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Offline magnetman12003

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Possible overunity generator device
« on: October 24, 2010, 11:45:08 PM »
Hi All,
This schematic is a Basic Bedini/Davro circuit modified by me that will spin a 2 inch diameter 2 inch thick Diametric ring magnet at super speeds without failing. The spinning magnets flux field is harvested by the Bedini coil and its hi frequency AC output is fed into a full wave bridge rectifier.

----The input power to spin the magnet is almost 1 watt.----

My intent is to generate more power out than what  is used to spin the magnet.  THIS CIRCUIT DOES WORK WITHOUT A HITCH.  440 DC volts is the output as soon as the magnet spins. I am concentrating on the current presently.  Any ideas on what lamps to use that 440 volts DC can power without burning them out?  Remember that voltage will drop when a load is applyed.  Current is presently unknown  I am going to post a video soon on the You Tube.

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Re: Possible overunity generator device
« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2010, 02:04:57 AM »
Hi magnetman,  good to see you are still at it.  I don't know if you have access to European bulbs but 2 of those in series would be a good match I believe.  Or 4 x 120 volt bulbs in series.  You might get away with 3 x 120 volt bulbs also but it would probably depend on how much current you are getting.  If I recall you other setup had high volts but fairly low current output.  You could even try with just one 120 volt bulb to see if there's enough current to do anything as a very low current will not likely burn out even one bulb if it's low enough.  I've put around 50,000 volts across a 120 bulb but at microamps with not damage to the filament.  Nice plasma effects though :)

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Re: Possible overunity generator device
« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2010, 10:21:58 PM »
Here are the  actual components I used in the output rectifier circuit.

I found a source of 120 volt 1 watt bulbs and  hope to lite 3 or 4 of them as soon as I get their bases wired up in series.  If all lamps light up I will have 4 watts glowing. All 3 or 4 lamps would be powered by a 1 watt input source.  This might be wishfull thinking but I am trying it to see.

The 1 inch diameter Diametric ring magnet does not have enough flux power to lite the lamps. If you plan to construct this circuit you will have to first crack your wallet $100 for the 2 inch magnet. More cash for the other components.
 
« Last Edit: October 28, 2010, 02:25:33 AM by magnetman12003 »

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Re: Possible overunity generator device
« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2010, 10:21:58 PM »
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Offline FatChance!!!

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Re: Possible overunity generator device
« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2010, 09:07:30 AM »
Just my two cents.....

Any circuit like this is an "Impossible overunity generator device"
What you show is a regular transformation circuit of electric power.
There no "extra energy" being generated from such a design.

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Re: Possible overunity generator device
« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2010, 10:22:09 PM »
Hi,
Here are my thoughts on this:  Mind you - no sacred laws are broken.

The Bedini circuit sends a hi frequency AC low power signal to the Bedini coil. NOT SHOWN is the huge 2 inch diameter Diametric ring magnet that is mounted over the Bedini coil. Its attracted to and repells itself away from the WEAKER Bedini coils magnetic field generated by the circuit signal

THAT HUGE MAGNET IS DOING MOST ALL THE WORK. The heavy magnet spin is super fast and if it breaks loose for any reason all hell will follow.

I can see the magnet does the work by metering the INPUT current to the Bedini circuit before, during, and after the magnet spin.  If the Bedini coil itself was push/pulling the heavy magnet spin I would have a lot of current draw. Very little input current draw is noticed.

Having said this what happens next is the  fast spinning magnets extremely powerful flux field cuts through the Bedini coil inducing hi AC frequency/voltage as its back EMF. I would love to see how the stronger magnet induced back EMF partners with the weaker Bedini coils EMF. Guess I will have to save up for a scope.

All AC EMF is directed into a rectifier circuit which converts to DC which can be managed easily.

Its the weak triggering the strong into action.

The Bedini coil has a weaker magnetic field untill it harvests the powerfull flux field off the magnet.

« Last Edit: October 29, 2010, 02:52:29 AM by magnetman12003 »

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Offline FatChance!!!

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Re: Possible overunity generator device
« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2010, 10:32:47 PM »
Good luck.
Please update us with your findings....

Offline magnetman12003

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Re: Possible overunity generator device
« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2010, 03:26:36 AM »
Here it is. My video showing all the above in action.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8vK1UlpeMo

Tom

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« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2010, 03:26:36 AM »
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Offline penno64

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Re: Possible overunity generator device
« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2010, 03:46:22 AM »
Great work Tom.

Regards, Penno

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Re: Possible overunity generator device
« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2010, 09:13:11 AM »
Very nice and clean setup. However your power output calculation is a bit lacking. It's based on human interpretation which can vary a lot. I believe I have suggested in the past to get a cheap DSO for your experiments. This way you can easily acquire the needed data and integrate it yourself to get a highly accurate power figure.

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Re: Possible overunity generator device
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Offline energia9

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Re: Possible overunity generator device
« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2010, 11:27:04 AM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KIwQuTJk9I
all you need to do is cancel back emf

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Re: Possible overunity generator device
« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2010, 01:57:23 PM »
Hi Tom,

Very good setup!
In agreement with broli but using a much cheaper way, I would like you to check the total DC voltage across the 4 series lamps when your setup runs as shown in the video. I indicated with red (positive pole) and blue (negative pole) arrows in the picture where the DC voltmeter (a digital handheld DMM or any other DC voltmeter) is to  be connected, basically across the electrolytic capacitors at the diode bridge output. (at least a loaded voltage of 300-400V DC is expected here so be very careful with the measurement)

Also, I indicated an output current measurement possibility in another picture with a green cross where you can unclip the crocodyle from the lamp wire and insert an ammeter there to learn about the load current the lamps consume.

You can do these measurements separately, one after the other, the bottom line is do the measurements while the setup is running like in the video.
This way by learning the output DC voltage  and current, you can have a much better estimation on the actual output power the lamps take, ok?

And assuming the 12V DC output from your power supply and the  .125A current is the real input power your running setup needs, you can have a more faithful comparison between input and output powers.

Thanks,  Gyula

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Offline magnetman12003

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Re: Possible overunity generator device
« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2010, 04:39:10 AM »
Hi,

I just purchased a Digital watt meter on Ebay that plugs into a 120 volt wall socket.  Waiting for delivery now.  Plan to power the entire setup by plugging it into the watt meter and taking a reading "WITHOUT THE  4 LAMPS IN THE CIRCUIT".  The setup can power up like that also without the lamps

Then I will take a reading WITH  the lamps lit connected into the powered circuit.  Subtracting the smaller from the larger reading will give me a true "OUTPUT" wattage reading for the four lit lamps within 2 percent accuracy.

The "INPUT" power is 12 volts DC at .125 amps or 1.5 Watts.
 Thats a given metered many times.

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Re: Possible overunity generator device
« Reply #12 on: November 01, 2010, 08:19:45 AM »
all you need to do is cancel back emf

How do you cancel a law of physics?

Back EMF can be rerouted or "burnt away" by a parallel diode but it can never be cancelled.
It's always present and there is nothing mankind can do to prohibit the properties of magnetic induction.
Anyone saying different is ignorant and does not know what he's talking about.

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Re: Possible overunity generator device
« Reply #13 on: November 01, 2010, 12:47:34 PM »
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all you need to do is cancel back emf

No need of canceling back emf. It is so easy to recover it! And we have not even to fight the laws of physics, we can do it in peace.



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Re: Possible overunity generator device
« Reply #14 on: November 01, 2010, 06:56:31 PM »
Hey I doubt you meant it like that, but that sounds exactly like what Bedini's impulse technology is all about : )

Julian

 

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