Mark E
I know sometimes we have problems with OUR computers ,maybe you can't read the opening post

Here I pulled it out for you too read
Rick
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This is not a story-telling event but a live demonstration of overunity systems, some of which have never been shown before.

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and being aware of certain events which have been mentioned about suppression lately
I'm plenty interested and don't need any advice or seek any advice from your self.
Nor do we need a wet nurse to interpret Overunity

seems you try way way way to hard to press peoples buttons and get them to say things outside their comfort zone.
here it is again for your reading pleasure
Rick
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This is not a story-telling event but a live demonstration of overunity systems, some of which have never been shown before.

has it sunk in yet ??

So what short of an actual working overunity device will be acceptable to you in exchange for your admission fee?  When they don't show you one, will you ask for your money back?  Or is there something less that will satisfy you?

I have never been with a non-profit tax exempt affiliate networking site or organization. More assumptions.

You're not involved with the energeticforum, which is a non-profit tax exempt affiliate networking site?  If not, then my sincerest apologies.


Gravock

Good, hope to see you or associates there.

Rick

Rick
we have associates close to your August event who are involved in similar research that may be able to attend ,I will be discussing this with them and "finance" to see if its in OUR budget, I truly don't see any issues at this time ,however to soon to say for sure.
Truly looking forward to finding out more !!
respectfully
ChetKremens@gmail.com

I've said enough about charlatans and exposed so many of them. I'm tired of following what those kind of people are doing. I haven't been really watching for a few years as I have been busy doing my own things. I'm not associated with any other group or people, especially the Bedini group. I'm just working with Michael Stroh these days who is a brilliant man I have so much to learn from. This is not a money-making thing as both of us and our companies have only losses from these meetings. We are doing this for education purposes. It is fun and exciting. The people have been satisfied so far at the meetings. They have been amazed and have never seen these demonstrations before. I don't see why there is so much criticism in the USA from people like MarkE about selling tickets. People are not under pressure to come. And we have a right to charge for our expenses. It costs money to rent a building, travel, make everything, have supplies and equipment. Why is it that when people think of free energy they expect you to give them free parts, free shows, free information??? What do you want, my wallet?? I mean really. If you are not interested then you don't need to come. If you don't think we have anything then so what? But the intensity of the attacks just show that people have an agenda to try and disprove something and discourage others from believing anything. Maybe it is innocent and a reaction to dealing with charlatans in the past, or from a prejudiced set of assumptions taught in school, or maybe it is a group of people set out to stop this kind of technology from being discovered by the general population. Whatever the case, we are not crossing any lines by what we are doing and have 100 more technologies to bring out in the future. We are very excited by our research and will share it all in due time. For now we bring out some new related things every 6 months or so.

It is neither surprising nor encouraging that Mr. Freidrich declines to specify what he means by "overunity systems".  There are many people who want to tinker aroud with motors or other gadgets hoping to make a discovery.  If they enjoy themselves good.  If they learn something then that's better.  It's the charlatans who make false claims to sell media and admission tickets who I object to.  Mr. Friedrich has declined to distinguish himself from such people.  Perhaps he will reconsider.

I've said enough about charlatans and exposed so many of them. I'm tired of following what those kind of people are doing. I haven't been really watching for a few years as I have been busy doing my own things. I'm not associated with any other group or people, especially the Bedini group. I'm just working with Michael Stroh these days who is a brilliant man I have so much to learn from. This is not a money-making thing as both of us and our companies have only losses from these meetings. We are doing this for education purposes. It is fun and exciting. The people have been satisfied so far at the meetings. They have been amazed and have never seen these demonstrations before. I don't see why there is so much criticism in the USA from people like MarkE about selling tickets. People are not under pressure to come. And we have a right to charge for our expenses. It costs money to rent a building, travel, make everything, have supplies and equipment. Why is it that when people think of free energy they expect you to give them free parts, free shows, free information??? What do you want, my wallet?? I mean really. If you are not interested then you don't need to come. If you don't think we have anything then so what? But the intensity of the attacks just show that people have an agenda to try and disprove something and discourage others from believing anything. Maybe it is innocent and a reaction to dealing with charlatans in the past, or from a prejudiced set of assumptions taught in school, or maybe it is a group of people set out to stop this kind of technology from being discovered by the general population. Whatever the case, we are not crossing any lines by what we are doing and have 100 more technologies to bring out in the future. We are very excited by our research and will share it all in due time. For now we bring out some new related things every 6 months or so.

Sell all the tickets you want.  If you don't want to run afoul of the fraud statutes make sure that what you advertise is what you deliver.  I have asked you to be specific about what you are promising so that no one suffers from an unfortunate misunderstanding.

Who makes you some judge of everyone or everything?? Who is going to suffer? Why are you so playing the victim mentality?? People seriously interested in coming really have no such wonder. All you guys want is a free lunch. You want the convention to be public so you don't have to pay. You want me to prove things to you. I don't need to prove anything to anyone. My customers have long been almost the only advertisement I have ever had. They have asked for meetings and workshops so we make them available. I reach out to these forums to let people know that we are having meetings. Then you Trolls come out like mosquitoes to bite and bleed me as if I'm trying to hurt you and you are the superhero engineer that is going to save the poor people from the bad guys. I said we have overunity machines. That we are producing several different kinds of energy, including zero point. You probably have never seen a zero point energy demonstration so that would confuse you no matter what meter you had. We are demonstrating our products and future products along with a lot of information relating to this technology. More details are not necessary anymore than doing some public video conference.

You make the false claim that I have demanded proof from you.  I have not.  Go ahead and find anywhere where I have made such a demand.  You cannot do so.  I have asked you to make clear what it is that you promise to show attendees.  I find it fascinating that you get so worked up by such straightforward questions.

I find I fastenating that you don't understand what over unity means on an over unity forum after making 100000 posts in 3 weeks on the subject

Where did you ever get the idea that I don't understand a term when I have explicitly described it?  What matters is what Mr. Friedrich and his attendees understand the term to mean.  If they have disparate ideas about it, then some may be quite disappointed and unhappy by what they see.  Some may even seek recourse.  Mr. Friedrich can short circuit such unpleasantries by clearly communicating what he means when he promises to show "overunity systems".  This is especially true since the odds against him having anything that meets the common usage of "over unity" are enormous.

I also understand that people who get to close to oUuget visits and knocks on the door

That's funny because I have had, and know of others who have had circuits that are as close to overunity as anyone has ever gotten and the only knocks I know of have been: package deliveries, the occasional walk up solicitation, and various folks wanting to pitch their religious beliefs.  I don't seem to have computer failures or other problems.  Now, why do you think that is?

So maybe you should stop playing with peoples lives!!!!

I am afraid you will need to be more specific with what it is you allege I am doing that is: "playing with peoples (sic) lives!!!!".  Please connect your allegation to my efforts to persuade Mr. Friedrich to align what he advertises with what he will actually deliver.

Mark E
You make a living hiring out to investors to investigate OU claims ,

Really?  Where did you get that idea?

Whilst you were in the middle of an unpayed investigation here with
TinMan at this forum [a first of its kind affair] a few weeks ago and it seemed to be apparent that TinMan had something which was
"interesting" a third party dropped a dime on TinMan and he can no longer pursue his lifes ambition.

Again: Really?  I am quite unaware that there is anything that prevents anyone from experimenting with appliance motors as tinman was and still appears to be doing.

are you standing there with Dimes in your pocket asking Rick what OU means ??

I have already explained to you that I am asking Rick Freidrich what he is claiming he means by "overunity systems".  We don't want any attendees to be disappointed due to a misunderstanding between what they think they will see and what they will actually see.

just some Musings.....or Pretend Play...

childish isn't it ??

and yes
This is all so Hilarious when they're not knocking on Your door isn't it Mark E or messing with YOUR life...

Who are "they"?

why don't you go beat the cat Or pull some legs offa spiders or whatever it is you do when your not haunting this forum ??

How is asking Mr. Freidrich to clearly state what his attendees will see akin to torturing cats or insects?

OH that's right this seems to be a 24/7 affair for you..
you should ask Stefan to modify your History [times of day you spend here]
it actually looks like you never really leave here..

how do you get your Dimes then ??

Why do you care?