of Turns = 563
Length of Wire = 250.82 feet (3009.78 inches)
Terminal #1 = Line Low Side and Output
Terminal # 2 = Line High Side (If only 120 V out required)
Terminal #3= Variable Output Slider (main output)
Terminal #4 = Line High Side (if extended voltage to 132 Vout is required).
Maximum Amps= 1.25
Inductance 1-2 0.95 Henries
1-4 0.71 Henries
DC Resistance 1-2 23.7 Ohms
1-4 20.8 Ohms
For measurement I can use a Fluke 77 or better. Tell me what you would like.
I will await your instructions as you said by email.
Kind Regards
Mr. Vortex
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Dr Gree is offing a $250 000 bounty on gravity ! So do we have an agreement on a 50/50 share of that reward ? hahah
I don't know any Dr. Gree, nor have I entered into any agreements with him.
You should work with him directly and let him pick up your working device, which I assume you have. Then no need for a 50/ 50 split with me, and besides that, I'm not interested in anyone's money. I'm into this for sheer scientific curiosity. 8)
you said:
What you will end up with is the world's first technology that will constantly measure earth's gravity and it will also be the most advanced detection system for earthquakes and will have ground to space flight ability
Actually, if it worked it would be the second such device as I assume you have already done all this work and have the first. It seems logical that if you have already a world changing device and if you want to "save" the world", as you say you do, why not just publish it? Why delay another day?
I cannot tell you any more about the length of the wire, it is all in the specifications I have given you twice, and I'm not inclined to unwind it to measure the length of wire, as I will never be able to rewind it as neatly as the machine wound version. I gave you the calculated length via core measurements so it will have to do:
Length of Wire (on the core) = 250.82 feet (3009.78 inches)
Dimensions of the core:
Outside Diameter: 71.65mm 2.821 inches
Inside Diameter: 28.30mm 1.111 inches
Height: 38.75mm 1.525 inches
Wall Thickness: 21.51mm 0.848 inches
IMPORTANT !
We need a 3rd output wire, but this one is attached to the core itself ! You will need to drill a small hole behind the connection plate into the iron and screw a connection into it very tight ......
If this was important, why was it not mentioned at the outset?
I can drill a hole in the variac. Send a drawing or a complete specification with the depth, size, screw type, location and inch lbs to tighten so there is no textual confusion.
When you run it is your grid power always a perfected 60hz and does yours grid volts ever fluctuate ? even by a small amount ? This will determine the best time to do the short .
I'm sure you are aware that all grid frequency and voltage fluctuates. You need to define "perfected 60Hz" in engineering terms. So the answer is yes.
Would you kindly also send an actual schematic, build and test procedure, along with your own tests and comparable data so we know what to shoot for? Also, so we don't have to play hide and seek on this device testing, as the target build and testing keeps changing.
Regard
Mr. Vortex
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S9 you said:
I am heading a £2 billion development fund which will include all advanced systems including the new research from John Hutchison as re manipulating radiation levels in the ocean .....
Well that's very impressive. ;D Best of luck with your new position. Are you hiring? There are a lot of people on this forum that might need the work. ;)
Ok so now I know who your are talking about, it's Dr. Steven Greer, for some reason I kept thinking Dr. Gree.
That' clears everything up!
Regards
Mr Vortron
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Dear S9
It has occurred to me that drilling a hole into the variac core will short the layers of the sheet metal ribbon tape that is wound to form the core. This ribbon tape is normally insulated between layers with a varnish to prevent shorts and eddy currents that would develop, creating extra heating in the core and thus reduced efficiency.
An alternative more benign approach might be to just glue a wire to the face of the core ribbon tape with some conductive epoxy.
Just thought I'd pass that by you for comment.
BTW, what do you intend for this third wire? Can you post a complete schematic of the proposed hookup?
Hopefully with labelled terminals?
Regards
Vortex1
http://www.mag-inc.com/products/tape-wound-cores (http://www.mag-inc.com/products/tape-wound-cores)
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Dear Sequental.9
You said:
READ THIS 5 TIMES AND GO FIND A REAL PIANO AND FINALY YOU WILL UNDERSTAND !
Right now I'm up to 3 times but hope to get to 5 times, my eye are hurting and my glasses are not too good.
I have a small screen laptop and the print is rather tiny.
I will look for a real piano, but what would I do with it?. My flat is too small to fit a grand piano. I do have a bundle of piano wire salvaged from am old piano.
So please add the 4 mm hole ASAP ! WHY DO YOU HIDE THE VOLTAGE RESULTS ? I HIDE NOTHING ! AND IS WHY I FOUND EVRYTHING... Quantum ballence ! Try it
Now that you have clearly explained it's requirement, I now understand the importance of the 4 mm hole and will drill it PRONTO. The only question is this: Is it a 4mm diameter hole or 4 mm deep hole. Whichever it is I will need the other parameter also.
Can I assume it is 4 mm diameter and 9 mm deep?
I will sleep well knowing I have been blessed with such a perfected vintage variac.
I thank you for the brief music refresher. The strings on my guitar are tuned EADGBE, but I sometimes use alternative tunings.
I am not seeing any voltage out of my variac and it has been running for days so I can report to you 000.0 volts. Honestly, I am not hiding anything. When it is hooked to the O Scope I see some small noise from a nearby fluorescent lamp.
Am I supposed to give it power? I thought the TPU gave out power?
Send the schematic with input and output connections and I'll give it another go.
Kind Regards
Vortex1
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How can it read zero volts if its switched on ? turn it round to its max position and what does it say ?
Only a well-tuned piano can locate the resonance in 5ths ! So you're in a flat but what about your workshop you said you had ?
You turn on the variac for how many days ? you stated only 60 minutes ! I am very sure you know what I mean and this little bit of pretending !
Its ok I have done what I came here for ! Good luck ! Buy ...
Regards
S9
Dear S9
The 60 minute test was for the temperature rise test only. The other test (according to the attached drawings) was not connected to the mains because I thought it was supposed to pick up some earth-moon- sun resonance.
Since none of the drawings you sent showed a mains input except an unrelated one, I assumed it was supposed to be in free air. The specific drawing you said to use was VOORTEXTESTS.png. (attached).
You said it was very important to drill a hole and attach a third wire, implying there were only two other wires, but this third wire was never shown in any of your drawings.
I will run the test again with mains input , but I have no idea what to do with the new third wire attached to the core. I will post the output voltage reading here.
Maybe it is very clear in your own head what you want done, but it is not that clear to me. Call me a dunce if it pleases you.
I'll give it another go and see what happens.
Have a great day.
REgards
Vortex1
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Now the video please ASAP ! Set up the small work space with camera from your phone not held by hand and take one step at a time up the north face of gravity and climb wit me to the top where we place a flag of freedom for all humanity !
Or get the fuck out of here !
Regards
S9
P S Do we have an agreement ?
Well that is motivating. ??? ;)
Mags
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Dude,
You've strayed a little off topic.
Kindly demonstrate your self-runner if you've got one, and let's get down to business shall we?
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just buy the same transformer as vortex dont use it and bring it here ASAP ! And then you can get your build ready ! Its not such a big deal is it let go of all that mumbo jumbo in your heads ! Vortex went off like a bat out of hell taking his tests results with him ! I gave him some extra detail via private email.... Your going to need that !
But vortex has no idea what trouble he is going to get into and to counter that you need the right people around you ! And to that its best we all protect one another....
Trust me on this ! As vortex starts to sale it men in white coats will just take vortex to the lab for detailed brain tests and you won't see vortex ever again hahaha
Stick together share together and protect each other or in other words your fucked !
Regards
S9
Well there ya go. Put others in harms way. While you remain safe?
If you would have just stayed straight forward, one step at a time, instead of preaching of all the UFO possibilities and turning copper to gold, etc. etc. maybe there would be some results of the energy end of it already. But you go so off course, failing to put out certain details along the way. This will probably go on for months with no outcome.
It is your fault that the project is still no where near providing any results. And that is truth. ;)
You laugh at the possibility of Vortex disappearing. So why are you so safe in this case? You using Tor as a browser to post anonymously, while leaving Votex in the path of possible danger? >:( Only if what you are saying is true. None of us knows for sure yet. ::) Because you wont put yourself in harms way by proving anything you say.
You are a real piece of work I tell ya.
Mags
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Well there ya go. Put others in harms way. While you remain safe?
If you would have just stayed straight forward, one step at a time, instead of preaching of all the UFO possibilities and turning copper to gold, etc. etc. maybe there would be some results of the energy end of it already. But you go so off course, failing to put out certain details along the way. This will probably go on for months with no outcome.
It is your fault that the project is still no where near providing any results. And that is truth. ;)
You laugh at the possibility of Vortex disappearing. So why are you so safe in this case? You using Tor as a browser to post anonymously, while leaving Votex in the path of possible danger? >:( Only if what you are saying is true. None of us knows for sure yet. ::) Because you wont put yourself in harms way by proving anything you say.
You are a real piece of work I tell ya.
Mags
Well i did try and say something mag's,-!but! --refer post 72.
But now you have seen the light :D
Brad
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I've not disappeared or been taken away by men in white coats or aliens although I must admit, I wouldn't mind a ride in one of their craft.
I've just taken a break from the mood of the thread, which has changed to a bit uncomfortable.
I truly did want to give it a go, but it is all on the back burner for now. The stuff that was sent me by email was more of the same that was posted here. No special secrets or any of that sort.
I want to stress that I work at my own pace and not according to the dictates of anyone else. I have no deals or agreements with anyone, verbal , written, or implied, including S9, so any such claims otherwise are simply fantasy.
I'll be back with some numbers when I get around to doing some tests. I'm busy with other important personal matters and obligations right now.
This model Variac was produced probably in the hundreds of thousands or more and are quite plentiful and reasonably priced
Anyone can buy an identical Variac on ebay and do the tests themselves, provided they can get a step by step test procedure. Thus far such information is nebulous despite many requests for same.
Maybe S9 is a great genius, maybe not, who knows, only time will tell. I'm open minded despite the tension that seems to have developed. .
I think S9 has some great insights regarding the musical essence of the Universe. I hope that he can put it all together in a manner that is logical, orderly, step by step and clearly understandable, and also hopefully with some humility, such as we often witness in truly great men of science.
Best of luck to all in your research
Back Soon and Kind Regards
Vortex1
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Must I say you are all a bit off the beaten path ? I am interested in everything including UFOs when 1000 sheep go missing overnight without a sound and the gate of the field is still locked and people seeing strange lights in the sky I am most interested as to how and why.
Who is BRAD ? hahaha is that you Tin man ? What's your problem ? TPU ? I gave it all to vortex and what he does with it is up to him ! If you want one then build it ...
Unless you know a little bit about writing music its going to be a bit difficult for you to understand as the construction is about resonance in 5ths and vortex plays music so he understands.
Just present here your variac and I will detail how to set it up as I did for vortex ! Get your head round it and stop acting strange and daft !
I am just different than you people ! Get over it ! I dont have any limits I dont live in a box I am out of the box running free ...
I think that tin man should switch one on maybe with any luck he will do a runner with it hahaha ! lol
Regards
S9
I play the trombone,keyboard,and flute,and there is no free energy there cobba,as you have to blow like the wind,and move your hands and fingers--all requires energy.
Think i'll give your 5ths ::) a miss thanks.
A smart man once asked this question-
what is the mechanism for resonance ?
Enjoy
Brad
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TIN MAN YOUR A VERY BAD MUSICIAN !
I did say the piano ! It seems your stuck in the head like some kind of out dated performer who keeps playing the same old song ! Let go son ! Play a different tune . Try the sustain pedal in 5ths !
When I play my guitar and need it to sound louder without electricity I push hard the tip of the neck onto a large wooden box and the sound is more then double in volume .Every musician knows this ! But with the way free energy works when you take away the guitar the table is continuously sounding the last note played.
Thats check mate Mr TIN MAN !
Regards
S9
Thats transferring energy at a loss
Sorry,but a fail for you there.
Brad
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Eat this video Mr Tin Man ! Remember a frequency is also a musical note ! Then think real piano and finally to master the trick you use geometric harmonics as provided in all the data I have given here ... Its easy to do But I do it in a very special way much better than the USA TPU....... I call it OMG ..LOLXX HAHAHAHAHAHAH I WIN !!!!!
youtu.be/LGvToweUXPA
Ah-so you have all the answers--you have a self sustaining TPU--a free energy device :D-->
,and yet here you are,posting away on a forum,with the Bahama's no where in sight,and the bank balance looking like last weeks lunch.
Here is a challenge for you-->show us your working free energy device.
Bet you cant do that--oh,and save us all the stories as to why you cant or wont show anything,as we have heard the same tune for many years now.
Brad
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ARE YOU READY MR TIN MAN ????? DO YOU HAVE A VARIAC ????? ANYONE WILL DO !!!!
Regards
S9
No,but i do have a head ache now.
Need coffee
Enjoy.
Brad
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Experiment with this !
Why dose it need to be plugged into a wall socket if it is a free energy device?.
Brad
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Number of neurons in human brain approx = 86 billion or 86X109 (most humans anyway)
Estimated number of stars in Milky Way galaxy = 100-400 billion or as many as 4X1011
The African Elephant's brain has around 257 billion neurons, 3 times that of a human, so that is a bit closer to the number of stars in the Milky Way.
(FWIW, the estimated number of stars in universe= 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 or 1X1024)
Too bad the "transporter technology" is limited to only 2.2 trillion atoms (2.2X1012), an average sized grain of salt has approx 1.2 million trillion atoms (1.2X1018).
Cardboard box against guitar= acoustic impedance matching...
Grin and bear...
PW
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Number of "human" cells in a human body approx. = 37.2 trillion
Number of "non-human" cells living in or on the human body (bacteria, parasites, etc) approx. = 370 trillion
There are ten times as many "non-you" cells living in or on you than there are "you" cells making up your body. Most of the "non-human" cells reside in your gut.
As always, just grin and bear...
PW
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Dear S9
you said:
Now we depend on quantum mechanics on an advanced level to switch off the vortex generator and every other one of that kind any time at any location on this planet !!!
You don't have to worry about switching off the "Vortex Generator", because it is not switched on. It is safely back in it's plastic wrapper, in it's box, where it will stay until a proper schematic is posted as often requested.
If you wish to have a following, step up to the plate and show a video of your own work instead of belittling others to do it for you.
"Upon he who makes the claims, the burden of proof is squarely placed."
Carry on in the same manner, and the only proof you will have given is that you have joined the ranks of "The Hatter".
You still have time to redeem yourself and, as you wish, "save the planet".
More fantastical, vaporous claims will not do it.
Demonstrating your own work, not conjecture or hypothesis, will.
"If your theory does not agree with experiment, it is wrong".... Richard Feynman.
So go ahead and make the actual proof! not more conjecture.
It's rests on you.
Regards,
Vortex1
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S9
Unfortunately, if it remains this cryptic form of introduction, then I think @S9, you have grossly underestimated how dumb and
uni-tech blinded to Standard EE we really are and you should have provided more clarity at our level and not this dispensation from
what we here on Earth will perceive to be way above the clouds.
It's always up to the teacher to mold the discourse in the shape and form that will be understood by the target audience. Use of
descriptive and pertinent analogies is one form, comparatives is another. But if you continue to talk in a way where everything you
say has no where for anyone to position it in our reality as a practical method, then you may as well go draw paintings for the
blind or write songs for the deaf.
You went through this whole stint under Atomix if I remember correctly and now you are about to do the same mistake now as
S9. So my question is really very simple. How can someone as you that is obviously well versed in whatever that is enough to
show you do have a good sense of the intellectual, then be so wrong on how to portray what you want to show in such a scuttled
manner that really portrays yourself as a major kook. If there are powers above looking down at you and counting on you to get
across a beneficial message to mankind, they must be up there right now yelling "WTF are you doing with all this crap shot
around, left, right and center and all over the place. Why did we choose this guy? When will he just shut up and get to the point?".
So from all these pages so far, all i could actually understand is octaves and frequencies. What you failed to talk about is how they
are SPECIFICALLY related to how to use or deploy these in our coils. The how and the why.
wattsup
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S9,
If you are serious about revealing some important knowledge, you are failing.
The numbers and texts in the images are totally unreadable.
You need to attach them at a higher resolution or put them all in a pdf in hi-res and post the pdf.
Thank you.
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How is your OU device coming?
Do you plan on demonstrating it soon?
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Dear S9
you said:
Vortex refused to provide hes voltage readings on hes transformer ? I wonder WHY ? So its not easy for me to final the USA home transformer one ...
Get vortex back here and tel him he has a duty as an honest American to do the right thing and let you guys have the basic zero load voltage test results ... ASAP !!!
Contrary to the above, I did supply to you the voltage readings. You must have missed it. They were zero volts.
Don't try to shift the burden of responsibility to others.
The burden of proof rests squarely on the shoulders of the party making the fantastic claims.
More talk and pretty pictures will not do it. Show the world your actual device and your test data.
Regards
Vortex1
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This zero point generator has now got a manufactures agreement to build it ! There is no limit to what it can do when it comes to free energy production !
The 12 kw zero point racing engine is to follow !
I wont let you down only you can do that !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5prT2qiiWY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5prT2qiiWY)
.................................................................................. !
Any questions let me know !
Regards
S9
p.s.: you are mixing,more or less, that all (written) spoken(sperical): o'l : but L/R or/and R/L reading ?
I AM THE ALL 7 THE ONE AND A MESSENGER OF TRUTH SO HELP ME GOOD
membro duma familia consagrada ,parents and 5 childs
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Play the
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiPOf3C_EEk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiPOf3C_EEk)
O
-game
and get your score :
Happy weekend
OCWL
p.s.: internet life time 30 min. max per day
off-line game life time 60 min.max. per day
and the rest autonom(e) freetime per day ? f.e. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DU8JqKgH0iw
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Relaxing ,hmm,relaxar fine, with Plancks "Quanten Paar" to Quanta then finely to quantanamera
also guantanamera and dance with them as audience member and probably leading this girl as male dancer part of this dance !?
Turandot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAs7U1dyesQ
Besame your neighbours mucho and greets them from me and others
OCWL
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Sequential./Sequental 3²/9 , you want to get the http://www.dicionariodesimbolos.com.br/ancora/ (http://www.dicionariodesimbolos.com.br/ancora/) dancing ?
Pourquoi ?
OCWL
p.s.: https://translate.google.de/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&u=https%3A%2F%2Fderhonigmannsagt.wordpress.com%2F2013%2F08%2F10%2Fdie-erschaffung-des-auserwahlten-volkes%2F&edit-text=
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Are we here,Epos-entrance ?: https://www.google.pt/search?q=himmelssoehne&client=opera&hs=W62&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiMquO80c7PAhVDzRQKHY_ZDb0QsAQIJw&biw=1366&bih=668 (https://www.google.pt/search?q=himmelssoehne&client=opera&hs=W62&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiMquO80c7PAhVDzRQKHY_ZDb0QsAQIJw&biw=1366&bih=668)
https://www.google.pt/search?q=himmelssoehne&client=opera&hs=W62&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiMquO80c7PAhVDzRQKHY_ZDb0QsAQIJw&biw=1366&bih=668
to be or not to be
OCWL
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MAGNETIC VACUM ..
Dr.Keith Kenyon,one of his publications
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/mosaics?CC=US&NR=3610974A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19711005&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP
Figure 5
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Sequential.9 :
citating :"The reality is very simple you either build or just look at it ??
Their s a scale to energy and some coils missing for the advanced versions ! The new global price per KWH for home energy if we pump it into a national grid in every country is an amazing 5p per kwh uk currency ...
Above urs and here my targets,begin 2016 possible:
http://overunity.com/12794/re-inventing-the-wheel-part1-clemente_figuera-the-infinite-energy-machine/msg493483/#new (http://overunity.com/12794/re-inventing-the-wheel-part1-clemente_figuera-the-infinite-energy-machine/msg493483/#new)
partial citation: " altruistic work principle here on overunity.com and the target is less 0,01 Euro/KWh and for the generator an average price about 150 Euros/KW !
Do not risk with high expectations that your investors will loose their money in one of your investment projects,that will not compete with these financial numbers,all inclusive !
R.O.I.: 100% investment return from the "prototyp and C.A.D.-plan development"without gain/profit interests,probably with kickstarter and similar finance plat(t)form help .Up this 100% R.O.I.-"breakeaven"-time-point "open source" ! " Citation-end.
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Had a flashback S9 with some of the stuff you have been posting.
:)
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Sequental.9,
#379 :
emphazing the relationship from a CD-disc (mirror-side) which is in a light-spot,and this CD-disc in movement and the light-spot in ccw/cw-movement;
the 2D-"happy total bandweith colours"-image, from you, delivered can be felt as .... ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsQh1AT6qUE
seen by MRI/MRA, coloured image digitizer or by light-spot
Regard
OCWL
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I have come under some kind of cyber attack ? A very bad one !!! I am sorry but I can no longer post here ! I hope the data provide has been of some help and I wish you all the best of luck with all wish for ...
Thanks for all the info and best of luck with all wish for ...[/size] [/size]
Goodbye
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All the best ! lol x
LOL indeed.
Your drip feeding of information did not work. Now I have a half finished space craft in my garden that will go no where.
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OK VORTEX ! Not a problem . But one has to let go of all they know and take on board there are many of us that tend to keep things private and for good reason, as the world is a bit tricky to balance and sometimes knowledge in the wrong hands is a bad seed of unknown realities.
But I also except that we all need a chance fro freedom and to that, I will begin to lay the path that will reward you with your goal ! First, these things are never found by theory as there are no theories that created them.
For now let go !!!!! START AGIAN !!!!!!
I will detail only the core transformer and one that is already on the market but it has this very interesting ability that does not relate to OHMs law but it is built by this law and there it should not do what it does.
This may come as a bit of a surprise but all 500 watt 2 AMP 240v to 275v AC variable transformers and also all the ones below that all have this interesting effect. And some of the old ones can hold a charge when you switch them off if by chance you had the right one and was messing around with it by shorting out the out put wire when in the off mode. Some will spark and even blow a 10 amp fuse or more.
But that is not the only thing it can do as on the QC mark it states a max voltage of 275 AC v but you get 330 V. All of these units produce the 330V so that is 55v over the QC mark. But you need the 240 to 250 v AC grid input to isolate the gain.
If you know how and what you can convert them to hold this magic charge but I will refuse to offer that out here and one has to give respect to the American for gaining hes patent but unfortunately its not worth a penny.
Who owns the combustion engine ? If you know what I mean ?
So you don't need anything but just a dumb transformer no secrets no head banging theory or a degree of the unknown as that is impossible . Where is there in this world a qualified zero pint engineer ? No such thing so no QC pass can ever be made ! This is a real problem for mass market use. And it is only a stupid off the shelf transformer, not an invention as its just an effect where we can all throw our worthless theory at it and compleat of such nonsense for the next 13.8 billion years.
Now this transformer just loves to give you abundant free energy but you're going to need a few more tricks for it to get above 100 watts and harmonics is how it is done with a guide of offsetting a gain in resistance !
Think water pipe like a garden hose and jump up and down on it as it flows, then bend it like a set of waves where each wave is bigger than the one before it . Think gravity and compare gravity to an electrical earth !
Think vacuum and measure the mass of the flow of water ! Know that the resistance is 7.76 G as the water travels up the wave in the pipe but as it comes down it gains 9.8 G over a metre and the end result is one that can empty a swimming pool just with gravity.
The difference here between the water pipe and the magic transformer is one is water the other is electricity and the swimming pool is the transformer. But with a water pool it needs a lot of rain to keep a constant flow and is the same with the transformer.
The water pipe set up as a set of waves it also harmonics in electrical terms ! How many waves can you have inside a wave ? Well, it is always 2.2 trillion if each wave has the same potential of mass if each wave is a tiny bit faster so we can have a saturated field density inside each wave. Speed is equal to volts so as each wave harmonic is set under and inside the wave above not only is it best to increase the volts as to keep the overall potential constant for each wave added.
We can now say that there are 2 transformers one as the pool as a collector and the other as the field density amplifier and the final part is the load and the rain that keeps the pool collector full over infinity.
Keep it simple isolate the collector and the amplifier than work out your load and keep you working temperature at no more than 40c as at 80c you encounter electron permeability and depletion of the effective work of the field.
Maplin does a cheap 500 watt 2 amp transformer for £80 but in the small TPU he has a 1 amp core at around £40 but this gives you a good start on it with very little money . The more advanced ones have different cores and a bit of this and that ect ect .
Look again at the water pipe can you see in your mind many hills where each one is bigger than the next ? This in electrical terms is a gain on resistance and EMF would normally leak out at the high potential in each hill or wave in the pipe. And there are many ways to increase the resistance and counter use the back emf to overcome it and increase the flow of the current.
I have a 12 KW type system but to keep it producing a high field density I chose to add virtual particles and it keeps my system cold and helps me stay at low volts DC .....
But keep close to your TPU LEARN THE BASIC SET UP AND ISOLATE YOUR FREE ENERGY CURVE .......................................!
No need for the theory of how the pool collector transformer is kept constant for now! All I can say on that is each proton is equal to 1 KW of pure energy and all electrons are but one field one source of power throughout the universe.
You only need to say 10 of these transformers to power your home using the grid as the attractor and the transformers as the collector and then you have no electricity bill .......
But if you tel that to the energy company they will inform you that energy amplification from there grid also belongs to them and they will accuse you of energy theft ! They know !
But for now just buy the dumb stupid 1 or 2 amp transformer from Maplin and confirm the 330v AC at 55v gain over the QC mark ! Do it NOW ASAP ...........Than we can go to the next level and get you off the dam grid without problems from patents or governments or greedy evil energy companies.
Avoid the 3000 other youtube examples of crap or out dated heaps of junk or the buy me now head bangers !!!!
I am here now .....................GOOD LUCK !
Regards
S9
Does this idea really work ? after all it's just an autotransformer, wont it have loss just like any other device
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So where does the silver wound transformer come from, or can I use an RS type to test the phenomena and how is it connected up and won't it need capacitors the tune the phase, not to mention the use of an Earth leakage trip for safety ? and it's nothing to do with a QEG device.
http://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/products/8902765/?tpr=3
AG
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So where does the silver wound transformer come from, or can I use an RS type to test the phenomena and how is it connected up and won't it need capacitors the tune the phase, not to mention the use of an Earth leakage trip for safety ? and it's nothing to do with a QEG device.
http://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/products/8902765/?tpr=3
AG
Dear AG,
You don't need that.
The only thing you need is a piece of wire and a voltage source.
No transformer no mass circuitry just a piece of wire and a voltage source and a means of measuring what comes out of it.
This is enough to generate / observe single kicks.
In this example the effect is electrostatic, open loop.
Autotransformer, you mentioned it above ,yes this is correct.
It's the same wire used in above example but formed into a coil with several tap points.
Next step you create multiple electron flows in that coiled wire.
In stead of observing only the electrostatic effect, you now start to see also the magnetic effects.
The fields generated bump into each other this causes the vibrating sensation in just the one wire/coil.
Now at some point, voltage / wave length / wire length / circumference starts to play a part.
But it is easiest to start by looking at these coil sections as completely separate circuits, so then you can experiment and find out how to drive them in a way that they start to interact with each other.
You can check the documentation i made some years ago.
Read for example the following quotes from Mr Mark:
I told you that the simplest form of over unity is a piece of wire and a voltage source.
Anyone can actually connect it and measure.
See for yourself the kick.
NO coil no xmrs, just a kick.
WE are not talking about a coil or a transformer or anything developing a primary to secondary flux.
We are just talking about a straight piece of wire, some electrons and a method of measuring what comes out of it.
Tesla states that you can have all kinds of electrons flowing through a wire traveling in different directions relating only to their potential power source.
He even said that you could have different electron flows through a single wire completely separate from each other.
I tried it and he is right!
The two transformers get slightly out of phase with each other.
I became interested in the interaction between the two AC transformers.
The interaction can be very reveling, trust me.
In the case of my power unit, you create several frequencies within a space of the collector coil's circumference.
The frequencies are directly related to the circumference of the collector coil.
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So simple but at the same time so difficult, because it leaves the textbooks.
The classical formulas for power calculation do not deal with a wire that uses or is connected to several sources / multiple electron flows.
But i can assure you, if you do these simple experiments it will not take long for you to develop the understanding that you need to proceed.
Why don't you give it a try?
If you have any questions, or something isn't clear, just post it, i will be happy to help.
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Turbo, I like it :)
I'm going to hypothesize...
Pulse a single strand of wire and you get a kick with a longitudinal impulse.
Insert 3 taps - say, 120 deg out of phase - and pulse them, you get kick-kick-kick.
If you can collect the longitudinal impulses coming off these kicks and dump them into a cap, it would seem to me you have some serious charge at your disposal.
Am I moving in the right direction?
Bob
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Tesla states that you can have all kinds of electrons flowing through a wire traveling in different directions relating only to their potential power source.
He even said that you could have different electron flows through a single wire completely separate from each other.
I tried it and he is right!
I had thought of that before. Say we have a wire 5in, and a AA battery on the left side of the wire, Pos at top, and a similar batt on the right side of the wire, pos down.
If the batteries are in a polarity position that when connected to the wire in the middle that each would produce a current in the wire opposite of the other, then the batteries are essentially in series! ;) There may be no or not much current in the wire at all as the batteries are in series. There is no way to isolate them in the least if both are connected to the wire at the same time. Now if one batt is low on charge, or just different batteries, then there may be an imbalance where current most likely would flow in only one direction in that wire by way of the strongest battery potential. This is just my thoughts and opinion so far as I never tested it as it seems correct.
Now when it comes to complicated signals like cable tv and such, there would most likely be some nodes, in an instant of time, where electrons are poised to be flowing this way, and in another node electrons poised to flow flow the other way and nodes where the electrons are say at rest.
Mags
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I had thought of that before. Say we have a wire 5in, and a AA battery on the left side of the wire, Pos at top, and a similar batt on the right side of the wire, pos down.
If the batteries are in a polarity position that when connected to the wire in the middle that each would produce a current in the wire opposite of the other, then the batteries are essentially in series! ;) There may be no or not much current in the wire at all as the batteries are in series. There is no way to isolate them in the least if both are connected to the wire at the same time. Now if one batt is low on charge, or just different batteries, then there may be an imbalance where current most likely would flow in only one direction in that wire by way of the strongest battery potential. This is just my thoughts and opinion so far as I never tested it as it seems correct.
Now when it comes to complicated signals like cable tv and such, there would most likely be some nodes, in an instant of time, where electrons are poised to be flowing this way, and in another node electrons poised to flow flow the other way and nodes where the electrons are say at rest.
Mags
Dear Mags,
You are very close.
However the two flows are completely separated.
I am not much of an artist but i have drawn a simple sketch for you of what it is suppose to look like.
As you can see in the image the two flows happen on the same single wire, completely separated from each other.
This only incorporates the clean DC components.
When you replace the batteries you mentioned with switching elements you will then be able to generate high voltage and rf components that do cause interaction between these coil sections.
Then you will be able to generate the interaction Steven mentions in his writings.
Especially when your switching frequency is somewhat related to the resonance frequency, or a harmonic of the coil you made.....
So as you can see in the schematic the batteries are not in series, this is where you (have to) leave that textbook.
I noticed the arrows are drawn wrongly, but i hope you get the point.
If you have any more questions let me know.
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What happened to sequential.9 and his posts?
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S9 was playing outside of his Box and making a mess of other threads ,Stefan gave him many chances ,
he is on a time out....
*he does keep reincarnating himself .
if you truly wish to engage him I believe an Email can be found ?
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Dear Mags,
You are very close.
However the two flows are completely separated.
I am not much of an artist but i have drawn a simple sketch for you of what it is suppose to look like.
As you can see in the image the two flows happen on the same single wire, completely separated from each other.
This only incorporates the clean DC components.
When you replace the batteries you mentioned with switching elements you will then be able to generate high voltage and rf components that do cause interaction between these coil sections.
Then you will be able to generate the interaction Steven mentions in his writings.
Especially when your switching frequency is somewhat related to the resonance frequency, or a harmonic of the coil you made.....
So as you can see in the schematic the batteries are not in series, this is where you (have to) leave that textbook.
I noticed the arrows are drawn wrongly, but i hope you get the point.
If you have any more questions let me know.
Hey Turbo
Where did you run across that config as explained by Tesla? Just wondered
Mags
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Dear Mags,
You are very close.
However the two flows are completely separated.
I am not much of an artist but i have drawn a simple sketch for you of what it is suppose to look like.
As you can see in the image the two flows happen on the same single wire, completely separated from each other.
This only incorporates the clean DC components.
When you replace the batteries you mentioned with switching elements you will then be able to generate high voltage and rf components that do cause interaction between these coil sections.
Then you will be able to generate the interaction Steven mentions in his writings.
Especially when your switching frequency is somewhat related to the resonance frequency, or a harmonic of the coil you made.....
So as you can see in the schematic the batteries are not in series, this is where you (have to) leave that textbook.
I noticed the arrows are drawn wrongly, but i hope you get the point.
If you have any more questions let me know.
Also, one thing I find in common with 2 outer coils and one in between, if one of the coils is wound opposing, or not as you show, where you just reverse the input of one of the outer coils, is the fact that 2 bucking coil fields of the outer coils presents a single pole in the middle with those fields emanating out radially in the area of the middle coil. This seems like a good thing as it is concentrated on the middle coil as a whole. Like the way I have been applying magnets to mechanically induce coils, Ive mounted disk magnets with like poles facing with a plastic spacer and that combined pole fieled leaves that spacer gap radially so as it passes through the air core the fields are in a position to cut the coil winding all the way around the coil, not just one side of the coil, as we typically see. Like a typical pulse motor, the magnet passes one side of the coil, cutting that side, causing current to say go up in those winding portions producing say a pos output swing, and then the magnet departs the coil center its fields cut that side of the coils windings, now causing the current in that side of the coil to go up, and in the opposite direction as the approach, giving a neg output swing. In that case, only half or most likely less than half of the winding is being induced by the magnet pass, at least at perfect right angles. That was why I did my Lasersaber Eazy Spin Motor version with twice as many mags alternating poles, so that there is a magnet cutting the approach of each coil while the other mag of opposite polarity is cutting the other side of the coil.
Even in a transformer like a toroid where the pri is on one side and the sec on the other, if you believe like me that the primary field cuts across the core hole to cut the sec to induce it, then most likely only the pri winding portions in the toroid hole are interacting with the inner portions of the sec winding, etc.
So in reference to this, Im wondering if there is an advantage to inducing the whole sec coil via this radial field from the 2 opposing coils, or mags.
I suppose the 2 legs in the middle are the output? Does the middle coil even have to be connected to the outer coils as shown, as the only way I see it providing any output is by way of induction?
Mags
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Also, you can download Picpick picture editor and resize the pics to fit the page. It has a resize option and it looks like you need to shrink to 30%
It has screen capture also which helps making pics you cant grab n save easily
Mags
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Dear Mags,
I do not really care about the size of my image, i care more about what it displayed.
Nothing has survived.
The schematic was intended exactly 'as is' but unfortunately, you already started to modify it mentally.
Unfortunately, if you remove the electrical connections between the coil sections, the model does not meet the one wire criteria any more.
As a result, the model would also not meet the multiple electron flow in a single wire anymore.
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Dear Mags,
I do not really care about the size of my image, i care more about what it displayed.
Nothing has survived.
The schematic was intended exactly 'as is' but unfortunately, you already started to modify it mentally.
Unfortunately, if you remove the electrical connections between the coil sections, the model does not meet the one wire criteria any more.
As a result, the model would also not meet the multiple electron flow in a single wire anymore.
Its been told to many here about the reason pics should fit the page. It stretches the screen beyond normal borders, of which a lot of text posts are stretched along with it. So it is yeah, easy for those to throw up huge pics, even if that detail is unnecessary, but now most readers have to move the screen back and forth, back and forth, just to read the posts of a page, all because one guy doesnt care. ???
Ok, so how exactly are you determining that the currents are flowing in both directions in one wire?
1 Is it just trickery by having current flow one way in the left coil/batt and current flowing in the other direction in the right coil/batt, and the coil in the middle is just there for the sake of calling it all one wire???
2 I thought that what Tesla meant here was that currents could flow in opposite directions side by side in a wire. like a 2 way street. But if as you seem to illustrate that he just meant that in a length of wire that in one section of the wire we can apply a source across just that section, making current in one direction, in that wire section, and then doing the same on another section of the wire, but reverse polarity of that source so the currents in that section of wire are opposite of the other powered section, no 2 way streets, then I have to say, well, woopty doo. What is the gist?
3 The way I see it, as you show, the middle coil should do exactly what it would do, whether it is connected to the outer coils or not. It would be induced by the outer coils for a short period when applying dc input and when removing it, or if the outer coils are ac input. So what makes it special with the middle coil connected to the outer coils vs not connected?
Mags
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Ok. New page. I resized the pic.
Mags
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It would have been better if you had tried what's on it.
3 The way I see it,
Mags
Isn't the way it is.
I am simply going to rest my case once again until somebody shows me some wire, in stead of whining about having to move their screen.
Too bad... i was sure it was finally going to happen but i was wrong.
I will not join a discussion theorizing regardless the title of this topic, which is about the source of energy not the thing itself.
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No matter. Have some coils to wind to try some things. Whether it is EmJunkie or you, Ive seen this configuration many times before.
When one first looks at it, as shown in most configurations, the outer coils are the primary and the middle coil is the secondary, the first thought that may come to mind is that the opposing outer coils may null induction effects on the center coil. Maybe that is why some people just stir away assuming impossibility, etc.
Going with my first assumptions that you said I was close on, well that is where Im aiming to see if Im correct, close or what ever.
It all has also lead me to a design on a toroid. 4 coils. 2 that are wound opposing with equal gaps between ends. And within those end spaces will be the secondaries. Just thinking to make use of the other ends of the secondaries. ??? ;)
I can see that with either like wound outer coils, or opposing wound outer coils, with inputs to each accordingly so their fields oppose in the middle, that they can induce the middle secondary. And I also see that when the sec fields affect the primaries, that interaction should be virtually nulled as one outer primary will be induced by the sec current opposite to its input, and the other outer primary induced to say help the input, so if the 2 outer coils are in series so that their fields oppose, the sec would not affect the primary input as it is negated for reasons said in this long ass sentence.
So is this the lenzless way? ???
Mags
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You are still holding on to what you have learned in the past and try to use it as a template to explain away what should happen.
The best approach is really to try and see what happens, and to put aside all these idea's you are currently talking about.
Keep in mind that when you fire a short pulse into one of the coil sections, or charge up one of the coil sections, and then switch off the powersource, you will observe the inductive kickback.
As i suppose you know the voltage from the inductive kickback theoretically rises to infinity.
You are good at explaining the magnetic field components between these coil sections, but what can you say about this high voltage spike that travels about this one wire setup, and certainly has an effect on the other coil sections?
Do you not realize that this spike does not see or encounters the closed loop (textbook) resistance.
This is also why you can not use separate coils they have to be connected to distribute the high voltage and pherhaps concideration of RF like components.
Steven mentiones a (high) voltage source and a piece of wire.
This voltage source could be a battery or charged capacitor in the early experiments, however it could very well be a charged coil as you will find out when you start trying these things, and if you think about it is a lot easier to get to very high voltages with a charged coil, as opposed to a bank of batteries/ or dangerously charged capacitors.
There is a reason that there are two coil sections at the outsides of the middle section.
And this reason is not magnetic so i suggest you drop the dynamo or generator view on this thing, and especially not to tweak the design to suit your own idea's this is very important.
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Best to let Turbo lead here as he is a very smart guy with lots of experience in researching and testing TPU methods. He was there in the very beginning in 2006 when the videos first surfaced and has spent countless hours experimenting along these lines.
In other words, he knows what works and what doesn't and I'm sure he doesn't want to waste his time explaining to us why certain things won't work.
Let's not superimpose our ideas on Turbo's offering, rather, let's give him the floor and the time to explain his approach to the design.
Regards, Vortex1
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Let's not superimpose our ideas on Turbo's offering, rather, let's give him the floor and the time to explain his approach to the design.
Let's
What unusual event happens when a wire is pulsed like this (http://overunity.com/3605/theory-on-tpu-energy-scource/dlattach/attach/161144/)?
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Let's
What unusual event happens when a wire is pulsed like this (http://overunity.com/3605/theory-on-tpu-energy-scource/dlattach/attach/161144/)?
I don't see any pulsing of the wire. I see a DC condition and a continuous current flow without interruption. If there were at least switches and / or a timing diagram we could talk of pulsing.
I could theorize regarding what happens when the circuit connections to the batteries are first made, but then I wold have to qualify the sequence of the "makes" since there are two. Same for the sequence of "circuit breaks"
Or perhaps there is one battery connected at all times and the other is pulsed. So we have a few possible combinations, not to mention the pulsing repetition rates, pulse shapes and duty cycle involved.
I was hoping Turbo would expand his diagram with a further explanation rather than leave us to a myriad of guessing possibilities, hence what I wrote.
I have some ideas on the sketch, but they may not be correct, and are not clear to me at this time. So I choose to defer to Turbo to clarify, or someone that already knows for sure (not guessing) how this circuit applies to the TPU.
So, are you asking the question because you already know or because you would like someone to answer?
If you have already the understanding and experimental or theoretical proof of what Turbo is getting at, by all means, discuss or demonstrate.
Kind Regards, Vortex1
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Let's
What unusual event happens when a wire is pulsed like this (http://overunity.com/3605/theory-on-tpu-energy-scource/dlattach/attach/161144/)?
When both end coils are energized at the same time,the center coil will have double the voltage across it to that of each end coil-if the turn ratio of all three coils is the same.
It will also produce twice the current to that which is flowing through each end coil.
This of course depends on the pulsing/timing,and stuff like that
Brad
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I don't see any pulsing of the wire. I see a DC condition and a continuous current flow without interruption. If there were at least switches and / or a timing diagram we could talk of pulsing.
I could theorize regarding what happens when the circuit connections to the batteries are first made, but then I wold have to qualify the sequence of the "makes" since there are two. Same for the sequence of "circuit breaks"
Or perhaps there is one battery connected at all times and the other is pulsed. So we have a few possible combinations, not to mention the pulsing repetition rates, pulse shapes and duty cycle involved.
I was hoping Turbo would expand his diagram with a further explanation rather than leave us to a myriad of guessing possibilities, hence what I wrote.
I have some ideas on the sketch, but they may not be correct, and are not clear to me at this time. So I choose to defer to Turbo to clarify, or someone that already knows for sure (not guessing) how this circuit applies to the TPU.
So, are you asking the question because you already know or because you would like someone to answer?
If you have already the understanding and experimental or theoretical proof of what Turbo is getting at, by all means, discuss or demonstrate.
Kind Regards, Vortex1
It was only a quick sketch i drawn to show the multiple electron flow in a single wire.
I will attach some more images maybe it becomes a bit more clear.
In the AC example you will see continuous mixed induction, as you know the fields have to be moving to induce in wire, by frequency offset beat or center frequency's can be generated1
In the DC example, if current does not vary, there will be no induction because the fields are not in motion, high voltage phenomena will arise upon field collapse, and these can be 'crashed' into each other, and crashed into each other with a slight offset to create a slow or fast moving beat or center 'product' 2
This is relatively simple, the more difficult part lies in the understanding that if you have a piece of wire and a voltage source you can only generate one kick.
The effect is electrostatic in nature, and the wire acts like the plate of a capacitor and it will retain its charge so you will see just one kick upon first contact and after that no more kicks will arise.
The wire has said to become polarized.
To generate another kick, the polarity of the voltage source, has to be reversed.
Upon making contact with the reversed voltage source a stronger kick will be observed.
This is because the process is additive, the first contact incorporated a neutrally charged wire, whereas the second contact incorporated a opposed charged wire.
By alternating the voltage source more then one kicks can be generated but it will be a slow manual process if you do this by hand.
The solution lies in the proposed schematic.
One coil will impose a high voltage spike upon the center section, whilst the other coil can impose a reversed polarity spike upon the center section.
This makes it possible to set up high speed high voltage alternating switching that is needed to keep the kicks going.
The inductive kickback can be recovered and reused 3 but with one additional feature, namely that it generated a kick along the way.
I am sure i made some mistakes in the schematics but i hope you will be able to gain some vision.
Keep in mind that the original experiments were done with triode tubes where you would normally use one section of a double triode to generate only half of the output, and the other half for the other part or polarity of the output, and that your output transformer, or speaker voice coil, or electrostatic speaker, would be the center coil section, in which the two half reverse polarized waves will be combined.
The classic way of doing that does not have the floating points as shown in the images below, because the triode feeds off just one high voltage supply, and in that case it will only represent a classic (closed loop) transformer setup.
Steven ended up using the filament transformer in combination with the high voltage transformer to generate the effects.
The fact that he was able to discover it that way amazes me to this day.
I'm sure this all sounds like abracadabra at this stage but i will try to clarify all of these things soon.
For the setup it can be as simple as 3 relay coils in series.
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It was only a quick sketch i drawn to show the multiple electron flow in a single wire.
I will attach some more images maybe it becomes a bit more clear.
In the AC example you will see continuous mixed induction, as you know the fields have to be moving to induce in wire, by frequency offset beat or center frequency's can be generated1
In the DC example, if current does not vary, there will be no induction because the fields are not in motion, high voltage phenomena will arise upon field collapse, and these can be 'crashed' into each other, and crashed into each other with a slight offset to create a slow or fast moving beat or center 'product' 2
This is relatively simple, the more difficult part lies in the understanding that if you have a piece of wire and a voltage source you can only generate one kick.
The effect is electrostatic in nature, and the wire acts like the plate of a capacitor and it will retain its charge so you will see just one kick upon first contact and after that no more kicks will arise.
The wire has said to become polarized.
To generate another kick, the polarity of the voltage source, has to be reversed.
Upon making contact with the reversed voltage source a stronger kick will be observed.
This is because the process is additive, the first contact incorporated a neutrally charged wire, whereas the second contact incorporated a opposed charged wire.
By alternating the voltage source more then one kicks can be generated but it will be a slow manual process if you do this by hand.
The solution lies in the proposed schematic.
One coil will impose a high voltage spike upon the center section, whilst the other coil can impose a reversed polarity spike upon the center section.
This makes it possible to set up high speed high voltage alternating switching that is needed to keep the kicks going.
The inductive kickback can be recovered and reused 3 but with one additional feature, namely that it generated a kick along the way.
I am sure i made some mistakes in the schematics but i hope you will be able to gain some vision.
Keep in mind that the original experiments were done with triode tubes where you would normally use one section of a double triode to generate only half of the output, and the other half for the other part or polarity of the output, and that your output transformer, or speaker voice coil, or electrostatic speaker, would be the center coil section, in which the two half reverse polarized waves will be combined.
The classic way of doing that does not have the floating points as shown in the images below, because the triode feeds off just one high voltage supply, and in that case it will only represent a classic (closed loop) transformer setup.
Steven ended up using the filament transformer in combination with the high voltage transformer to generate the effects.
The fact that he was able to discover it that way amazes me to this day.
I'm sure this all sounds like abracadabra at this stage but i will try to clarify all of these things soon.
For the setup it can be as simple as 3 relay coils in series.
Dear Turbo
Thank you much for your input on this subject as it adds clarity. I see where the electrostatic or HV briefly touched to a wire indeed causes the wire to quickly move. I have observed this before, but did not experiment further.
Indeed a reverse electrostatic pulse will cause, as you say a stronger kick, and this is probably the cause of the vibration of the device.
I guess it goes without saying that the two drive circuits must be electrically isolated and not share a common ground.
What do you suppose the value was in winding single layer or stretched out layers (as seen in large SM TPU's) as opposed to the more compact spool or solenoid approach as you show?
Thank you for the additional insight, I will try some of this on the bench. All help is appreciated.
Tinman said:
When both end coils are energized at the same time,the center coil will have double the voltage across it to that of each end coil-if the turn ratio of all three coils is the same.
It will also produce twice the current to that which is flowing through each end coil.
This of course depends on the pulsing/timing,and stuff like that
Brad:
Will have to try your suggestion on the bench. Twice the voltage and twice the current is four times the power so should be easily OU. Have you already tested this? What were your results? Timing diagram?
Regards
Vortex1
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Dear Turbo
Thank you much for your input on this subject as it adds clarity. I see where the electrostatic or HV briefly touched to a wire indeed causes the wire to quickly move. I have observed this before, but did not experiment further.
Indeed a reverse electrostatic pulse will cause, as you say a stronger kick, and this is probably the cause of the vibration of the device.
I guess it goes without saying that the two drive circuits must be electrically isolated and not share a common ground.
Bingo !
It is the floating point configuration that makes all the difference.
Of course if these two voltage sources were to be connected, it would simply resemble one closed loop system in which resistance would kill any of the high voltage phenomena we are looking for.
What do you suppose the value was in winding single layer or stretched out layers (as seen in large SM TPU's) as opposed to the more compact spool or solenoid approach as you show?
Thank you for the additional insight, I will try some of this on the bench. All help is appreciated.
Well as far as i can see Steven mentioned there are many wires perpendicular to the main collector.
This indicates to me that he had wrapped a lot of single wire or kick wires into his design.
It is only logical to think that if you hit one strand for one kick, that if you hit a thousand strands, for a thousand kicks, i.e a thousand kicks combining into one big current kick, but that would only mean a larger capacitor plate, if you get what i am saying.
So there is something to this,
For all means if that is the case, he could have simply used foil with a large surface area and this does not seem to be the case, it seems these wires had to be very thin, and individually isolated.
Almost as if they should resemble a literal connection into the electric field if you know what that looks like.
I am not there yet and at this point there is no need to speculate we have been doing that for way too long so i just build on what i find in my experiments.
I can be very specific here,
The goal is to run a feedback mechanism that incorporates the natural medium, to observe an variating output.
This variating output resembles what Steven called the turbine effect and it does only alternate from-to around a center frequency in the early and simplistic stage, and will have to be put into rotation by means of duplicating the hardware in a way that i hope you know where i'm going.
When you think about it, it isn't logical to have a fixed setup that generates a variation so this shows that the system is interacting with something that is outside of the circuit.
So i follow this lead and try to maximize this event and there are many things that are overlooked even in classical circuits take for example a simple groundloop, i assume we all know what it is and what is sounds like, the 50 or 60 Hertz buzz we hear coming out of our speakerset.
But you can take this ELF frequency off any piece of isolated metal even in completely ungrounded and isolated amplifier setups it just sits there as the dominant signal that moves any free electron close to the surface of the valence band or conduction band of the metal i am not sure which one but those that are the loosest bound to the metal.
Nobody seems to talk about why that happens or what is causing it, and even if there are more signals present.
A ground loop suggests that the setup is connected to ground, but it is the ungrounded setup that seems to be of most interest.
At least that's what i am finding.
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Turbo
I see what you are saying regarding the individual small wires being different than a capacitor plate. I experimented with foils in some TPU designs but didn't see anything unusual.
The freedom of motion of a single or multiple fine wires would be different than a capacitor plate.
Thanks for your thoughts.
Regards
Vortex1
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I think I finally understand this now. It is actually a push-pull kind of setup. The first kick (push) collapses and is followed by an inductive kick-back (pull) that basically enters the system from the ambient medium, via the 3rd coil. This circuit will only work if the middle coil is left open, or to use Bearden's words, as long as you don't kill the dipole.
Bob
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I don't see any pulsing of the wire. I see a DC condition and a continuous current flow without interruption. If there were at least switches and / or a timing diagram we could talk of pulsing.
I could theorize regarding what happens when the circuit connections to the batteries are first made, but then I wold have to qualify the sequence of the "makes" since there are two. Same for the sequence of "circuit breaks"
I was assuming such sequence but indeed the diagram shows only DC.
I was hoping Turbo would expand his diagram with a further explanation rather than leave us to a myriad of guessing possibilities, hence what I wrote.
So was I
So, are you asking the question because you already know or because you would like someone to answer?
I'd like the author to answer how does the "kick" manifest.
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(http://overunity.com/3605/theory-on-tpu-energy-scource/dlattach/attach/161159/image//)
Two of the diodes need to be reversed, one on each side.
Now add 4 more , between 1-2 2-3 . Now you put caps across all diode groups.
artv
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Tinman said:
When both end coils are energized at the same time,the center coil will have double the voltage across it to that of each end coil-if the turn ratio of all three coils is the same.
It will also produce twice the current to that which is flowing through each end coil.
Brad:
Will have to try your suggestion on the bench. Twice the voltage and twice the current is four times the power so should be easily OU. Have you already tested this? What were your results? Timing diagram?
Regards
Vortex1
No,i have not done such tests,the answer was more a thought experiment,based around an ideal transformer,where there are no losses.
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Next step you create multiple electron flows in that coiled wire.
In stead of observing only the electrostatic effect, you now start to see also the magnetic effects.
The fields generated bump into each other this causes the vibrating sensation in just the one wire/coil.
Hi Turbo. Do you think it is some kind of a beat frequency that takes place and transforms all these electrostatics in to a useful current? Is it a build up of a low frequency standing wave when some of its harmonics are being used?
According to your opinion, is this middle section coil of your design the multistrand one that Steve M. has used as a core to his device?
Thanks
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Hi Turbo. Do you think it is some kind of a beat frequency that takes place and transforms all these electrostatics in to a useful current? Is it a build up of a low frequency standing wave when some of its harmonics are being used?
According to your opinion, is this middle section coil of your design the multistrand one that Steve M. has used as a core to his device?
Thanks
I don't think so.
I always believed the beat frequency was the product of the difference between the higher frequency's.
Also that the beat frequency was itself very low and resonated with the large magnetic waves he speaks of.
There is evidence that he used a feedback mechanism.
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@ turbo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwJUN2iNBIk
I,ve been looking at this TPU for a while now, I still err
on the side of caution and believe it,s a probable scam,
I am willing to entertain the fact that it is legit and
doing so, break down the contraption to it,s parts, the
first are the two saturable reactor "like" cores in the
mid of the large one, I have seen this type of setup
before in everyday items in the form of a ground fault
protection circuit, it,s the heart of the protection
circuit, when one side is interrupted by a short to
ground this induces an emf in the core and the circuit
is tripped. pics below saturable reactor, tpu, and
ground fault.
some music while you build your gear
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_B789lus-JE
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According to Steven, the lengths of the wires and diameter of the coilings are designed with respect to a harmonic of the Schumann/Earth frequency.
In theory, any regenerative impulse frequency harmonic will do.
For instance the 130Khz feedback signal of residential electricity.
The parallel windings not only drop the resistance and increase the current,
But the field around the wires is quantified, resulting in an increase in
Voltage and total power.
Without such considerations, many a transistor hath perished...
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lotsa people trying to find steven and all the money they invested...
http://www.angelfire.com/film/stevenmark0/
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lotsa people trying to find steven and all the money they invested...
http://www.angelfire.com/film/stevenmark0/
Hmm! why do you think he might have been a conman, did you do know he calmed to have showed
the device to NASA and ether sold it to them or tied to, who knows for sure. just because it was secret
doesn't mean it failed or was a Conn.
You might also might or might not be aware of a Seargent Gates replication that failed to take Stefan's
prize money, the guy reported destroying all his lab electronics in the process. witch is interesting if true.
AG
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AG
wrong Gate....
http://overunity.com/8586/agentgatess-tpu-setup-with-strange-wavehill-hump/#.Wh2Yx7mWzoY
I do miss Tony he is a good guy, was having health issues I do hope he is OK
I did get a reply a few years back ,but no real conversation just "hello" and well wishes [was around Christmas time .
maybe I'll send another hello this Christmas ?
Mags could probably summarize the important bits in the claim
as I recall a very quick pulse with an EXTREMELY rapid close on the back end
and very thin wire which was pushed to the Bursting point during running.
these two things were hard to maintain [rapid pulse, crazy fast close and pushing hair thin wire to ALMOST failure.
all pretty interesting and intuitive ideas for some ,....maybe Mags can Bump the thread and see
if Tony is still around ?
Chet
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Note to Belfior comment below
it was a Crisscross Fibonacci arrangement sort of like crosshatching on an engine cylinder
I do remember there being a form to wind on?
been a long time
Mags will probably remember the more specific attributes .
the crosshatching was said to be very important .
a few other old time members were helping at the time ,some I have not seen in a while.
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AG
wrong Gate....
http://overunity.com/8586/agentgatess-tpu-setup-with-strange-wavehill-hump/#.Wh2Yx7mWzoY
I do miss Tony he is a good guy, was having health issues I do hope he is OK
I did get a reply a few years back ,but no real conversation just "hello" and well wishes [was around Christmas time .
maybe I'll send another hello this Christmas ?
Mags could probably summarize the important bits in the claim
as I recall a very quick pulse with an EXTREMELY rapid close on the back end
and very thin wire which was pushed to the Bursting point during running.
these two things were hard to maintain [rapid pulse, crazy fast close and pushing hair thin wire to ALMOST failure.
all pretty interesting and intuitive ideas for some ,....maybe Mags can Bump the thread and see
if Tony is still around ?
Chet
Anybody got those images from Agentgates how he did the coils?
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Could somebody post something about avalanche rated power mosfets ? ::) Would it be useful ?
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Could somebody post something about avalanche rated power mosfets ? ::) Would it be useful ?
Yes (RS components) do them at a good price
they are SIC Schottky devices try part no 915-8899 diodes C4D08120A
and SIC mosfet pn 904-7345P Wolfspeed C2M1000170D N-channel SiC MOSFET, 5 A, 1700 V, 3-Pin TO-247 ( C2M1000170D )
just select similar items to see all range and or data sheet.
Dead cheep too where ever you are.
Allen
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Anybody got those images from Agentgates how he did the coils?
Yes they were at an angel Dont bother it didn't work losses ;D ;D :'( :-\ :-X
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Let's
What unusual event happens when a wire is pulsed like this (http://overunity.com/3605/theory-on-tpu-energy-scource/dlattach/attach/161144/)?
why does a black smith bang a red hot piece of metal with a hammer instead of just squashing it ?
because you know as well as we all should by now but we should not say on here.
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(http://overunity.com/3605/theory-on-tpu-energy-scource/dlattach/attach/161159/image//)
Two of the diodes need to be reversed, one on each side.
Now add 4 more , between 1-2 2-3 . Now you put caps across all diode groups.
artv
Yep. That creates a tuned charge pump like stage 2 of a stun gun.
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Just an idea, but the "little kicks" makes me think of the Wiegand Effect.
This is a steel wire which has been specially conditioned in two layers, such that there is an outer hard magnetic layer and an inner soft magnetic core.
When an external magnetic field magnetizes it, it undergoes a strange the sudden reversal, I can't explain the effect well because I don't understand it, but both cores reverse their magnetism and this induced an HV pulse.
This might not be easy to reproduce, it requires Cobalt Vandium Iron, CoVFe in the other layer (or, apparently does) but I felt it worthy of mentioning as a possible source of the "kicks" he sees, this would explain his use of steel/iron wire, and little kicks very much covers the description of the Wiegand Effect.
There might be other ways to get this effect though, it is interesting to note that Willi von[/font][/size] Unhru who collaborated with Hans Coler has a patent for heating Iron wire that makes it more conductive by heating it, maybe it's not more conductive but prone to demonstrating the Wiegand effect?[/font][/size]
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I am not sure if obtaining Wiegand wire is really plausible, and making it though obviously doable might be beyond easy access to most experimenters.
But, I am not sure who the effect wouldn't be OU, there seems to be no obvious Lenz effect in play here, it seems to me it should be OU, not that I know enough to speak with any confidence about it.