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Re: Gear pump and magnets
« Reply #15 on: September 09, 2017, 11:09:50 PM »
I made a short video.
It does not measure anything, just showing the crancks on each rotor.


Both the inner and outer gear resist more one way than the other. Don't yet know how to interpret this simple test.


https://youtu.be/r9SBEiTe72g


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Re: Gear pump and magnets
« Reply #15 on: September 09, 2017, 11:09:50 PM »

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Re: Gear pump and magnets
« Reply #16 on: September 10, 2017, 03:25:39 AM »
 Is this distant freedom-e really satisfying you ?
http://overunity.com/17435/gear-pump-and-magnets/dlattach/attach/165171/
Play with "la 'FEMM'e",
instead your "aurora wheel" with a round wheel with 4 magnets between shaft and wheel outside forming a "cruise/Kreutz",
a.diagonal and b.diametral
use probably a multi-arms/legs ccw or cw swastika knowledge !

Have a fine Sunday
                            OCWL 

p.s.:            mater - matriz - matrix
 
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/mosaics?CC=DE&NR=1626565A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=4&date=19701029&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP
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more from Max Mueller Frieedrich
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I hope that you does not need this "neurophone-like" treatment :
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Re: Gear pump and magnets
« Reply #17 on: September 10, 2017, 11:24:16 AM »
http://azbusinesslink.com/category/27077.html
You have to become di-/bipolar in thinking,
seeing things/objects from outside and feeling from the object middle inside to get the right,later by optimization, near perfekt result.

         That is LOGOS,logere :beiwohnen,inne sein ( become virtual  the objekt 4/...dimensional)
                                                 EINS-SEIN

         To differ from : habere= to have and habitare= to live(in)   

Each programmer is doing this: The construction of an virtual "Habitat" for letters and numbers ,
and a 3d-c.a.d.-programm need such behaviour and mental manner.

                  inter-legere intel-legere inter-lego inter-lexi interlectum intelligente
                                  Einsicht, Verständnis,Illumination
                https://patents.google.com/patent/US6172941B1/en

You are well equipped with 4d-lab instruments and motivated : self-organize yourself
https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=xyz-koordinatensystem&qpvt=xyz-koordinatensystem

    "vidar",this Non-sense is about "Yourself" and humankind : NLP
                            Neuronal-Lingual-Programming
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuro-linguistic_programming
                   Who program(m)ed you in all your live to become how you think "you are: .." ?
                     
   The other google search links takes too much time to search through.
                   
                              Begin with an " I am ....." listage !   ( under stress ?  ;D   :-\ ;)   )
Then think/decide what you call "non-sense",sem sentido= neither concrete nor abstrakt ={ }
                                                   no sound/recall
 
                                                leere Menge(-n-Lehre)
                                     https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mengenlehre
                                     https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kybernetik

                   sensitive learning :
 http://web.archive.org/web/20071004041426/http://sensortime.com


I will leaving now your thread/theme but this points above are clearly for all threads and themes guilty and finally: Nobel-award,"asymmetry(is perfection,no end=endless)


https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=archimedes+hebel&qpvt=archimedes+hebel
                                    not only water related : the lever laws
   
                                                        energy R&B :TrueScale
https://www.bing.com/search?q=meta-c+dinnan+patent&PC=U316&FORM=CHROMN

 Have a good,from me no more disturbted, time and well success in your live-life
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Re: Gear pump and magnets
« Reply #18 on: September 10, 2017, 11:45:19 AM »
IancaIV, if you cannot contribute to the topic, please stop posting nonsense and links to something that has nothing to do with this topic.


Thanks.


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Re: Gear pump and magnets
« Reply #19 on: September 10, 2017, 10:12:46 PM »
Today the axle that holds the inner gear broke off. I was playing a little too hard.


I need to find ball bearings that have 13mm outer diameter that fits inside the inner gear. I have one, but need more to fill the hight of 12mm.
Then I will build a more solid construction with small ballbearings supporting the outer gear, by placing them outside it. I cannot come up with a better solution to make a smooth and controlled spin.


I also must grind away a tiny mm from the inner gear so it is more space between inner and outer gear.


Plan B is to use iron powder soaked in epoxy, that is filled inside 3D printed molds. I will search on ebay for fine iron powder.


Plan C is to use sintered iron powder cores I used to use for inductors in speaker crossovers. I have hundereds of them in two different sizes. Maybe those will do the trick.


I do not give up intill I have confirmed what causes the difference in counter torques ccw and cw.


To be continued.


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Re: Gear pump and magnets
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Re: Gear pump and magnets
« Reply #20 on: September 12, 2017, 08:45:47 AM »
I finally managed to make those gears go smoother. Grinded off a little bit of the teeth on the inner gear. Made it possible to attach a magnet on both sides of it. I can confirm that friction was the reason why it counterforced more one way than the other. The inner gear is repelled on one side and attract the other side, but it seems the teeth on it isn't magnetized as I want because the gear as a whole wants to move to the side without turning. This will cause the gear to stuck more one way than the other. Now I can't feel any obvious difference anymore.
I will continue to work with a similar design, but it appears to me (as I allways have suspected) that magnets are conservative, but making things is fun anyways :-)


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Re: Gear pump and magnets
« Reply #22 on: September 12, 2017, 10:32:25 PM »

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Ferdinand_Braun
During the development of radio, he also worked on wireless telegraphy. In 1897 Braun joined the line of wireless pioneers.[3][4] His major contributions were the introduction of a closed tuned circuit in the generating part of the transmitter, and its separation from the radiating part (the antenna) by means of inductive coupling, and later on the usage of crystals for receiving purposes. Wireless telegraphy claimed Dr. Braun's full attention in 1898, and for many years after that he applied himself almost exclusively to the task of solving its problems. Dr. Braun had written extensively on wireless subjects and was well known through his many contributions to the Electrician and other scientific journals.[5] In 1899, he would apply for the patents, Electro telegraphy by means of condensers and induction coils and Wireless electro transmission of signals over surfaces.[6]
Around 1898, he invented a crystal diode rectifier or cat's whisker diode. Pioneers working on wireless devices eventually came to a limit of distance they could cover. Connecting the antenna directly to the spark gap produced only a heavily damped pulse train. There were only a few cycles before oscillations ceased. Braun's circuit afforded a much longer sustained oscillation because the energy encountered less losses swinging between coil and Leyden Jars. And by means of inductive antenna coupling the radiator was better matched to the generator. The resultant stronger and less bandwidth consuming signals bridged a much longer distance.

Pioneer of the  :
 https://www.bing.com/search?q=time+crystal&PC=U316&FORM=CHROMN

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C._V._Raman
The Raman effect has effectively helped to check the actual problems of the symmetry – properties of molecules thus the problems concerning the nuclear-spin in the atomic physics

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satyendra_Nath_Bose
He is best known for his work on quantum mechanics in the early 1920s, providing the foundation for Bose–Einstein statistics and the theory of the Bose–Einstein condensate

magnet motor:
first "motor" : chrono-(-re-)logio,chronograph https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watch
                                mechanical,automatic,electric,Quartz watch

                              "Unruh" : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balance_wheel
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                                time: 1/100,10,1 second,minute,hour,day,week,moon phase,solar year
                                         https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A._Lange_%26_S%C3%B6hne
                                         GTC worldtime watch to Universal time
                                         https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Time
                                         all-time-kalendar https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpetual_calendar

                                         Zeit-Lupe
                                         Zeit-Raffer

  https://www.seikowatches.com/world/technology/kinetic/perpetual.html
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_quartz

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_transmission

                                                   a magnet motor :
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                                        http://www.keelynet.com/ohsako/ohsako.htm


                                        permanent/electro magnetic couple:
                                        http://portal.groupkos.com/index.php?title=Electromagnetic_Coils

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Re: Gear pump and magnets
« Reply #23 on: September 13, 2017, 01:24:27 AM »
lancaIV,

Why do you insist on polluting other peoples threads with stuff that has no connection whatsoever with the subject of the thread?  If you want to post a bunch of disconnected stuff why don't you start your own thread?  Then you can post all the stuff you want where it can be easily ignored by those of us that don't want to read about everything not connected to the subject of someone else's thread.

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Re: Gear pump and magnets
« Reply #24 on: September 13, 2017, 02:18:50 AM »
citfa,it is cause to get faith, to get trust
cause it is based by knowledge of highest degree(academics of science) and based by experience threw experiments and their repeat to become
physical and technical standart.

Did you read "Reply 7" ?: ignorance of basics and fundamentals of magnets their orientation and effect
Posts: 2466 not really a "newbie"

First construction then thinking about it ?

Or: learning by doing - it: at first virtual(simulation) prototype
                                      -seconds real prototype

Why do you not correct him by false understanding about the matter ?  f.e."magnets are conservativ-e"

Do you want that the forum-members and guests will stay in
"stone-age"-science-levelling ?

Finally: Low-Q has the wright right to correct me about wrong statements,your reply,from physics and technics standpoint is worthless ergo: for future progression "non grata" !
It is more like unwished: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pollution

My links:
                Gear pump and magnets Board: mechanic

Contribution to F=BIL like to find in industrial permanent magnets
                                  or bimetals
             and perpetal/permanent free energy motion devices
             as new concept or commercial product
 
           scientifical consense instead members nosense

Sincerely
             OCWL

p.s.:                   II.
                                 Low-Q
I will leaving now your thread/theme but this points above are clearly for all threads and themes guilty and finally: Nobel-award,"asymmetry(is perfection,no end=endless)

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« Last Edit: September 13, 2017, 08:44:23 AM by lancaIV »

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Re: Gear pump and magnets
« Reply #25 on: September 13, 2017, 08:52:18 AM »

Thanks for informative post. I thaught for a second that you was a spam-robot or something ;D
This quote looks (for me) more like a conversation than the other posts :)


Well, I have made it some what clear, that I do this impossible experiments to learn.
Magnets are conservative, but when an idea pops up, I need to build it to understand where the problems are hidden.
I find it very inspireing, educational to do so.


You're absolutely welcome to reply, but your topics about radios, biology or whatever, was just confusing, and it looked like nonsense to bias my topic into something different.


I have a couple more ideas to post and learn from. I think it is worth the time showing others my own experience.


Vidar

citfa,it is cause to get faith, to get trust
cause it is based by knowledge of highest degree(academics of science) and based by experience threw experiments and their repeat to become
physical and technical standart.

Did you read "Reply 7" ?: ignorance of basics and fundamentals of magnets their orientation and effect
Posts: 2466 not really a "newbie"

First construction then thinking about it ?

Or: learning by doing - it: at first virtual(simulation) prototype
                                      -seconds real prototype

Why do you not correct him by false understanding about the matter ?  f.e."magnets are conservativ-e"

Do you want that the forum-members and guests will stay in
"stone-age"-science-levelling ?

Finally: Low-Q has the wright right to correct me about wrong statements,your reply,from physics and technics standpoint is worthless ergo: for future progression "non grata" !

My links:
                Gear pump and magnets Board: mechanic

Contribution to F=BIL like to find in industrial permanent magnets
                                  or bimetals
             and perpetal/permanent free energy motion devices
             as new concept or commercial product
 
           scientifical consense instead members nosense

Sincerely
             OCWL

p.s.:                   II.
                                 Low-Q
I will leaving now your thread/theme but this points above are clearly for all threads and themes guilty and finally: Nobel-award,"asymmetry(is perfection,no end=endless)

https://www.google.pt/search?q=f%3Dbil&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b&gfe_rd=cr&dcr=0&ei=zoW4Wd3QJOas8weM0ragCQ

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Re: Gear pump and magnets
« Reply #26 on: September 13, 2017, 10:18:22 AM »
             Conversation about success and fail of i(m)-/material objects needs the strict https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conditioning
                            without the misuse of strictly "physics Terms- and Termination" in inflated vulgar= non conditionized manner
                                                        =personal definition without geral -professional(expertise:q.e.d.)-consense world-wide
                           

                                       overall theme:  gear pump and magnets Board : mechanic
                                       or                  :  Low-Q gear pump and magnet attempt

                               
                                      "magnets are conservative": magnets are a piece of material with a physical effect
                                     this physical effect is relatively - distance (to other non-/ferrit material)dependant-  time-constant (effect decay)     
                                     and material either ambiental temperature dependant   

                                    magnets to magnets positioning in a shaft wheel for "perpetuum motion" is one trial,
                                    to get out worthfull work gain the next,
                                    more expensive the prototyping phase and later the propably selling phase of the only-magnets device 
                                   in relationship to variable em/pm-concepts (who will/shall pay the R&D investment ?)
 
                                   only permanent magnets:
                                   maximal precision degree (magnets producer : up to 4000 different shapes,forms,effect orientation, et cet ...)

                                   small charge production costs (up to 10000% more expensive than mass production)
                                   = minimal construction freedom-e about time-/finance-budget
                                   handicap: fixed rotation- fixed output - fixed transmission gear

                                   altruistic device for the "museum of eco-nomical hoaxes" (german: personal "Liebhaberei")

                                   espacenet is the international archiv-e for thousands of such appointed/applied trials,success/fail independant
                                                                          un-(deemed to withdrawn)/granted
                                   https://worldwide.espacenet.com/advancedSearch?locale=en_EP
                                   entering with "magnet motor"

                                  nice "thermovoltaic/thermalnoise measuring instrument"   https://av.tib.eu/media/10881 for em and pm magnets


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Re: Gear pump and magnets
« Reply #27 on: September 13, 2017, 10:28:25 AM »
I will probably never succeed, and the prototype cost is next to zero ;)


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Re: Gear pump and magnets
« Reply #28 on: September 13, 2017, 10:37:38 AM »
Your experience and living costs up to date not including ::) ,your time spent :'( ,the 3D-print machine costs :o and R.O.I. not calculating 8) ,
using by near hand materials  ??? et cet ....

                           The NASA spent more than 1 Mio. Dollar for orbital-ink,the Sowjets took a lead-pencil: ingenious ?

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« Reply #29 on: September 13, 2017, 10:46:02 AM »
LOL ;D ;D

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