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Re: water vortex generator
« Reply #15 on: March 30, 2007, 12:24:24 PM »
Why bother using frictionless bearings? If you're gonna have an output which is greater than the input, to extract useful energy out of it (more then 100% unity), the extra power will give a damn in any friction in a regular ball bearing.

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« Reply #16 on: March 30, 2007, 12:34:57 PM »
Another problem with water as fuel in an OU device, is that any OU devices theoretically will cool down when not loaded. The water will freeze, and spinning solid ice vortex is not useful to anything anyway.

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Re: water vortex generator
« Reply #17 on: March 30, 2007, 06:12:35 PM »
Why bother using frictionless bearings? If you're gonna have an output which is greater than the input, to extract useful energy out of it (more then 100% unity), the extra power will give a damn in any friction in a regular ball bearing.

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without the use of the frictionless bearings will you get more out than in?

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« Reply #18 on: March 30, 2007, 11:15:31 PM »
Why bother using frictionless bearings? If you're gonna have an output which is greater than the input, to extract useful energy out of it (more then 100% unity), the extra power will give a damn in any friction in a regular ball bearing.

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without the use of the frictionless bearings will you get more out than in?
Yes, definitely!

If the intent is to get anything more out than you put in, this "anything" would easily run with the friction from the ball bearings. If such motor are not able to handle this small loss, how can you imagine it will output any useful energy at all - even with frictionless bearing?
If you only go for a frictionless rotation, without having any plans to extract anything out of it, you can just make a spinning magnet float in a magnetic field inside a bottle of vacuum. It will spin "forever", but for no practical use.

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Re: water vortex generator
« Reply #19 on: March 31, 2007, 05:22:25 AM »
@vidar what is your intent? with your comments?


you must feel the need to try and prove everything wrong!



ps this was just a thought that i thought i would share

mabe i should just keep my thoughts to myself as you seam to sedjest

wheres your great world saveing invention


im not implying that any of my ideas are

but you seam to like to pick things apart to the max!!



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Re: water vortex generator
« Reply #20 on: March 31, 2007, 06:39:47 PM »
@vidar what is your intent? with your comments?


you must feel the need to try and prove everything wrong!



ps this was just a thought that i thought i would share

mabe i should just keep my thoughts to myself as you seam to sedjest

wheres your great world saveing invention


im not implying that any of my ideas are

but you seam to like to pick things apart to the max!!



william!!
William,

My intent is to make better understanding of what our goal are. I have no idea of any ones skills in mathematics, physics and so on, and I apologize if I make you, or anyone else here, sad.
However, if the ideas are never questioned, fragmented, picked apart, no matter who made them, or what the ideas are, one can probably never be able to move forward with new ideas, if the present idea does not seem to work. The problem with development is when one never can be able to see the limitations because of the goal.

There are so many times I have wanted SO BAD a device to work, and because I wanted it so much, I did never see the cause of why it didn't work. Very frustrating, but also very instructive.

So please don't let anything of my post offend you, or anyone else for that matter. Please go on with your ideas even if I question them, and pick them apart. Please see it as a possibility to move on with new ideas, or modify/change your existing ones.

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« Reply #21 on: April 01, 2007, 05:32:44 AM »
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Re: water vortex generator
« Reply #22 on: April 01, 2007, 02:28:18 PM »
@ rosphere

have you not done enough?


just leave me be for a bit


im not posting with your work anymore

so why post with mine

you dont want my input so i do not want yours !

and if you truly have an intrest in mine
post somthing that will help all of us

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« Reply #23 on: April 01, 2007, 06:06:04 PM »
To all of you guys:

Make up, and lets look forward.

Peace!

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« Reply #24 on: April 01, 2007, 08:30:05 PM »
i agree and we are working on that


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« Reply #25 on: April 30, 2007, 12:48:14 PM »
IS,
Thinking directly along the lines of a water vortex generator, I also wondered about this and had wondered where I could get an energy gain. I believe the answer to this question lies in considering an atmospheric portion of the device. In other words use the power of natural evaporation and convection for the "PUMP". That gives us a gain in potential energy by virtue of letting the water rise to an altitude above the ground as water vapor and then condensing and collecting it at altitude and returning to a floating rotor assembly. I think there are multiple ways to convert the potential energy of condensed water at altitude into kinetic energy of motion, compression, and etc. etc. Over the next year I plan on beginning my hurricane generator. Yep....I'm going to try and put a hurricane in jar...........so to speak...........Regards..........Loki.... ;D

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« Reply #26 on: April 30, 2007, 02:38:22 PM »
IS,
Thinking directly along the lines of a water vortex generator, I also wondered about this and had wondered where I could get an energy gain. I believe the answer to this question lies in considering an atmospheric portion of the device. In other words use the power of natural evaporation and convection for the "PUMP". That gives us a gain in potential energy by virtue of letting the water rise to an altitude above the ground as water vapor and then condensing and collecting it at altitude and returning to a floating rotor assembly. I think there are multiple ways to convert the potential energy of condensed water at altitude into kinetic energy of motion, compression, and etc. etc. Over the next year I plan on beginning my hurricane generator. Yep....I'm going to try and put a hurricane in jar...........so to speak...........Regards..........Loki.... ;D
Water power plants are doing exactly that. Using rivers to extract energy from it.

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« Reply #27 on: April 30, 2007, 04:32:59 PM »
Vidar.........Agreed,
But what good is that, aside from greedy individuals, if you don't have direct access to the river or stream or your government will not allow alteration of waterways and etc. etc. Yes, I know that this process is already fully functional in nature....nothing new there.........It is also proven, by mother nature, that a hurricane can be engineered in this environment, i.e Earth. When I am successful at sustaining this process in a controlled and contained environment I will deliver the volume of accelerated water necessary to generate power or at least augment the other atmospheric electrodynamic plans I have. Further I will accomplish this without having to be dependent on rivers, streams, lakes, the ocean, regulations and etc. Done correctly I believe this will work, probably the best, in a desert or tropical environment but I'll bet anywhere. I'm going to be working it!!!!!

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« Reply #28 on: May 06, 2007, 04:45:24 AM »
@ lorki agreed

 what if it ran on steam and you used a paribolic miror to focous the sun light to a spot to boil the water then turn the generator  or if it was alchol it would boil at a lower temp and still create the pressure to drive the cone there so many diffrent ways to end up with an overunity result in my opinion

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Re: water vortex generator
« Reply #29 on: March 14, 2014, 03:55:23 AM »
I have designed a water vortex electrical generator.  The newest design is called the Vortank and I have purchased Vortank.com to market it. Everyone thinks that the energy required to return water to the top of the tank is greater than that that can be generated.  I think otherwise especially if the power of a vortex is as great as they say it is. The Vortank design is still secret and I may get a patent on it. My earlier design is called the Electric Cans and I have posted it at my site ElectricCans.com  Please provide feedback  The design is in the public domain and can be used by anyone.  I don't have the money to build one right now but I will as soon as possible.

The most expensive part of a vortex design is the tank that holds the water.  In this design the cost is reduced greatly by the use of two garbage cans.  While you can't see the vortex it will be there working for you.  The equipment is held up by a two-tiered structure that is height independent. The water from the top tank flows into the turbine that is held up by the bottom shelf and stabilized by a Turbine Guide Ring.  Wheels for the flywheels run around a track that is at the bottom of the turbine.  The flywheels are connected to the generators by motor belts.  The water flows down into the bottom tank and is returned through the water return hose. And the cycle repeats itself...

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