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Author Topic: who made the laws of thermodynamics  (Read 24308 times)

brian334

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who made the laws of thermodynamics
« on: December 10, 2010, 09:31:28 PM »
My question is who made the laws of thermodynamics?
Did the U.S. congress make these laws?
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TinselKoala

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Re: who made the laws of thermodynamics
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2010, 01:34:02 AM »
Yep, and if you break them you will go to jail.
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermodynamics
and scroll down to "history".
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getterdone

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Re: who made the laws of thermodynamics
« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2011, 06:14:34 PM »
  Hi Brien, my understanding of the laws of thermodynamics is that they were created as an axiom, which basicly means that if nobody has been able to prove it wrong then it must be true. These days it's though in schools as a theorem which means it's a fact.

  Albert Einstein once said that if the facts don't fit your theory ,then change the facts.
 I think that that is what we're trying to do with gravity powered devices
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neptune

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Re: who made the laws of thermodynamics
« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2011, 09:48:36 PM »
The Laws of Thermodynamics were written by Lord Kelvin . Oh wait a moment , wasnt that the same guy who wrote a mathematical proof that man would never fly?
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WilbyInebriated

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Re: who made the laws of thermodynamics
« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2011, 12:14:31 AM »
Quote from: neptune on February 13, 2011, 09:48:36 PM
The Laws of Thermodynamics were written by Lord Kelvin . Oh wait a moment , wasnt that the same guy who wrote a mathematical proof that man would never fly?
good point but kelvin just wrote down what others before him had said... see sadi carnot and his father, they were years ahead of rudolph clausius and william thomson (baron kelvin).

as an aside, it is interesting, maybe even telling that all this was based upon assuming that heat was a gas that could be neither created nor destroyed...  ;)
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Omnibus

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Re: who made the laws of thermodynamics
« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2011, 12:20:08 AM »
Quote from: getterdone on February 13, 2011, 06:14:34 PM
  Hi Brien, my understanding of the laws of thermodynamics is that they were created as an axiom, which basicly means that if nobody has been able to prove it wrong then it must be true. These days it's though in schools as a theorem which means it's a fact.

  Albert Einstein once said that if the facts don't fit your theory ,then change the facts.
 I think that that is what we're trying to do with gravity powered devices

Never mind what Einstein said. Someone like Einstein who can put forth a travesty of science such as Einstein's "theory" of relativity cannot be an authority to be listened to.

Otherwise, you're quite right about the laws of thermodynamics. Astonishingly, the very standard theory of mechanics is in violation of these laws, as I have shown. You don't even need to carry out experiments to prove that they are not of generala validity, although there's also ample experimental evidence already that, say, CoE can be violated.
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getterdone

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Re: who made the laws of thermodynamics
« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2011, 10:02:18 PM »
  Einstein's theory of relativity a travesty?

  Einsteins theory explained

 " Your only as old as the women you feel ", if you think about it long enough, it'll all make sense ;D
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Omnibus

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Re: who made the laws of thermodynamics
« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2011, 11:39:34 PM »
Quote from: getterdone on February 20, 2011, 10:02:18 PM
  Einstein's theory of relativity a travesty?

  Einsteins theory explained

 " Your only as old as the women you feel ", if you think about it long enough, it'll all make sense ;D

Is that all you can say in defense of your feeling that Einstein's "theory" of relativity is not travesty of science? Try talking about something else and drop invovling yourself in something you have no clue about.
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spinn_MP

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Re: who made the laws of thermodynamics
« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2011, 12:38:31 PM »
Quote from: Omnibus on February 20, 2011, 11:39:34 PM
Is that all you can say in defense of your feeling that Einstein's "theory" of relativity is not travesty of science? Try talking about something else and drop invovling yourself in something you have no clue about.

Ok, if Mr. OmniBot has something to say...
Let's all listen to that Lying Bastard's explanations.

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spinn_MP

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Re: who made the laws of thermodynamics
« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2011, 01:54:35 PM »
Quote from: neptune on February 13, 2011, 09:48:36 PM
The Laws of Thermodynamics were written by Lord Kelvin . Oh wait a moment , wasnt that the same guy who wrote a mathematical proof that man would never fly?

Lol!

Please, check out the History....
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Omnibus

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Re: who made the laws of thermodynamics
« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2011, 03:50:37 PM »
Where is the moderator to ban the spammer @spinn_MP?
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spinn_MP

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Re: who made the laws of thermodynamics
« Reply #11 on: February 21, 2011, 03:53:27 PM »
Quote from: Omnibus on February 21, 2011, 03:50:37 PM
Where is the moderator to ban @spinn_MP?
Rotfl..
Yep, it's The Lying Bastard himself...

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Omnibus

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Re: who made the laws of thermodynamics
« Reply #12 on: February 21, 2011, 04:01:56 PM »
Where is the moderator to ban the spammer @spinn_MP?
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spinn_MP

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Re: who made the laws of thermodynamics
« Reply #13 on: February 21, 2011, 04:07:55 PM »
Where's the Moderator to ban the notorious lying bastard, OmniBot?
Sorry, Omnibus..?
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Omnibus

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Re: who made the laws of thermodynamics
« Reply #14 on: February 21, 2011, 04:14:29 PM »
Where is the moderator to ban the spammer @spinn_MP?
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