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Title: Simple(?) and cheap OU-test
Post by: lancaIV on May 03, 2006, 03:36:50 AM
-Recherche-Einsteiger :
 DE  10320109
 WO 2004100349
 Dragan Kovac
"Seriell connection of resistors(f.e.200W lamps/bulbs"


p.s.:there is a concept from 1932/1934,L.Mandelstam & N. Papalexi
      (topic:rapid replication, the link is inside DE3006520-Florian Popescu
       page 4,5,6 in german language)

      Inspiration cause Ferdinand Braun?s  crystal-work ?
Title: Re: Simple(?) and cheap OU-test
Post by: MT on May 03, 2006, 07:15:04 PM
... could you please post web link? Have problem to find more about this.

Title: Re: Simple(?) and cheap OU-test
Post by: pg46 on May 04, 2006, 09:22:07 AM
Hi -

 so, here is the quote from line 1, chapter 2
"Henry Moray demonstrated that energy was available by its actions on a resistive load, such as a flat-iron or a space heater, and by lighting lights"

 Sorry, my own lights are not going on ???    So, what is the simple test?
Title: Re: Simple(?) and cheap OU-test
Post by: MT on May 05, 2006, 10:41:05 AM
Dont see OU here. If I understood claim correctly the more lamps (200W, 220V) you connect in serie the more lamps you can connect afterwards without changing current and power. He measures whole watts without fraction part and amperes only on 2 decimal places. Ignoring those can indeed seems like there power and current does not change. I'm suprised to see such patents.

Title: Re: Simple(?) and cheap OU-test
Post by: pese on May 05, 2006, 07:32:35 PM
in this circuit is an big bug in.

10 lamps need in seriell need 2300 volt for full ligning

if any lamp wil becomes only 23 volt,

only darkred glue ist to shown.

never 200 or 100w light !

Inly smal light and mor than 80% heat frpmthe power consumtion.

Title: Re: Simple(?) and cheap OU-test
Post by: pg46 on May 05, 2006, 07:44:55 PM
was just wondering then -
 if one ignored the brightness or dimness of the lamps for a moment - will one have enough power to run say an alternator at the end of the line of the lamps in series?
 In other words, does the more lamps that one connects in series give you more available current at the end of the line?
Title: Re: Simple(?) and cheap OU-test
Post by: pese on May 05, 2006, 10:20:48 PM
Shur , this is an "bug" it this items will give "ligt"
its no but if 50 lampt (from 230 vols (each blub becomes only less the 5 VOLT ,
wil no give any lght !!
only 50 time some watts in infrared heat.

Its only an bank of resistors with unlinear ressistance , of the wolfra wire
because the condutivigie is different is it?s colf , red or full lightning.
(se this metal table book , it must be in.

even if vou take only 2 lams 200watt each , and  each with 115 volts , the both together will not bring
the light of  1 single 200watt blup at 230 volt.

try it with "lkuxmeter"  or calculate them .

its to simpel , to find any "esotheric power in this idea".
electronic , calculating that is describe , no see that
any additional blub will degerase the lightning voltage
of each blub , and degerase the lightning effects up to zero.
its not so  good to power watts in , and not ligt come out.
(only heat) with NO Overunity !!!!

Title: Re: Simple(?) and cheap OU-test
Post by: gyulasun on May 06, 2006, 08:34:48 AM
Hi Lanca and all,

Fortunately there is the English version (I cannot speak German) of the two patents you referred to (FR701188,page 3 =AT127608,Seite2,Zeile33) and  this patent is  GB368249 and the text you mentioned (HF-conditioning) says:

"In Figs. 3 and 4 two arrangements of connecting the units consisting of induction coils and luminous letters or other representations in series are shown. The connection of the units in series has the advantage over the previously described connection in parallel that a greater number of units can be connected to a source of high frequency current of given strength under the retention of the same lighting power of the luminous tubes supplied therefrom when the connection is in series than when the connection is in parallel."

Though this text clearly claims the advantage of the series connection of the given setup, and this setup includes (glass)tubes filled with rare gas and embraced with Tesla coils and all this MAY INHERENTLY include the possibility of overunity in the special arrangement shown in Figs. 3 and 4,   the Kovac' patent do not mention anything that may inherently be connected with any 'overunity parts or arrangements'.     

You included Dragan Kovac's phone number in another post here:,922.0.html  and I would like to encourage anyone German speaking member here to making a telephone call to Dragan Kovac to inquire on the "know-how" if it is possible. It is obvious that Kovac did not include the 'secret' in his lamp arrangement and seemingly patented the series connection of nonlinear resistors (incandescent lamps) which would be ridiculous in itself!