apecore:  Are you going to try to guess at what might be the right outcome, without trying to replicate anything yourself?
   No one can tell you what is the right way of doing it is, as no one knows for sure. 
   There are already many videos explaining what should happen. That is basically all there is. And a lot of posts from us here, but no working replications.

No i dont want to guess about what might be right..... With all respect to all those guys who spend lots of time and money in replicating but that is what people have done so far.

When you built a bike,....  it will work in the end,...  because you can see why its working or not.
In this case our "bike" only work if a) the design is correct and complete. b) we do the correct tunings.
Unfortenatly "a" must be in place before "b" can be performed.

We don't know or....  we do know that a) is not correct/complete.
So we start guessing.


I think it is effective to challenge all the steps starting at the beginning of the design.
Many people on this forum who worked many years on replicating do have many experience and a lot of knowledge about what is happening during tests and what possible gaps might be.

Also there are some very smart guys here who can imaging from there background how the design should act in certain steps, anticipaiting on the test results/ design reviews.

First mayor question(s) we can ask in this forum is:

"Why do we get no OU?"
What is the deviation why we don't get OU?


When starting systematic evaluate every possible reason and relate this to our concept(replication) ,...  we get more and more inside knowledge and also we will be able to come further.

The solution will not fall out of the sky, because there is nothing in the sky what will help us coming futher.
It is sad when do nothing,... we already produced 971 pages of posts,.......it would be all for nothing.
To quit is something what is not in our nature (at least not in mine and as i already know not in yours either Nickz),.... living with the idea that it perhaps.........

So when will i start to replicate?
In my opinion after/ during the evaluation we need to perform

How long will take this place?
When we do it efficient ,...max 29 pages,....  so 1000 is the milestone.

What is the goal?
To get some clearance about the concept,....  with or without OU.


At least we can say then we tried,......  this is always better then let it past away.

So lets start simple but lets do it together?

I hope i can contibute in delivering progress to all of those who are interested in making progress....  thats my goal.

regards


 

I very much doubt that there is much enthusiasm to start over again. However, hopefully you will be able to deliver progress to rekindle the flame.

It is more summer and holidays time than that. And people doing more experiments than talking in the recent days...

  quote from apecore:
No i dont want to guess about what might be right..... With all respect to all those guys who spend lots of time and money in replicating but that is what people have done so fFirst mayor question(s) we can ask in this forum is:

"Why do we get no OU?"
What is the deviation why we don't get OU?
                                                   

   @apecore:
   I've already answered that not one person has actually made an exact replication.  And not one person here knows the exact reasons why their devices don't work in practice as they should.  So, don't ask the blind, to see...
  I think that there are several people that know the about the how and why a self runner device like what we are working on, should work. And just where the extra energy comes from, etz...  But, just have not been able to find the right and correct working frequencies for it to do so, as yet. 

   Your questions have all been asked, many many times...  if you bother to check all the previous posts.
No one is going to start over,  by continuing to just talk about it.  You came in late into the game, and have no idea yet what tests and replications have already been done. And what their test results were, and why they had such results.
   
   I'm far from being done with this project. No offense, but you should get some basic idea of what is going on here, before suggesting starting over with the same questions, without any hands-on participation in the project.
 
   
   @All: Last night I managed to get the yoke's induction circuit running on just 12v, 2 amps. And the Kacher running from the rectified output from the yoke's secondary coil. So, Both circuits running from just the same 24w input that is provided to my ZVS induction circuit, by a 12v wall adapter.
When I get it further along I'll make another video.

  Yes, and because no one has actually built a true replication, with the already provided for information, schematics, or videos. But only just their not working versions of it. And, then gave up... saying "fake",  it doesn't work,  etz...
 

We do not know the exact reasons why our devices do not work because we are not given sufficient information to know if we have actually built and tuned them as an exact replication. Until we get exact and fully detailed information on a device that genuinely performs exactly as claimed, then we are very unlikely to be lucky enough to build an exact replication of it. If we learnt the exact reasons as to why our devices do not work, then it would be quite possible and likely that we would get them to work exactly as demonstrated.

Hoppy,
You are 100% right.

Nickz,
Do we want a working device or not?
If yes,......So what we gonna do.

I have a lot of positive energy but i need positive people.
The fact i come in to late is rather a excuse then take it as a oppertunity.

I m fine......but i wanna help .... so take your advantage and lets make that thing go to work.

Hi apecore,

I've been following these wretched threads since they were formed and quickly came to the conclusion that the majority of demonstrators posting claimed self-runners were either faking or had been successful but for reasons only known to them had no intention to genuinely help others towards success, thus the lack of credible and detailed info necessary to attempt replication. If and when I see signs that genuine and credible technical information is being open sourced, then and only then will I return to the bench

Why don ' t tale the initiative and try to find out what to do
There is enough resource on the forum to perform.
You do have the nowledge how a device should perform..... i m for sure... reading the past threads.

Lets take the front side and stop waiting for the miracle.

And you Wesley with his Lithuanian friends.
Although they speak Russian, but I did not understand,
What did they get?
Is There OU or not.
Can you say.

Hi guyz

This is Vasmus schematic of his device, One of the versions.
Something for the forum and many want to try it well here goes.
but I will say there is one thing missing, and is not connected to sumator.
what is it ?