I plan to build a more serious device with more turns and a genuine commutator that reverse the polarity.

So NerzhDishual do you agree with what i say about having many contact points to harness back emf? i think some of the others earlier in this thread were taking that direction, it makes sence from what ive come to understand.

Quote from: seekingknowledge on November 24, 2007, 10:37:04 AM

Hey doing reasearch on how to build a simple electromagnet i learnt that you have your windings around your peace of iron (eg a nail) going in one direction and that makes the magnetic feild, if you have the windings going one way then back the other way then the two magnetic feilds  council each other out and your electromagnet wont work or wont work aswell,  how are you suppose to do the windings on the newman machine? 

We know for a fact that Joseph Newman got the inspiration for his machine from Jesus himself.  So I suggest you pray, and then all things will become clear.

That is just not at all helpful, i know newman bullshits about god and his demonstrations are very poor but your comments dont belong on this thread, this is the newman machine replica thread for people sharing knowledge on how to replicate, take it to another thread.

Only one direction like a normal electromagnet, because you need a magnetic field that works at right angle to the permanent magnet, which causes then a torque. If you don't know how this works and if you don't have any experiences, then you could watch this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qlw3C84a5zM
and reproduce it. I did it and it helped me a lot.

here is a nice commutator idea

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ur--xQcquNY

Well i built my newman machine but i didnt use the bearings the desighn changed cos the i would of had to had to have an axle 8mm in diameter and then things would of been out of scale as my two disk magnets are only about 35mm by about 5mm each so i just used a nail as my axle and blue tact to space them and sat my coil in the bottom part of a cardboard box ( a taco box to be exact lol) and used the nail to put two holes in either side and the axle rests inside them so i didnt need bearings.

Already had a couple of interesting results and we are just getting started, well first of all the coil i have been running it with ( i dont have a top coil yet ionly used one coil under the magnet on mine a bit like kmarinas86 and the new machine by chuck2na but a very round coil) was made from 1 100g spool of 0.8mm enamelled copper wire, last nite about 11 pm i got it to work and played round with it for a bit , the motor changes speed when you play round with the contact point as alot of you may already be aware, i took reading of the running battery (9 volt) after about an hour and it had droped from around 8.15 volts to about 7.05 volts the at about 1:30 i got it going again just before i went to bed as i stoped to play round with it abit.
 
Then this morning when i got up it had stoped, i started it again about twice for 15 minutes at a time so i figured it was the something wrong with the brush point so played around and couldnt get it to work so i put the other nine volt battery on it and it took off so i knew that i had ran the other battery down so i took a volt reading and it was something like 6.5 volts ( i apologise for the in acuracy of my mesurments as i wasnt writing things down but will set up to record all results very soon) then i stoped it and i went out then this afternoon i got back and twice i took reading off my dead battery, and it was like just over 7 volts then about 30 mins ago it was up to like 8 volts , that was just before i started typing this post right now as i have my machine on the desk infront of me and and i thought fuck is this
reading an illusion so i put it back on the machine and ran it for about 15 minutes while i was typing this letter, and in the last 10 or 15 mins i have been able to get it to run about 5 times for about 30 seconds or a minute.

So i wonder what the reading will be on it now , its right infront of me lets see,  and it is exactly 7 volts , but a minute later its gone up to 7.03 volts i shit you not and all in about 2 minutes , has anyone else had this before aswell?

well before i continue i will now take a break then come back and take ( accurate) mesurement and see where its at then we will maybe even reconnect it to the machine, ill give it about half an hour then i will continue typing, before i go outside for a smoke i would just like to briefly raise the subject of the newman machine running off volts not current because last nite i ran the motor for around 30 seconds off the two 9 volt transistor batteries and produced alot of speed but not nearly as much as the speed it produced when ran off the 6volt dolphine torch to which i have had for ages and used in the torch for a while, it was still working in  the torch but it only had between 4 aned 5 volts so the voltage was much less then the two transistor batteries so could some one enlighten me there, its been about 10 minutes
now since the last reading so ill be back shortly and we will all together find out more.

Remember you cant spell overunity without unity that why we must work with each other.

LOL  4 minutes, i started it again at 5:47 pm and stoped at 5:51 pm, then i just started it again for around 20 seconds and it isnt the contact points because i just tested it with the other battery and it works fine very interesting i think, sorry i have no videos to put up on youtube, and my little experiment hardly sounds convential i know but im just playing with what i have for now, im off to get a pizza then i will be back to play more.

Well i put the new battery on for about 5 seconds lol , as i said i have no bearings so with the new battery
+ the cap the axle moves to much so unfortunatly wont be using the new battery until i have bearings which may even mean having to scale up a little, so ive just been playing around with the other dead batteries ,now here is the thing if i leave it go a little while i can runn it with great speed for  but if i disconnect the capacitor it does nothing, if i disconnect the battery and leave the capacitor and spin it it does nothing but having them both hooked up it runs for several minutes at a time if i leave it a while and 20 to 30 seconds if only give it a rest for a minute or so, whats very strange is ( out of the two dead 9volt batteries) the only one it works with is the one that i was using when i first hooked up the cap it wont go with the other and if it does it almost does nothing.

but the other one just a little spin goes for a minute so if i had a pick up coil on top we could power a led for atleast on minute at a time on a dead battery. 

Playing around i have noticed a few things , im begining to understand more why we need a spark gap, let me give an example the closer you have the contact points the faster it goes the further away the slower it goes, now if you disconnect the capacitor and move the contact point away just enuf that it still connects to the battery but dosnt have enuf thrust to make it all the way around ( even if you spin it with your hand) it will start spining once you reconnect the capacitor and with good (not mega) speed too.

Now if i then disconnect the capacitor it will stop , so if the battery alone isnt enuf to make it spin then the power cant be comming from the battery it must be the back emf captured in the capacitor, and discovered that by accident cos my brush would get pushed out of place.

Also ive noticed that if i have the points closer and that motor running with alot of speed with the battery alone then the capacitor dosnt make as much of a difference as it does in the lower rpm range , so it must be more efficient in the lower rpm range, ive had some other things to do today so i havnt got around to winding the other coil and im going drinking soon so it mite get put off till the morning.

Once i have more stable points, bearings and a top coil ( we know i need small wire for that one definatly)  the we shall have a truely working real energy machine.

What happened to this topic? Why no-one post results? All go avay? How about your motor Cleranzer? This was topic I did follow long time, now no-one post here. Why?