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Author Topic: Relative Permittivity of Water  (Read 233986 times)

Torana

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Re: Relative Permittivity of Water
« Reply #240 on: December 28, 2012, 09:24:51 PM »
Get rid of your ego problems first;
 
The amount of idiots involved in Stan Meyer replication astounds me.

:)

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Re: Relative Permittivity of Water
« Reply #241 on: December 28, 2012, 09:28:07 PM »
I've already ordered 9XB circuits

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« Reply #242 on: December 28, 2012, 09:33:55 PM »
they are full of buffoons including "h2opower" who is a racist american that thinks canadians are stupid, and that americans are smart. In fact quite the opposite: the southern jesus loving rednecks in the U.S.A. are stupid.
 

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« Reply #243 on: December 28, 2012, 09:37:05 PM »

.. James Randi would love to be here! He'd probably commit suicide

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« Reply #244 on: December 28, 2012, 09:45:39 PM »
     Re: TonyWoodside 8XA Raise 1 litre water 15C To 90C in one Seccond ?     « Reply #8 on: May 30, 2012, 08:12:31 AM »       LOL LOL LOL


Seriously, in one second? That sounds like baloney to me.

(......and then buy 1 !!  :)  )

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« Reply #245 on: February 14, 2013, 11:04:05 PM »
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1; Ive seen that video before
2; use  Z = sq root of L/C    .... then use (because Z=X) ...  f = X / 2 pi L .... it illiminates the reso f and Xc formulas , shouldnt take more than a min or so,its the quickest . I already posted it ages ago

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« Reply #246 on: February 23, 2013, 09:57:45 PM »
j
**theoretically** the velocity of an electron in AC field = net zero (reso)
search velocity of e in a DC field in a conductor  I/nAq , you might be surprised.
 
flyback is NOT a step up transformer , it has NO transformer action , it has NO winding ratio, its a POWER INDUCTOR , it completely discharges + has idle time + is 1/2 wave.
 
*a transformer is incapable of that.
 
fbt only behaves as a transformer if wired as a mazzilli ZVS push pull non gapped type set up...THEN it has a winding ratio and lower volts out
 
i already posted links ages ago....

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Re: Relative Permittivity of Water
« Reply #247 on: March 01, 2013, 10:30:35 PM »
H,
no where have I tried to stop any one or rip into anyone. havent manipulated anyone into spending their money .
canufi ripped into me , not once did i rip into him, simply because he had nothing going for him. i said he was boring and a waste of space, other than that he seems to be friendly .
 
 
  (http://www.overunity.com/Themes/default/images/useroff.gif) canufi      (http://www.overunity.com/Themes/default/images/post/xx.gif)  Re: Relative Permittivity of Water  « Reply #195 on: June 02, 2012, 11:26:31 PM »      Quote from: Torana on September 02, 2011, 03:23:30 AM <blockquote>A choke with a wiper arm is mythical other than an air core crystal radio set ,which is normal.
Theres screw slug cores or on a large scale , Ferranti style moving coils.

**Its a Unicorn coil = BOGUS!
</blockquote> 
You think a variable inductor is bogus? Really?

Quote from wikipedia:

"A variable inductor can be constructed by making one of the terminals of the device a sliding spring contact that can move along the surface of the coil, increasing or decreasing the number of turns of the coil included in the circuit. An alternative construction method is to use a moveable magnetic core, which can be slid in or out of the coil. Moving the core farther into the coil increases the permeability, increasing the inductance. Many inductors used in radio applications (usually less than 100 MHz) use adjustable cores in order to tune such inductors to their desired value, since manufacturing processes have certain tolerances (inaccuracy).  "

   
he quoted wiki...I posted the same thing in 32 words , clearly he couldnt see it nor google ferranti to save himself....I mean save himself!
 
again = " a choke coil with a wiper arm is mythical"
 
the universal symbol for a vari L = a diagonal arrow across a coil
 
who has used a slide coil and HV?  then again who has used a choke of 11600 ohms?
 
 
 
 

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Re: Relative Permittivity of Water
« Reply #248 on: March 01, 2013, 10:34:34 PM »
  #199 on: June 11, 2012, 10:42:12 PM »   Quote
   Quote from: Torana on June 03, 2012, 03:45:32 AM <blockquote>Stans "circuits" are for entertainment value only.
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Please look up Tony Woodside and Gary Woodside and Irondmax on youtube who have successfully replicated the distilled water and tap water cells which break apart water with the 9XB and 8XA circuits.

 = thats what canufi asked....thats what I did .....then he rips into me..nice one!
 

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Re: Relative Permittivity of Water
« Reply #249 on: March 01, 2013, 10:45:29 PM »
 
  Quote from: Torana on June 03, 2012, 03:45:32 AM <blockquote>If a walmart kettle is 99% eff then what is a water R eff ?
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What the hell is a water R eff?  Water resistor efficiency?


...Bingo! ...hes never heard of a water resistor, shoulda googled , they been in use for 50 - 100 years, and Im not talking about 99 % eff kettles....
 
 

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Re: Relative Permittivity of Water
« Reply #250 on: March 01, 2013, 10:58:51 PM »

It is full of many mistakes and Stan was also a Jesus freak which I am not afraid to bash him for.

Why would I waste time writing down all the mistakes here for you to see when you have an extremely condescending attitude? Why would I want to speak to someone like you who is condescending and obnoxious?

What will you gain from it if I provide you with my mistake information I've found?
 
 
 
...... If he found so many mistakes then wouldnt he agree with the post? but no wait hes discovered more mistakes ....and THEN hes saving his pennys for a 9XB.
 
he must ride the fence raw with that line of thinking.
Im not surprised at all if hes ripped into you on a diff site.
 
as james randi .....Ive never heard of him before or since , he might be famous in someones villiage but not MYN  :-*   

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« Reply #251 on: March 01, 2013, 11:09:30 PM »
So what the hell... since when permittivity is ohmic resistance?

Water permitivity is not the same as water ohmic resistance...

Minde

this is what started it ...google "78.54 ohms" and it will show the affect stan meyers has had , which is not a good one.
http://nz.bing.com/search?q=78.54+ohms&src=IE-SearchBox&FORM=IE8SRC
 
never in my life have I mixed permittivity with ohmic resistance, the numbers I used were from alex petty, naudin and steve (?)  , in no way could I manipulate their figures , plain and simple.
 
the thread name "Relative Permittivity of Water" .....soon enuff some one was going to post 78.54 OHMS = completely wrong and misguided info spread by stan meyers .
 
It is BOGUS!! 
 

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« Reply #252 on: March 09, 2013, 11:36:16 PM »
Whatever you say man... I see no point to argue with you here.
Appereantly many of your "dictionaries" are wrong. Because dielectric is NOT the same as ohmic insulator.. altho all insulators have dielectric values but thats not the same as ohmic value.
It is the way it is and no dictionaries can change that.
I just wish you kept your personal theories to yourself.. so many others would not be misguided by reading your posts..


No dictionary any where in the world states dielectric being measured in ohms or being an ohmic insulator or having resistive measurement.
therefore  NONE of my "dictionaries" are wrong
 
I havent put fwd any personal theories so by rights NO ONE should be misguided by reading my posts if any thing they should wake up.
 
Its humorous how people get bent out of shape.
 
"dielectric is NOT the same as ohmic insulator.. " ......YET stan meyers pushed that very idea and misguided thousands of people ......and YET no one in the SM flock sayeth a thingeth.  ???
 
Its only fitting to redirect the finger and crank it round to point square at stan meyers.
 
I didnt write the tech brief

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Re: Relative Permittivity of Water
« Reply #253 on: March 09, 2013, 11:51:33 PM »
Stan Meyers Tech Brief

7-3; "The established dielectric value of water (85) being 78.54 ohms"

7-4: " a resistive liquid (having an ohmic value of 78.54 ohms)

7-8;  "the dielectric property of water (being 78.54 ohms @ 25c )

a resistive liquid ?????   ohmic value??
 
.......cccrank  goes the finger!
 
canufi would put that down as a spelling mistake or microfiche or even human error.
the tech brief IS intentional deception, the standard key board does not have the OMEGA symbol, thats TYPE SETTING  NOT human error at all .
 
1 Omega = ohms
2 Resistive is spelt a whole lot diff from dielectric
 its intentional to use 1 or the other word , stan used both!
 
theres too much type set "human error" that its a human error to consider the tech brief of any value at all.
 
no one has ever designed ,developed,built and patented a circuit without knowing fundamental electrical theory and then been unable to explain how their circuit works whilst at the same time referring to SAMS mod dict of electronics (1984)
 
steve meyers also cant find the words to describe a circuit function, funny that

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Re: Relative Permittivity of Water
« Reply #254 on: March 17, 2013, 03:38:30 AM »
w,
those are trigger coils = self reso of the core. http://www.powerlabs.org/flybackdriver.htm
supposedly Horvath patent had a self reso transformer but the patent drawing is wired NOT to work , its totally stuffed circuit drawing.
 
horvath circ has UJT timer =predates 555 chip mfg.
 
flat FBT coils are the AC type = hard to find
tall FBT coils are DC out put type already reactified
BJT transistors run hot not many use them anymore