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Offline synchro1

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Re: Possible overunity generator device
« Reply #15 on: November 01, 2010, 11:04:41 PM »
@Magnetman12003,

I am attempting to replicate your circuit to spin my 2" tube with my bifilar Spiral Knot. My 12 volt relay coil measures 9/100's of an Ohm, yet I noticed an 80 Ohm figure next to the relay in the schematic? Is this the impedence of your 12 volt relay coil? Why would mine measure nearly a thousand times less? Is it possible you're reading off the wrong scale?

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« Reply #16 on: November 01, 2010, 11:13:50 PM »
The 80 ohms is the measured resistance of the 12 volt relay commonly used in automobiles. Its very inexpensive and is a small relay.

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« Reply #17 on: November 01, 2010, 11:24:17 PM »
 I busted the coil free from the connections, and use the soldered wire ends alone to measure from. Do you measure through the contacts? Are you comming off the blades, or from the naked coil ends? I may just have the wrong kind of relay. What's more likley is that it's the same coil from a relay that has a differnt rating factor. I'll just start over with a new one. Thanks!
« Last Edit: November 02, 2010, 02:58:10 AM by synchro1 »

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Re: Possible overunity generator device
« Reply #18 on: November 02, 2010, 02:54:03 AM »
I just soldered onto the  external blades coming out of the square plastic relay housing that led directly to the coil inside. Not a coil contact point but both blades connecting to the coil DIRECTLY. A inexpensive 43 ohm 12 volt relay coil will work also.

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Re: Possible overunity generator device
« Reply #19 on: November 02, 2010, 03:02:10 AM »
This info will save you much time also: Find a 3/16 or 6mm diameter Acetal/Delrin plastic rod and use it as your magnet axle. Check Ebay.  It is made out of slippery low friction plastic. The magnet is very sensitive to the material it spins on. I have tried over 100 combinations including bearings but found this as the best and inexpensive so far.  Dont use shaft lubricants as they will gum up and slow the magnet spin.

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« Reply #20 on: November 02, 2010, 05:55:44 PM »
I'm currently running the 2" on two 1/4" O.D. 1/8 I.D 1" long nylon bushings side to side with a 1/16" brass axel. It might help to use a 1/16" plastic rod inside the nylon sleeves to reduce contact surface. I tried tiny 1/4" precision ceramic boca bearings, but just smashed one in a collision with my 2" sphere. I kicked them apart like working out of a tight boot. The plastic rod sounds great. Thanks alot for the tip. The 2" magnet clocked out around 8k with the expensive ceramic bearings, and down around 3k with the nylon skid sleeves. The plastic rod sounds like it should measure in well, somewhere in between. The walled ceramic is $70. Good luck on your power measurements. I have achieved close to unity, or greater, spinning the giant 2" neo with a secondary wrap and feed back loop. This was coupled with a strong Bemf Bedini charge. I believe strongly that together, the combined output has to be >1.

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Re: Possible overunity generator device
« Reply #21 on: December 03, 2010, 05:24:33 AM »
Hi synchro, how is it all going with you ?


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Re: Possible overunity generator device
« Reply #22 on: December 04, 2010, 02:54:49 AM »
@DeepCut,

Good! Thnaks. Have you seen any of my Spiral Knot videos?


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« Reply #23 on: December 04, 2010, 03:00:50 AM »
Hi synchro,

i'm just watching the 'spiral trials' video, can you explain to me what is going on please, it's not clear from the video.


Thanks,

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« Reply #24 on: December 04, 2010, 03:29:34 AM »
This loopback to source coupling gets this setup to act like a Flywheel Battery.
« Last Edit: December 04, 2010, 06:04:13 AM by synchro1 »

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Re: Possible overunity generator device
« Reply #25 on: December 04, 2010, 07:49:06 PM »
Hello all, it's been almost two years since my last post...
Been busy fighting the powers that be but alas, all in vain. It's a rat race and the rats are ahead.

Been following the bedini threads and this is as good a place as any to post my observations.
I'm currently running a three driver coil setup in series and three generator coils also in series.
First observation is that whoever decided to put a bridge rectifier from the collector of the drive transitor must have an unearthly bridge since, every time I attempt to add that component it seriously drags down my rpm. I mean SERIOUSLY. Also, when rectifying the output of my generator portion and feeding back to the source, same thing.
What I have found is this. In both cases, if you impedance match with a capacitor in series to one leg of the bridge, it doesn't slow you down. I guess what I'm saying/asking is this:
Has anyone tried this arrangement? Right now I'm running my motor at < or = to 1. Since all monitoring of my source battery indicates no loss, down to 1/100th of a volt.
Just my  2 cents worth for now...
So far, it works well with the generator portion but I haven't been able to find the correct match for the charging ckt. portion.
Thoughts?

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Re: Possible overunity generator device
« Reply #26 on: December 04, 2010, 09:11:38 PM »
@Cassman1969,

That's called Lenz Drag. Adding output coils just divides the available current. You need to reposition the coils.  You'll need to find out how far away the three need to be to allow for suficient R.P.M. Once that's established, you will notice that you can disconnect two of the output coils and reposition the sole remaining one in closer enough to equal the Lenz drag of the three. At that point only one output coil is needed to generate the same power as three combined.

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« Reply #27 on: December 04, 2010, 09:12:55 PM »
@Cassman196,

Thats called Lenz Drag. Adding output coils just divides the available current. You need to reposition the coils.  You'll need to find out how far away the three need to be to allow for suficient R.P.M. Once that's established, you will notice that you can disconnect two of the output coils and reposition the sole remaining one in closer enough to equal the Lenz drag of the three. At that point only one output coil is needed to generate the same power as three combined.

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Re: Possible overunity generator device
« Reply #28 on: December 04, 2010, 09:22:45 PM »
Thank you Synchro1,

Yeah I've been all arround the positioning aspect and, as always, balance point is < than 1. Damn law!
That's why the question and the age old dilema of balance. Just thought I'd throw a different approach out there to see if others had tried.
Best I can do right now is ten minutes run time on my 10000MF cap. If that's of interest I'll be happy to give you the specs.
Still, to be able to cleanly capture the BEMF off that darn tranny and not drag it down would possibly get me over the hump. May go back to the reeds for that...
 

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Re: Possible overunity generator device
« Reply #29 on: December 04, 2010, 09:37:17 PM »
@Cassman169,

I have two loops back to back, one trigger power, the other output. I position the neo sphere between the two with instruments. These coupled spiral toroid spheres run at a maximum efficency R.P.M.

Unlike a rotor between two coils, the sphere can spin from the outsides as well.

 

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