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Author Topic: How does Perendev's motor work?  (Read 72330 times)

Offline mike-ao

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Re: How does Perendev's motor work?
« Reply #15 on: November 01, 2008, 05:00:35 PM »
Sure, the movies can be seen from my web site (youtube based) http://www.dynamaticmotors.com.

hi, what's about the third video. it says not anymore available?

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Re: How does Perendev's motor work?
« Reply #15 on: November 01, 2008, 05:00:35 PM »

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Re: How does Perendev's motor work?
« Reply #16 on: November 01, 2008, 09:03:03 PM »
hi, what's about the third video. it says not anymore available?

Yes, that video I took down because it is a similar style motor that is older and ran slower on about 1.44 watts.  It turned about 300-400 rpm.  It was a single rotor version.  It had no electronic circuits except a relay which was not needed.

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Re: How does Perendev's motor work?
« Reply #17 on: November 13, 2008, 04:13:24 AM »
You need magnet shield to make it work at the best! For magnet shielding you can use MuMetal (but not usual MuMetal)
There are only some companies who make these next-gen MuMetals
you can bay it here: http://www.lessemf.com/mag-shld.html#274 - > Read before this: http://www.lessemf.com/faq-shie.html
Remember it is not 100% Magnet shielding, but gives very great results :)

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Re: How does Perendev's motor work?
« Reply #17 on: November 13, 2008, 04:13:24 AM »
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Offline jimhitt

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Re: How does Perendev's motor work?
« Reply #18 on: December 23, 2008, 01:08:22 AM »
Why is the conservation of energy such a holy grail?  And, why is so much of the comment in a free energy forum designed to maintain the status quo and dependence on fossil fuels?  Howard Johnson patented a magnet motor in the 1980's that worked.  Despite claims to being based on magnetic repulsion, the Parendev likely uses north and south pole similarly on the sides of the the upper stator magnets, not the ends of the magnets. It uses a combination of attraction and repulsion.  Attraction as the magnets approach the north pole on the end of the lower magnet then repulsion as the magnet recedes from the the north pole. 

Shielding under the upper magnet to reduce cogging, and around the sides of the lower to concentrate the magnetic field. The reason for 3 rotors is to offset each by the width of one magnet to create a series where there is always one magnet attracting  the stator, one magnet repelling the stator while the third is cogging.  While I have not completed a prototype, I made a simple rail using this magnet configuration, and it works as advertised.  The world is not flat.  I think of magnet motors as being like a magnetic windmill. 

We don't understand magnets, but they produce energy and do work.  If you don't think so get a strong magnet and hang a 20 pound  piece of metal from it for a month.  If you don't think it did any work, you hold up the twenty pounds for the next month and tell me it wasn't any work.  Horsepucky.   There is overunity.  For example, I made a magnetic disk heater.  It appears to produce roughly 3.5 times more heat than can be accounted for by electricity input.  And yes, I believe that it could be configured to produce enough steam to power a turbine to run itself.  I have not done that yet, however.  But, give me time, I've just been messing around with this stuff for a few months.   In my opinion, magnetic energy can be harnessed to produce power.  Rather than blow smoke and theories get off your duff and experiment a little you might learn something.  Magnets are cheap.

As for power, my guess is that a Perendev like device would be similar to an electric motor and have quite a lot of torque. See the simple diagram below, then make one, they are very simple. There, now send me $550 million.  That's reportedly what Mike Brady wanted for his "secret".  Ooops, secret's out, consider this an open source document to verify my discovery.  You have my permission to make as many as you want.  Consider this an open source patent to protect the technology from suppression.

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Everyone saying this technology doesn't works are oil company lackies or idiots.  Just because some "expert" says something doesn't make it so.  Think and observe for yourself, that's what your head is for.  Try it before you're so certain it's wrong.  If I seem a bit huffy it's because I'm just tired of hearing "It won't work" from people who haven't even attempted anything but spreading discouragement.
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Re: How does Perendev's motor work?
« Reply #19 on: December 23, 2008, 03:38:58 AM »
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Offline wizardofmars

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Re: How does Perendev's motor work?
« Reply #20 on: December 23, 2008, 04:36:32 AM »
Has anyone here figured out how Perendev's PMM (supposedly) works?

Yes. Like all the perpetual motion scam artists before him, Brady finds one gullible investor after another, always just a few months away from delivering anything. Since there is almost a limitless supply of suckers, there is a perpetual motion of cash into his bank account from his victims. According to PES Brady fleeced four million Euro's from suckers in Switzerland.

Here's a good overview of the Perendev pitch for investors from nearly five years ago.

http://www.freeenergynews.com/Directory/Perendev/March2004_Solicitation/index.html

Even Sterling Allan doesn't believe in Perendev anymore, and he worked with him for years and apparently invested money. So you know it's got to be a fraud, since Sterling appears to believes anything.

Some choice quotes from http://www.freeenergynews.com/Directory/Perendev/MagneticMotor/Sterling_First-Hand/

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I traveled to Johannesburg in Dec. 2002 to meet with Brady in his home for five days, and see his magnet motor, which at the time had just come from the machinist and had not been assembled to work yet. 

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On Feb 17, 2004, Brady said he was coming to the U.S. to demo his 20 kW unit, and that he wanted me to pull together an auction for him to sell the technology outright.  "Minimum bid: $500,000,000 USD in reserve."

I responded that I thought the amount was far too high, and frankly told him I thought he was getting greedy.  I tried to talk him out of this, but he would not be swayed.

At that point, I and the tentative company I had assembled decided that we no longer wished to pursue a manufacturing/marketing license arrangement of any kind with Brady.  Not only was his greed an issue, but integrity as well, as his promises to do this or that hardly ever materialized.  Though he promised dozens of times to send us the patent information for his device, he never in 2 years delivered on that promise.  Promises of sending a video, given dozens of time, materialized only once.  I've never seen any patent documentation to this day, though he has made claims to such from the beginning of our relationship two years ago.  He claims international patent protection through the PTC.  A patent search comes up null.

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In the Fall of 2004, having received a healthy infusion of funds, Mike was forging ahead, claiming to be ready shortly to publicly display his motor on German Television.  We were able to burry the hatchet of our past schism that resulted from my publishing the report on this present page, and re-established a positive rapport as well as a tentative business relationship, in which I was once again spearheading the gathering of a team to manufacture and market his magnet motor in North America.

As before, one delay compounded upon another, and the same pattern from the past was repeated.  No patent information, no skeptic-proof video, no working device for us to come see (though there was a brief window around November when he said that there was one), ever the story that he has just one more little change to make on the device, or waiting for some new component to arrive.  That hardly constitutes manufacture readiness.

Finally, early in 2005, when he told me about the "zero-point spark plug" and other new devices, I leveled frankly with him and told him he had a serious credibility problem.  How was he to expect people to take him serious on new claims when he has not yet delivered on the past claims?

I have not heard from him since that time, as of April 23, 2005.

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Re: How does Perendev's motor work?
« Reply #21 on: December 23, 2008, 06:01:16 AM »
Give it up.....
Crawl  back home.
you had a good run..

times  up.

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Re: How does Perendev's motor work?
« Reply #21 on: December 23, 2008, 06:01:16 AM »
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Offline jimhitt

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Re: How does Perendev's motor work?
« Reply #22 on: December 28, 2008, 04:37:00 AM »
I know this must be a scam or impossible.  No fossil fuels are being used. The law of conservation of energy is being flagrantly violated.  Excused me for being so obtuse as to question conventional "wisdom?".  Undoubtedly you consumate skeptics are genius personified.  But I perceive this is worth investigating.  I'm such  a sucker falling for these scam artists.  Watch the video.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3940623695814013717

Offline TinselKoala

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Re: How does Perendev's motor work?
« Reply #23 on: December 28, 2008, 05:26:32 AM »
You're kidding, right?

How many times does the SMOT have to be invented?
Does the maker of this video really believe he is onto something new? That he has come up with a new and unique configuration of SMOT magnets?

Yep, all he (or anyone) has to do, to make a perpetual motion free energy machine, is to get a damn SMOT to close the loop. That's all. It's so simple.

And impossible, but we won't let a little thing like that stop us from buying a whole lot more magnets, will we.

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Re: How does Perendev's motor work?
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Offline AbbaRue

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Re: How does Perendev's motor work?
« Reply #24 on: December 28, 2008, 06:03:23 AM »
I believe a better use of magnets would be to make a frictionless bearing.
A flywheel mounted into such a bearing could keep spinning for a very long time.

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Re: How does Perendev's motor work?
« Reply #25 on: December 28, 2008, 07:38:37 AM »
You're kidding, right?

Yep, all he (or anyone) has to do, to make a perpetual motion free energy machine, is to get a damn SMOT to close the loop. That's all. It's so simple.

And impossible, but we won't let a little thing like that stop us from buying a whole lot more magnets, will we.

OK explain it to me hero.  Why is it impossible?  I'm so dense I just can't get it.  I just blew up hydrogen in physics I should have paid more attention.  Could you finish my lessons for me.  Enlighten me.

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Re: How does Perendev's motor work?
« Reply #26 on: December 28, 2008, 11:52:59 AM »
I believe a better use of magnets would be to make a frictionless bearing.
A flywheel mounted into such a bearing could keep spinning for a very long time.

Frictionless bearings has nothing to do with OU. If you manage to make an OU device, frictionless bearings are not essential to make that device to work. And what is the point with a spinning flywheel if it cannot run forever, or cannot accelerate, WITH load such as friction, a generator etc.?

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Re: How does Perendev's motor work?
« Reply #27 on: December 28, 2008, 12:04:15 PM »
OK explain it to me hero.  Why is it impossible?  I'm so dense I just can't get it.  I just blew up hydrogen in physics I should have paid more attention.  Could you finish my lessons for me.  Enlighten me.
Because magnetism is conservative. Energy is temporary. A given enery is just a temporary phenomenon - lasting for as long as there is a given potential difference equalizing over a given time.

Magnets can do work, but only if there is added a given potential difference over a given time in advance. From somewhere that energy must be taken. Electricity is a way to force magnets to do work.

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Offline jimhitt

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Re: How does Perendev's motor work?
« Reply #28 on: December 28, 2008, 01:46:09 PM »
Because magnetism is conservative. Energy is temporary. A given enery is just a temporary phenomenon - lasting for as long as there is a given potential difference equalizing over a given time.

Magnets can do work, but only if there is added a given potential difference over a given time in advance. From somewhere that energy must be taken. Electricity is a way to force magnets to do work.

Ok so what about magnetic heaters made by Mueller, Adams, and Reed?  Reed's patent states that for roughly 70000 btu's input ie. 20.5 kilowatts he obtained 270,000 btu's heat output.  I made one and am making a second and they appear to produce 3 - 4 times more heat than possible by the necessary electrical input. 

So suspend conventional wisdom for a bit.  I also made a straight line Perendev type device using stator magents that were magnetized with poles on the sides instead of the ends.  It worked.  Everyone keeps trying to make a Perendev magnet motor based on repulsion and they run down.  The Howard Johnson motor was based on attraction and repulsion.  I'm not sure if he ever created a working model, but he did create straight line models.  It was granted a patent.  If the Perendev is also based upon attraction and repulsion, it becomes much more intuitively obvious why it would work and not run down

Look at the links under more info on this youtube video.   It may be BS but if you close your mind you are worse than us gullible fools. http://pesn.com/2006/02/10/9600233_Calloway_Magnet_Motor_Open_Source/perendev_calloway_variant_labeled_NScorrected_full.gif   
If you watch the first animation with the idea of the stator magnets having poles on the sides instead of the ends, it should get clearer for you.   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txYnzn1tGnA

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Re: How does Perendev's motor work?
« Reply #29 on: December 28, 2008, 03:03:16 PM »
Because magnetism is conservative. Energy is temporary. A given enery is just a temporary phenomenon - lasting for as long as there is a given potential difference equalizing over a given time.

Magnets can do work, but only if there is added a given potential difference over a given time in advance. From somewhere that energy must be taken. Electricity is a way to force magnets to do work.

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"lasting for as long as there is a given potential difference equalizing over a given time."

Then one needs to make sure that there is always a potential difference in advance in their design of a motor.  External electrical power input is an easy way that can help do this as we are all familiar with, or previous work which is accomplished from magnets can perform this function when used in a properly designed motor. 

 

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