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### Author Topic: Mathematically proven Infinite energy machine based on balanced Mass  (Read 2125 times)

#### vikram_gupta11

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##### Re: Mathematically proven Infinite energy machine based on balanced Mass
« Reply #15 on: April 29, 2017, 06:27:45 AM »
How did you calculate the figure that a 10 watt motor will have to consume 4.9 joule energy?
10 watt motor will be not consumed energy to jump the masses as per your calculation.

If the mass is hitting with generator then the generator will produce 25 watt electricity with the  50%efficiency and if we take 70% efficiency of the generator then it will produce 35 watt and overall electricity output will be 70 watt by both generators as it is not necessary that the efficiency will be only 50 % of these generators.

You also know that to turn this seesaw there will be need of very less energy even I can turn it with the help of my finger tip or with my breathe so to jump the mass there will be need of very less energy.I have used 10 watt motor input to understand the concept and it is not necessary that the ball will jump up to only 5 centimeter .The balls can jump up to 10 to 20 centimeter if we use 10 watt or 10 newton force as a input .   F=ma will not work here as you think as masses are in balanced position .

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##### Re: Mathematically proven Infinite energy machine based on balanced Mass
« Reply #15 on: April 29, 2017, 06:27:45 AM »

#### citfta

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##### Re: Mathematically proven Infinite energy machine based on balanced Mass
« Reply #16 on: April 29, 2017, 11:52:07 AM »
How did you calculate the figure that a 10 watt motor will have to consume 4.9 joule energy?
10 watt motor will be not consumed energy to jump the masses as per your calculation.

If the mass is hitting with generator then the generator will produce 25 watt electricity with the  50%efficiency and if we take 70% efficiency of the generator then it will produce 35 watt and overall electricity output will be 70 watt by both generators as it is not necessary that the efficiency will be only 50 % of these generators.

You also know that to turn this seesaw there will be need of very less energy even I can turn it with the help of my finger tip or with my breathe so to jump the mass there will be need of very less energy.I have used 10 watt motor input to understand the concept and it is not necessary that the ball will jump up to only 5 centimeter .The balls can jump up to 10 to 20 centimeter if we use 10 watt or 10 newton force as a input .   F=ma will not work here as you think as masses are in balanced position .

The part I highlighted is only one of your many mistaken ideas.  It always takes force to move a mass.  It doesn't make any difference if the mass is balanced you still have to overcome the inertia of the mass.  And that takes force which you do not seem to understand.

Carroll

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##### Re: Mathematically proven Infinite energy machine based on balanced Mass
« Reply #16 on: April 29, 2017, 11:52:07 AM »

#### webby1

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##### Re: Mathematically proven Infinite energy machine based on balanced Mass
« Reply #17 on: April 29, 2017, 02:37:51 PM »
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watt

So if you have a 50W generator,, how long does it run,, how many seconds,, with each mass fall?

How long, as in how many seconds, does the input motor run to make that one mass jump one time?

F=ma is used,,  especially with this system since you need to allow the mass to "jump" and separate from the lever and then reverse the direction of the lever.

If you are correct the mass will be able to "jump" up and off of a table,, can it?

#### webby1

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##### Re: Mathematically proven Infinite energy machine based on balanced Mass
« Reply #18 on: April 29, 2017, 03:32:57 PM »
Why don't you get 2 friends and a bathroom scale and go to a park that has a see-saw,,, then you can use the see-saw and the scale to see just how hard a person needs to push over what distance so that when the see-saw stops moving they jump up off of the seat by 5cm?

The person doing the "pushing" with there feet on the scale will need to hold themselves securely to the see-saw while they are pushing,, then before the see-saw stops they can let go of the see-saw.

2 100kg people and a push distance of 1m to make the person jump up from the see-saw 5cm,, the scale will show a reading of ??

Do the math before hand,, this way you know what to expect,, or look for.

If the person doing the pushing is actually holding themselves firmly to the see-saw I bet the scale will sow the force in kg for 200kg not 100kg.

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##### Re: Mathematically proven Infinite energy machine based on balanced Mass
« Reply #18 on: April 29, 2017, 03:32:57 PM »

#### vikram_gupta11

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##### Re: Mathematically proven Infinite energy machine based on balanced Mass
« Reply #19 on: May 06, 2017, 01:14:39 PM »
Dear Sir,
Thank you and my request to you consider this one also.

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##### Re: Mathematically proven Infinite energy machine based on balanced Mass
« Reply #19 on: May 06, 2017, 01:14:39 PM »